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Wow

http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0048546


From the study...

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Relative to White Americans, Black Americans experience higher rates of diseases, disability and premature death [1], [2]. Disparities in healthcare contribute to these health disparities. Black patients are more likely to receive lower-quality healthcare and are subject to less desirable procedures. For instance, Black patients are over three times more likely than White patients to have limbs amputated as a result of diabetes [3]. Moreover, Black patients are systematically undertreated for pain [4][6]. They are less likely than Whites to receive pain medication and, when they do, they receive less [7], [8]. Numerous explanations have been proposed, ranging from assumptions about Black patients’ inability to pay for healthcare to racial prejudice [6], [9]. These explanations generally imply that Black patients’ pain is recognized but not treated. Another explanation, however, is that Black patients pain is not recognized in the first place. The present work begins to examine this possibility; it provides evidence that people–including medical personnel–assume a priori that Black people feel less pain than do White people.

Consistent with this thesis, a study of physician-patient interactions has shown that physicians underestimate Black patients’ pain more than White patients’ pain [10]. Because this study was not an experiment, however, it is not clear whether this bias was the result of patient race, physician characteristics, and/or characteristics of the patient-physician interaction. Social psychological research provides relevant but inconclusive experimental evidence for our thesis. Work on stereotyping and prejudice has shown that Blacks, Black men in particular, are stereotyped as being dangerous and physically tough–qualities that might make them seem impervious to pain [11][14]. Work on dehumanization has shown that Black men are infra-humanized and that the infra-humanization of Black men is associated with the condoning of police brutality against Black men [15]. These findings suggest that people do not care about harm inflicted upon a Black victim and/or that they do not recognize the extent to which a Black victim might be injured by such harm. Finally, work on the “intergroup empathy gap” has shown that Whites often fail to “feel” the pain of outgroup members, including Black people [16], [17]. Studies using fMRI technology have shown that for White participants, a network of neural regions involved in processing one’s own pain (“the pain matrix”) responds similarly to viewing harm inflicted on racial ingroup but not racial outgroup members [18], [19]. Again, these findings suggest that people do not care about Blacks’ pain and/or do not recognize how much pain Blacks might feel. In the present work, we tested the latter possibility. We provide experimental evidence that people, including medical personnel, assume a priori that Blacks feel less pain than do Whites. We also provide archival evidence to illustrate the potential breadth of this phenomenon.


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Well... anyone could have guessed that just reading Youtube comments

Hell, comments regarding movies being made about "Black history" are litered with 'don't give a f*ck' attitudes pertaining to the pain of Blacks


White people have to axe out any sympathy they have for Blacks in order to continue treating us like garbage and enjoy their privilege
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Originally posted by Alias_Avi Alias_Avi wrote:

Wow

http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0048546


From the study...

Introduction

Relative to White Americans, Black Americans experience higher rates of diseases, disability and premature death [1], [2]. Disparities in healthcare contribute to these health disparities. Black patients are more likely to receive lower-quality healthcare and are subject to less desirable procedures. For instance, Black patients are over three times more likely than White patients to have limbs amputated as a result of diabetes [3]. Moreover, Black patients are systematically undertreated for pain [4][6]. They are less likely than Whites to receive pain medication and, when they do, they receive less [7], [8]. Numerous explanations have been proposed, ranging from assumptions about Black patients’ inability to pay for healthcare to racial prejudice [6], [9]. These explanations generally imply that Black patients’ pain is recognized but not treated. Another explanation, however, is that Black patients pain is not recognized in the first place. The present work begins to examine this possibility; it provides evidence that people–including medical personnel–assume a priori that Black people feel less pain than do White people.

