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joileprincess
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Posted: Jan 22 2013 at 9:39pm |
PeacefulOne wrote:
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Afro, the RN incorporates that knowledge into her assessment and monitoring of the patient. The CNA is not responsible for assessment, more so assistance and data collection. The HIV status can be useful for the interpretation of the data but not relevant for assistance with ADL's which is a large part of what the CNA is responsible for.
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Joile you're so classy.  |
Lol, that's my I just did a paper on something similar answer.
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afrokock
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Posted: Jan 22 2013 at 9:41pm |
joileprincess wrote:
Afro, the RN incorporates that knowledge into her assessment and monitoring of the patient. The CNA is not responsible for assessment, more so assistance and data collection. The HIV status can be useful for the interpretation of the data but not relevant for assistance with ADL's which is a large part of what the CNA is responsible for.
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yes, thats a fair point `and probably the only reason why a nurse would know over a cna but risk of exposure remains the same and likely to be a lil bit elevated for the cna's
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Posted: Jan 22 2013 at 9:41pm |
joileprincess wrote:
PeacefulOne wrote:
joileprincess wrote:
Afro, the RN incorporates that knowledge into her assessment and monitoring of the patient. The CNA is not responsible for assessment, more so assistance and data collection. The HIV status can be useful for the interpretation of the data but not relevant for assistance with ADL's which is a large part of what the CNA is responsible for.
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Joile you're so classy.  |
Lol, that's my I just did a paper on something similar answer.
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Posted: Jan 22 2013 at 9:42pm |
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joileprincess wrote:
Afro, the RN incorporates that knowledge into her assessment and monitoring of the patient. The CNA is not responsible for assessment, more so assistance and data collection. The HIV status can be useful for the interpretation of the data but not relevant for assistance with ADL's which is a large part of what the CNA is responsible for.
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I know right? I feel like I'm reading one of my nursing school books lol
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Posted: Jan 22 2013 at 9:45pm |
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I side eye some of the other CNA's who give me report on my patients at the start of my shift. They will tell me, "Oooh he has HIV so u know I just gown up and do this and that." This is not the 80's. We know how you can get HIV now. There is no reason to put these people in isolation and put on all this protective gear unless somethig warrants it. Ex. They're coughing everywhere? Put on a mask. Puking everywhere. Put on a gown. And all times wear your gloves.
And @ afro they just don't make beds. In hospitals, they help monitor the patient through frequent vital signs and just being the nurse's aide(cleaning, hygiene stuff, take blood sugars, simple wound dressings, in the er they let them draw blood I heard,etc. Sometimes a good aide can either make or break your shift as a nurse.
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FOR REALS???? I wish our hospital was like that. Personal care, sure, vitals, hardly ever, but none of the rest where I work, lawd I WISH!! And no disrespect, I used to be a cna, but at a nursing home. |
I floated to the step down icu once and the nurses said all I need to do is hygiene care and take their temperatures. I couldn't believe it. I was so used to running around on my med-surg floor like a chicken without a head. I think I wanna work ICU when I graduate because med-surg burns me out sometimes and I'm not even a nurse yet! No wonder new grads run off so fast lol.
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PeacefulOne
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Posted: Jan 22 2013 at 9:51pm |
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no one has said 'this is why a cna shouldnt know'
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It's not that they shouldn't know, it's just that they don't always have to know. There are times when they definately should know, like if the pt is combative, biting and scratching, or actively bleeding.
In the op case, the entire office didn't need to know, and there was not reason for all the office to be reading her chart, if that's what happened. But that is probably why she will get a settlement.
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Posted: Jan 22 2013 at 9:53pm |
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afrokock wrote:
no one has said 'this is why a cna shouldnt know'
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It's not that they shouldn't know, it's just that they don't always have to know. There are times when they definately should know, like if the pt is combative, biting and scratching, or actively bleeding.
In the op case, the entire office didn't need to know, and there was not reason for all the office to be reading her chart, if that's what happened. But that is probably why she will get a settlement. |
i can live with this nurse and cna/hcas are always so combative with each other, regardless of which country or hosp you go to and its always the same 'i dont trust that lot'
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Posted: Jan 22 2013 at 10:02pm |
idk, some RNs here may disagree.
Years ago, I had a foster kid who had hiv, and they didnt tell me when they placed her.
I looked up the meds, and found out what they were for. I was quite pissed!
But I was told that it was a violation of some kind to tell me. . . I was not happy, but I woud not have refused her if I knew, just been prepared. I had a 2 year old for gods sake! Needless to say, I was extra extra careful around her, and thankfully she was also very cautious. Poor thing. So there are always exceptions.
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Posted: Jan 22 2013 at 10:03pm |
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He was right in testing her. She was sick already and they needed to know why.
I need to read this thread tomorrow as nurses/med professionals are talking in here
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Posted: Jan 22 2013 at 10:10pm |
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Bitch tricked herself having unprotected sex or receiving infected bodily fluids and refusing to check her sexual health. FOH
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