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Originally posted by f8dagrate f8dagrate wrote:

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I think this story is a few weeks old. But yea, this bish is basic as all hell



explain please. She knows her rights, she seems to be the opposite of that actually.
Original article I've read... I felt for her until her parting statements. But that's just me *shrug*

By James Fanelli, DNAinfo Reporter/Producer

NEW YORK CITY — A Harlem woman who didn't want to know whether she had contracted HIV is suing her doctor for breaking the news that she tested positive for the deadly virus.

The 31-year-old woman claims Dr. Pavel Yutsis violated state law by testing her without her consent and then delivering the devastating results — even though the revelation likely benefited her health.

"I was tricked. I never signed any paper," the woman, who filed her lawsuit as "Jane Doe" to protect her privacy, told DNAinfo.com last week. "It was a slap in the face."

Jane Doe became a patient of Yutsis during the summer of 2011, according to the lawsuit filed last month in Brooklyn Supreme Court. She had been recovering from recent gastric-bypass surgery when a nutritionist recommended she go to Yutsis's Sheepshead Bay clinic, Lifex Medical Care, for treatment of a Vitamin B12 deficiency.

After a number of visits, the woman still showed a shortage of white blood cells and low levels of B12, which helps in the proper formation of red blood cells. Yutsis suggested she take an HIV test, but she declined, explaining she was only focused on healing from her surgery, the lawsuit says.

"I wasn't really concerned about anything else," she told DNAinfo.com New York, noting she already had a primary care physician.

On Sept. 9, 2011, a Yutsis assistant told Jane Doe that she needed to draw more blood for testing. She assumed it was to see if the treatment had worked and "was unaware that her blood was going to be tested for HIV," the lawsuit says.

"She was never asked to sign a form consenting to the test and was not given counseling to prepare her for the administration of an HIV test," the lawsuit says.

On Sept. 22, during another visit, Jane Doe claims Yutsis told her she tested positive for HIV, the virus that leads to AIDS. The results — and how they were collected — dumbfounded her.

"My body got numb. I was not good after that," the woman said. "I was tricked with something I had no clue about."

As she left Yutsis' office, she also learned the results were not kept confidential, the lawsuit says. A group of employees had allegedly been chatting with her file open. One of them allegedly stopped the woman and tried to hearten her by noting that sometimes another HIV test shows the initial results were wrong.

New York's public health law requires the written consent of a patient before administering an HIV test. A doctor or health-care provider must also offer counseling, explaining to the patient, among other things, how HIV is contracted and how testing can be done anonymously. In revealing the results, the health-care provider must offer more counseling and referrals for emotional support and medical treatment, according to the law.

The law also requires the HIV-infected patient's name be placed on a state Health Department registry. When possible, partners of the infected person are notified, but the infected person's name is not disclosed.

Yutsis did not return a call or email for comment.

Jane Doe's lawyer, Daniel Pepitone, said he understands the health benefit of testing for the infection, but said Yutsis violated his client's right to choose.

"These are personal choices that the law has specifically carved out to make the specific decision," Pepitone said. "We're all aware of the value of finding out, but she has her own reasons. We need to protect her rights under the law."

Dr. Charles Camosy, an ethicist at Fordham University, said Jane Doe had every right to reject the test, noting Western medicine's shift away from "physician paternalism," in which the mindset used to be that the doctor knows best. Now the emphasis is on informed consent, with patients deciding what's best for themselves.

"There are considerations that are important for a patient to weigh that have nothing to do with medicine," Camosy said. He noted that in the Jane Doe case, it's possible "the stress in getting the test would be worse than not knowing."

"Maybe she'll have a nervous breakdown and not be able to function," he added. "That's not something the physician is prepared for."

Camosy acknowledged that the possible transmission of HIV to a partner complicates the situation, but said society doesn't mandate testing.

"If there is no law or regulation that the people already decided," he said, "then I still think the physician has no business doing it."

Jane Doe said she has since gone to another clinic, where she consented to an HIV test that was administered correctly.