Consistent with this thesis, a study of physician-patient interactions has shown that physicians underestimate Black patients’ pain more than White patients’ pain [10]. Because this study was not an experiment, however, it is not clear whether this bias was the result of patient race, physician characteristics, and/or characteristics of the patient-physician interaction. Social psychological research provides relevant but inconclusive experimental evidence for our thesis. Work on stereotyping and prejudice has shown that Blacks, Black men in particular, are stereotyped as being dangerous and physically tough–qualities that might make them seem impervious to pain [11][14]. Work on dehumanization has shown that Black men are infra-humanized and that the infra-humanization of Black men is associated with the condoning of police brutality against Black men [15]. These findings suggest that people do not care about harm inflicted upon a Black victim and/or that they do not recognize the extent to which a Black victim might be injured by such harm. Finally, work on the “intergroup empathy gap” has shown that Whites often fail to “feel” the pain of outgroup members, including Black people [16], [17]. Studies using fMRI technology have shown that for White participants, a network of neural regions involved in processing one’s own pain (“the pain matrix”) responds similarly to viewing harm inflicted on racial ingroup but not racial outgroup members [18], [19]. Again, these findings suggest that people do not care about Blacks’ pain and/or do not recognize how much pain Blacks might feel. In the present work, we tested the latter possibility. We provide experimental evidence that people, including medical personnel, assume a priori that Blacks feel less pain than do Whites. We also provide archival evidence to illustrate the potential breadth of this phenomenon.




Which is the reason why they think we're impervious to bullets.
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Originally posted by sugabanana sugabanana wrote:

Sad to say but this is how I raise my sons....
You're not alone suga (obviously) it's a culture. My mom was the same with me. She is nurturing, loving, whatever. She ain't got the time for whining though. We breed the strongest men and women, bar none. However, our hardness comes at such a price to ourselves and each other when we can not be vulnerable. And it's hard to do something different if, like myself totally, you feel it worked.
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I think that's what it is as well

Once you learn that crying will not grant you help then you harden... as many Blacks have
I'm sayin. From our own as well. Cause none of us (generally speaking) wanna hear that-- abusive relationships, mental health issues, health issues. You need to suck it up and fix your face.
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Originally posted by Az~Maverick Az~Maverick wrote:

I agree wholeheartedly!

Our people suffer from generational PTSD....no joke.
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I wouldn't be surprised if most people in this world have come to believe that Black people are suppose to have harder lives than everyone else
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Originally posted by nekamarie83 nekamarie83 wrote:

Originally posted by sugabanana sugabanana wrote:

Sad to say but this is how I raise my sons....
You're not alone suga (obviously) it's a culture. My mom was the same with me. She is nurturing, loving, whatever. She ain't got the time for whining though. We breed the strongest men and women, bar none. However, our hardness comes at such a price to ourselves and each other when we can not be vulnerable. And it's hard to do something different if, like myself totally, you feel it worked.
Originally posted by Alias_Avi Alias_Avi wrote:

I think that's what it is as well

Once you learn that crying will not grant you help then you harden... as many Blacks have
I'm sayin. From our own as well. Cause none of us (generally speaking) wanna hear that-- abusive relationships, mental health issues, health issues. You need to suck it up and fix your face.
 
This is me with my boys. I have to check myself at times and let them feel vulnerable or okay with crying(showing emotion)... in my gut I want to tell them to suck it up and fix yo face but I don't want them to have a balance not become hard.. so I pick and choose... it's hard for me..... the first thing that comes outta my mouth is "what are you crying for' or 'is alladat really worth xyz'...it's all so confusing...
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Originally posted by nekamarie83 nekamarie83 wrote:

Frankly, "we" think blacks feel less pain because we've been conditioned to not whine/cry/throw temper tantrums at the drop of a dime like white people have.

From being stored like legos in boats, to slavery, to medical experiments, to lynchings, to hoses and dogs, to police brutality-- we've learned that sympathy/help will not be coming, crying is a pointless waste of time, we're not seen as human.

It's been ingrained in us for centuries over generations. It is the reality that we know.
 
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I think I'm the only person that watched the video.
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This doesn't surprise me. When you view someone as other and different than you, you aren't even trying to relate to them. That makes it easy to set the divide and be nonchalant/fake nice.
 
This is why I look for Black doctors and dentists.
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