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Originally posted by mizzsandra00 mizzsandra00 wrote:

I see no one touched my question tho.


What was she going to do if she got the job?
 
come to think of it...she probably wouldn't get childcare until she finds a place. aren't childcare providers legally obligated to report situations like these? if she gets childcare and they find out she's homeless CPS would probably take the kids away. they'd probably be in the car for a while. i see your point.
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Originally posted by AmiliaCabral AmiliaCabral wrote:

Originally posted by mizzsandra00 mizzsandra00 wrote:

I see no one touched my question tho.


What was she going to do if she got the job?
 
come to think of it...she probably wouldn't get childcare until she finds a place. aren't childcare providers legally obligated to report situations like these? if she gets childcare and they find out she's homeless CPS would probably take the kids away. they'd probably be in the car for a while. i see your point.


Actually, homelessness in and of itself is not enough to remove kids. You have to be homeless and endangering or neglecting your children in some way. If you're homeless but your kids still show up to school everyday and don't have any obvious medical or nutritional problems, your kids won't get taken.
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AZ provides child care for people in shelters.....

DES Child Care Services may be provided for the following eligible activities or needs:

  1. Participation in DES Jobs Program.
  2. Employment.
  3. Eligible education and training activities related to employment when working a minimum of 20 hours per week.
  4. High school, GED or remedial education classes for teen parents.
  5. Unable or unavailable to provide care for children due to a physical, mental, or emotional condition, participation in a drug treatment or rehabilitation program, or a court order community service program.
  6. Residency in a homeless or domestic violence shelter.
  7. Other needs as determined by Child Protective Services or foster care case plan.
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Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:


where do you live maysay? lol

1k-2k a week? damn

I live in the suburbs (in the DC metro area) and a $400 week day care isn't in the hood lol


Los Angeles.

Child care, like everything else, is expensive if you want it to be good. And don't get started on your special daycares/preschools that do language immersion and college prep.
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Originally posted by maysay1 maysay1 wrote:

Originally posted by Merin Merin wrote:

Michelle Obama was in a bind. A prospective employer wanted to interview her for an executive position, but she was home on maternity leave and still breast-feeding her newborn second daughter. "I didn't have a babysitter," Obama recalls now, with an unapologetic shrug. "So I went in there with the stroller and did the interview. And Sasha slept through it, thank goodness."




Thank you.

This is actually a good example about how sometimes we're in situations of our own making. Michelle Obama did not lack any resources...you and I both know she easily could have found someone to watch her child. She probably didn't want anyone else to watch her young baby but her mother or Barack, but she was not anywhere near Shanesha's situation. Instead she chose to forgo all the other options available to her and take her baby to an interview.

I get that Shanesha was desperate, but she was still wrong. And sometimes our choices are limited because of the decisions we ourselves have made. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging that.



No we don't know that she could have easily just found someone. Someone in her socioeconomic situation could have easily had a precarious childcare situation with no time to find someone suitable to watch her baby. The same can be said for the woman in the story.  I will never suggest leaving your child in a car unattended is the right decision however she had a bunch of bad options and made the one she felt most comfortable with. Now that money has been raised for her as well and people trying to find her job leads she will hopefully never have to make such a decision again. 
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Originally posted by mizzsandra00 mizzsandra00 wrote:

Originally posted by kfoxx1998 kfoxx1998 wrote:

Originally posted by mizzsandra00 mizzsandra00 wrote:

I see no one touched my question tho.
What was she going to do if she got the job?


Sandy would you be surprised to find out that you qualify for more programs if you have a job than you do without one?  You wouldn't believe that would you?  I decided to answer anywayLOL
You don't have to be employed to receive child care assistance in AZ......look at that.....LOL


You have to have an address to get assistance everywhere and you have to show income to get a place to live.  I'm not sure if you really think its this easy.  We don't know how she got to that point or how long she was at that point but on the day of the interview she had no job, no childcare and no place to live.  If she had skipped the interview this would be a whole other thread. 

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Originally posted by maysay1 maysay1 wrote:

Originally posted by AmiliaCabral AmiliaCabral wrote:

Originally posted by mizzsandra00 mizzsandra00 wrote:

I see no one touched my question tho.


What was she going to do if she got the job?
 
come to think of it...she probably wouldn't get childcare until she finds a place. aren't childcare providers legally obligated to report situations like these? if she gets childcare and they find out she's homeless CPS would probably take the kids away. they'd probably be in the car for a while. i see your point.


Actually, homelessness in and of itself is not enough to remove kids. You have to be homeless and endangering or neglecting your children in some way. If you're homeless but your kids still show up to school everyday and don't have any obvious medical or nutritional problems, your kids won't get taken.
 
oh. previous point stands then, she'd get childcare lol
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Originally posted by maysay1 maysay1 wrote:


I get that Shanesha was desperate, but she was still wrong. And sometimes our choices are limited because of the decisions we ourselves have made. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging that.


Agreed.  This is why these debates go on forever.  We don't listen to each other.  Out of the multitudes of people posting in this topic damn near every almost zero of them said she shouldn't have left the kids in the car. 
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Originally posted by Merin Merin wrote:

Originally posted by maysay1 maysay1 wrote:

Originally posted by Merin Merin wrote:

Michelle Obama was in a bind. A prospective employer wanted to interview her for an executive position, but she was home on maternity leave and still breast-feeding her newborn second daughter. "I didn't have a babysitter," Obama recalls now, with an unapologetic shrug. "So I went in there with the stroller and did the interview. And Sasha slept through it, thank goodness."




Thank you.

This is actually a good example about how sometimes we're in situations of our own making. Michelle Obama did not lack any resources...you and I both know she easily could have found someone to watch her child. She probably didn't want anyone else to watch her young baby but her mother or Barack, but she was not anywhere near Shanesha's situation. Instead she chose to forgo all the other options available to her and take her baby to an interview.

I get that Shanesha was desperate, but she was still wrong. And sometimes our choices are limited because of the decisions we ourselves have made. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging that.



No we don't know that she could have easily just found someone. Someone in her socioeconomic situation could have easily had a precarious childcare situation with no time to find someone suitable to watch her baby. The same can be said for the woman in the story.  I will never suggest leaving your child in a car unattended is the right decision however she had a bunch of bad options and made the one she felt most comfortable with. Now that money has been raised for her as well and people trying to find her job leads she will hopefully never have to make such a decision again. 


Michelle's friends may have been at work, Momma Robinson might have been out of town visiting her nephew, Barack might have been out of town as well....not everything is of somebodies own doing.  Sometimes circumstances just arise in an inconvenient way.   I've had someone whose socialeconomic situation is quite fine tell me about their difficulty finding childcare and I offer my services bc I know that is hard.
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