The test also showed she is HIV positive.

When asked whether Yutsis's disclosure benefited her health, she simply said it wasn't his place to decide.

"That was a low blow," she said. "That was a sucker punch."

The woman was also vague about her current health.

"I'm working on things," she said, noting her gastric-bypass surgery has helped her lose a substantial amount of weight.

"I'm slim and trim and sexy," she said. "If I turn sideways, I'll be marked absent."Sleepy

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Originally posted by niecy niecy wrote:

Originally posted by f8dagrate f8dagrate wrote:

Originally posted by niecy niecy wrote:

Originally posted by f8dagrate f8dagrate wrote:

Originally posted by niecy niecy wrote:

Stern Smile I would be glad I was told but that's just me. If I were her I would be trying to find whoever gave it to me and suing them if they knew instead of suing the doctor.

I can see if she was suing as far as her information not being kept confidential but not for actually being told she had it.   < she did not need to know this, she did not sign a form wanting to be disclosed this info.



she is right the docotor did not need to disclose this fact. This woman is very smart, I wonder how she got it. I feel sorry for her tbh.

More like its something she probably didn't WANT to know = we don't know that. Even if she didn't sign a paper IMO  Not trying to be rude, but your opinion does not matter in this equation. The only thing that matters is if the doctor and other staff followed the right protocols.I think that is something one would need to know that way she doesn't spread it. I'm sure if she hadn't been told she wouldn't have thought to get tested to see if she had it anytime soon.

And thats why it's my OPINION. Nobody is saying it's a fact.


that's why i said your opionon " yes it is good that you have one" doesn't matter  in this equation. How do you know that she doesn't know she had AIDS already? How do we know that if  she has been living with AIDs for years ; and to be reminded that after going through a procedure to physically become healthy wasn't relivieng the hurt. We don't know any of this, so to judge on things we don't know would be faulty. What we do know is that the doctor was wrong, in not giving her a form for her to sign in consent of the test.
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Originally posted by blaquefoxx blaquefoxx wrote:

Originally posted by f8dagrate f8dagrate wrote:

Originally posted by blaquefoxx blaquefoxx wrote:

I think this story is a few weeks old. But yea, this bish is basic as all hell



explain please. She knows her rights, she seems to be the opposite of that actually.
Original article I've read... I felt for her until her parting statements. But that's just me *shrug*

By James Fanelli, DNAinfo Reporter/Producer

NEW YORK CITY — A Harlem woman who didn't want to know whether she had contracted HIV is suing her doctor for breaking the news that she tested positive for the deadly virus.

The 31-year-old woman claims Dr. Pavel Yutsis violated state law by testing her without her consent and then delivering the devastating results — even though the revelation likely benefited her health.

"I was tricked. I never signed any paper," the woman, who filed her lawsuit as "Jane Doe" to protect her privacy, told DNAinfo.com last week. "It was a slap in the face."

Jane Doe became a patient of Yutsis during the summer of 2011, according to the lawsuit filed last month in Brooklyn Supreme Court. She had been recovering from recent gastric-bypass surgery when a nutritionist recommended she go to Yutsis's Sheepshead Bay clinic, Lifex Medical Care, for treatment of a Vitamin B12 deficiency.

After a number of visits, the woman still showed a shortage of white blood cells and low levels of B12, which helps in the proper formation of red blood cells. Yutsis suggested she take an HIV test, but she declined, explaining she was only focused on healing from her surgery, the lawsuit says.

"I wasn't really concerned about anything else," she told DNAinfo.com New York, noting she already had a primary care physician.

On Sept. 9, 2011, a Yutsis assistant told Jane Doe that she needed to draw more blood for testing. She assumed it was to see if the treatment had worked and "was unaware that her blood was going to be tested for HIV," the lawsuit says.

"She was never asked to sign a form consenting to the test and was not given counseling to prepare her for the administration of an HIV test," the lawsuit says.

On Sept. 22, during another visit, Jane Doe claims Yutsis told her she tested positive for HIV, the virus that leads to AIDS. The results — and how they were collected — dumbfounded her.

