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Originally posted by Prazol60 Prazol60 wrote:

Originally posted by khivey khivey wrote:

Nas found a way to do it. He gets airtime...There has to be a strategic, yet very creative way to go about educating through music. 



Nas has a lot of uneducated stuff in his music. He tries to be deep but anybody that has read a book sees he is wrong at times. I would not rely on none of these people to educate. That is for parents and schools to do. That view of rappers educating should have been dead.

He is always talking about something...he has a message in a lot of his songs...sometimes he uses book education in his music, but at least he is talking about something a lot of the time. 

Right now, it just seems like this new generation idolizes music stars so much, it is sad, but they have "power" and music could have been used as a vehicle to educate...most of these rappers have ghost writers anyways, so it would be perfect to have their lyrics geared towards educating and sending positive messages to the people. However, that would not happen because they like to keep our kids dumb and reciting bubble gum jargon Ouch 
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Yes I do know my generation had some sh* for music, but they still told stories, even if they were explicit and inappropriate, they told real stories...and it was entertaining..it just seems like a lot of artists today just brag and play on words and have catchy hooks...oh well. I guess there were people who felt the same way about the music from my generation. 
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true.  i think that back in the day....it was more balanced.  u had your fun "do what u like" and "I go to work" along with "rebirth of slick" and "fight the power".  I'm not a hip hop professional.  I'm just going off what I remember hearing daily on the radio.
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Originally posted by newdiva1 newdiva1 wrote:

true.  i think that back in the day....it was more balanced.  u had your fun "do what u like" and "I go to work" along with "rebirth of slick" and "fight the power".  I'm not a hip hop professional.  I'm just going off what I remember hearing daily on the radio.


You're absolutely right.

Too late to go in depth but the difference between the golden ages and now is balance.
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I think if we look at the bigger picture there is a total un-educating of America going on. You have tons being poured into military and less into the Department of Education. I believe that and the Department of Wildlife or whatever ya'll have get the least amount of money. So, you have a population of uneducated. They don't want to learn or if they do then they want it in tiny bits. This is why you see those pop-eduction slideshows, big pictures with little depth articles. I see people on FB posting those science meme's that are really don't educational. Yes, we have people out there trying but who is really listening?

Some of the most popular tv shows are light talk, reality and sitcoms. In another thread I think it was GKiss that pointed out that in the 70's you had those Norman Lear shows that had depth. All around that is missing in America.

I may be totally off base but as an outsider looking in this is what I see. This is what is exported to us. TLC here shows Honey Booboo, some cake and tattoo stuff and Fashion Police. Discovery is almost always about restoring some cars and pawn shops. Even our National Geographic has Ice Road Truckers and Worlds Worst Roads. All exported from the US.


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Im not a hip hop head either. Im curious how you guys classify these people. real hip hop or not? and why? I don't think I understand the definition of real hip hop, I just started getting into it myself.
Drake
Kendrick Lamar
J Cole
Kanye
Wale
Jay Z


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drake is a real Brotha, no sarcasm.



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Concrete I would classify all of them as real hip hop... Except Drake... he kind of flip flops but he makes good solid music... The others have a higher percentage of real music I think,  but I still love Drake and think his music will transcend.
 
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Originally posted by Random Thoughts Random Thoughts wrote:

Originally posted by newdiva1 newdiva1 wrote:

true.  i think that back in the day....it was more balanced.  u had your fun "do what u like" and "I go to work" along with "rebirth of slick" and "fight the power".  I'm not a hip hop professional.  I'm just going off what I remember hearing daily on the radio.


You're absolutely right.

Too late to go in depth but the difference between the golden ages and now is balance.


Exactly.  Hip hop has always been a very diverse genre but has lost much of its diversity with everyone basically chasing the same spot.  Feels like there are no longer specific lanes for each to shine. 
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