"My body got numb. I was not good after that," the woman said. "I was tricked with something I had no clue about."

As she left Yutsis' office, she also learned the results were not kept confidential, the lawsuit says. A group of employees had allegedly been chatting with her file open. One of them allegedly stopped the woman and tried to hearten her by noting that sometimes another HIV test shows the initial results were wrong.

New York's public health law requires the written consent of a patient before administering an HIV test. A doctor or health-care provider must also offer counseling, explaining to the patient, among other things, how HIV is contracted and how testing can be done anonymously. In revealing the results, the health-care provider must offer more counseling and referrals for emotional support and medical treatment, according to the law.

The law also requires the HIV-infected patient's name be placed on a state Health Department registry. When possible, partners of the infected person are notified, but the infected person's name is not disclosed.

Yutsis did not return a call or email for comment.

Jane Doe's lawyer, Daniel Pepitone, said he understands the health benefit of testing for the infection, but said Yutsis violated his client's right to choose.

"These are personal choices that the law has specifically carved out to make the specific decision," Pepitone said. "We're all aware of the value of finding out, but she has her own reasons. We need to protect her rights under the law."

Dr. Charles Camosy, an ethicist at Fordham University, said Jane Doe had every right to reject the test, noting Western medicine's shift away from "physician paternalism," in which the mindset used to be that the doctor knows best. Now the emphasis is on informed consent, with patients deciding what's best for themselves.

"There are considerations that are important for a patient to weigh that have nothing to do with medicine," Camosy said. He noted that in the Jane Doe case, it's possible "the stress in getting the test would be worse than not knowing."

"Maybe she'll have a nervous breakdown and not be able to function," he added. "That's not something the physician is prepared for."

Camosy acknowledged that the possible transmission of HIV to a partner complicates the situation, but said society doesn't mandate testing.

"If there is no law or regulation that the people already decided," he said, "then I still think the physician has no business doing it."

Jane Doe said she has since gone to another clinic, where she consented to an HIV test that was administered correctly.

The test also showed she is HIV positive.

When asked whether Yutsis's disclosure benefited her health, she simply said it wasn't his place to decide.

"That was a low blow," she said. "That was a sucker punch."

The woman was also vague about her current health.

"I'm working on things," she said, noting her gastric-bypass surgery has helped her lose a substantial amount of weight.

"I'm slim and trim and sexy," she said. "If I turn sideways, I'll be marked absent."Sleepy



thank you blaque.. she know she is not right lol.. but she can and probably will still win her case LOL
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Originally posted by f8dagrate f8dagrate wrote:

Originally posted by niecy niecy wrote:

Originally posted by f8dagrate f8dagrate wrote:

Originally posted by niecy niecy wrote:

Originally posted by f8dagrate f8dagrate wrote:

Originally posted by niecy niecy wrote:

Stern Smile I would be glad I was told but that's just me. If I were her I would be trying to find whoever gave it to me and suing them if they knew instead of suing the doctor.

I can see if she was suing as far as her information not being kept confidential but not for actually being told she had it.   < she did not need to know this, she did not sign a form wanting to be disclosed this info.



she is right the docotor did not need to disclose this fact. This woman is very smart, I wonder how she got it. I feel sorry for her tbh.

More like its something she probably didn't WANT to know = we don't know that. Even if she didn't sign a paper IMO  Not trying to be rude, but your opinion does not matter in this equation. The only thing that matters is if the doctor and other staff followed the right protocols.I think that is something one would need to know that way she doesn't spread it. I'm sure if she hadn't been told she wouldn't have thought to get tested to see if she had it anytime soon.

And thats why it's my OPINION. Nobody is saying it's a fact.


that's why i said your opionon " yes it is good that you have one" doesn't matter  in this equation. How do you know that she doesn't know she had AIDS already? How do we know that if  she has been living with AIDs for years ; and to be reminded that after going through a procedure to physically become healthy wasn't relivieng the hurt. We don't know any of this, so to judge on things we don't know would be faulty. What we do know is that the doctor was wrong, in not giving her a form for her to sign in consent of the test.

We dont know if she knew or not but it comes off as if she didn't know already especially if the article blaque just posted said she went and got another test afterwards. I never said the doctor wasn't wrong but it still doesn't change my opinion. 
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Originally posted by f8dagrate f8dagrate wrote:

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Jane Doe claims her test results were not kept confidential. She said her file was left open near where “a group of employees” were chatting.

As she left the doctor’s office, she said she was stopped by one of the employees who tried to console her.
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well she does have a great case against them if this is true ^^ they violated HIPPA .. man I wish these test were mandatory not optionalSleepy


does hippa affect employees if they can be directly or indirectly responsible for/administer your care?



yes and no, depends who they are and what they do with your info. Like a cna or an rn both are responisble for ones care. But if a cna looks into her file she/he violated hippa.

i dont think thats correct f8.. 
i know that a medical assistant and caregiver are allowed to know the patients info.. 


I'm 100% sure girl that what I said is true, believe me If a cna not a caregiver, because there is a difference in the two. If a cna goes into a patients file to read it, they have violated Hippa. And medical ass. mostly deal with pt records. Idk why you brought them up anywayLOL
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Originally posted by niecy niecy wrote:

Originally posted by f8dagrate f8dagrate wrote:

Originally posted by niecy niecy wrote:

Originally posted by f8dagrate f8dagrate wrote:

Originally posted by niecy niecy wrote:

Originally posted by f8dagrate f8dagrate wrote:

Originally posted by niecy niecy wrote:

Stern Smile I would be glad I was told but that's just me. If I were her I would be trying to find whoever gave it to me and suing them if they knew instead of suing the doctor.

I can see if she was suing as far as her information not being kept confidential but not for actually being told she had it.   < she did not need to know this, she did not sign a form wanting to be disclosed this info.



she is right the docotor did not need to disclose this fact. This woman is very smart, I wonder how she got it. I feel sorry for her tbh.

More like its something she probably didn't WANT to know = we don't know that. Even if she didn't sign a paper IMO  Not trying to be rude, but your opinion does not matter in this equation. The only thing that matters is if the doctor and other staff followed the right protocols.I think that is something one would need to know that way she doesn't spread it. I'm sure if she hadn't been told she wouldn't have thought to get tested to see if she had it anytime soon.

And thats why it's my OPINION. Nobody is saying it's a fact.


that's why i said your opionon " yes it is good that you have one" doesn't matter  in this equation. How do you know that she doesn't know she had AIDS already? How do we know that if  she has been living with AIDs for years ; and to be reminded that after going through a procedure to physically become healthy wasn't relivieng the hurt. We don't know any of this, so to judge on things we don't know would be faulty. What we do know is that the doctor was wrong, in not giving her a form for her to sign in consent of the test.

We dont know if she knew or not but it comes off as if she didn't know already especially if the article blaque just posted said she went and got another test afterwards. I never said the doctor wasn't wrong but it still doesn't change my opinion. 

no it  doesn't LOL but my point was already proven already, thx blaque and she will win this case.. I say more power to her LOL
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To ME it does but whatever. Like I said that's my opinion Ermm
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Originally posted by f8dagrate f8dagrate wrote:

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i dont think thats correct f8.. 
i know that a medical assistant and caregiver are allowed to know the patients info.. 


I'm 100% sure girl that what I said is true, believe me If a cna not a caregiver, because there is a difference in the two. If a cna goes into a patients file to read it, they have violated Hippa. And medical ass. mostly deal with pt records. Idk why you brought them up anywayLOL

i brought them up because those are the ones that i know about for a fact because i have experience with those.. 

i am not positive about cna but a caregiver and cna are similar and id think that if a caregiver can know the patients info the cna can too. 

as far as medical assistant i was more so referring to a clinical, not admin. 
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She need to sue that nicca...
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She need to sue that nicca...
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