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Originally posted by kfoxx1998 kfoxx1998 wrote:

Originally posted by modelbusiness82 modelbusiness82 wrote:

Originally posted by TiffanyinTX TiffanyinTX wrote:

Just throwing this out there, does it have less to do with worshipping white people and more to do with what people's perception of healthy cultural ideals are?


I don't get the "worship white people" angle. If ALL black people really did "worship white people", then less black people would be dropping out of school, having unplanned pregnancies, joining gangs, etc.

This is a cultural mindset problem, plain & simple.


All things that came directly from white culture


I'm not one to defend white people as they have plenty of help in that department. But how is the white community telling you to have teen pregnancies and drop out of school? We're in a post Brown vs. The Board of Ed Topeka Kansas world. No one is literally barring you from entering a classroom based on skin color. You very well may live in a crap school district, but no one is literally stopping you from attempting to achieve an education. We're in a post slavery & post Loving vs. State of VA world as well, white people aren't forcing you to have sex with anyone anymore to create more slaves.

Not attacking you Kfoxx, but I get tired of this "it's ALWAYS someone else's fault for my shortcomings" mentality that many black people love to adopt. Again, a lack of personal accountability. Instead of saying "I chose to drop out so I could hang with my crew and do whatever else", it's easier to say someone else prevented you. 

My grandfather was a sharecropper from VA who never went past the 4th grade because he had to drop out to work the farm to help his family. He literally ran from VA in his teens because he was falsely accused of a crime and they would have lynched him. Yet he managed to put his children (one of them my mother) through college and created his own successful business during the civil rights era in NJ, in a sector normally controlled by white people (construction). If my grandfather could overcome SOME VERY REAL obstacles to do well for himself, anyone growing up outside of a Jim Crow era with more opportunities to obtain an education has NO EXCUSE to claim "someone's trying to hold me back".

It is the above reality in my family tree which pushes me to work hard. I have no excuses for failure because I for damn sure wasn't born behind the 8 ball in negative circumstances like my grandfather.

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in some schools teachers are stopping you from receiving an education if they choose not to teach
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Originally posted by Printer_Ink Printer_Ink wrote:

However the tax rate is extremely high. That's the trade off. You have high taxes but EVERYONE gets a decent roof over their head and food and healthcare etc.
 
 
i know there are varying levels of welfare...but at the end of the day, it's basically all the same, imo.
 
but yes...that above would never work here because of the sink or swim/pull yourself up by the bootstrap mentality...which is some bullshyt anway...but whatever...LOL
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Originally posted by ThoughtCouture ThoughtCouture wrote:

be that as it may, i find it odd that people seem to be stuck on welfafe as the root cause of the issue...
 

It's like Dr. Umar said, they treat the symptom and not the cause.
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My grandfather was raise in the deep south .. all sorts of horrible things were a part of his daily life but he worked as a Jainitor - cleaned toliets for a living, while my grandmpther took in laundry.
 
But hey they got my mother through school such that in the 1950'd she got a Masters degree in Math .. which later gained her entrance to NASA as a Programmer back in the 1970's. That my line ... but not once did I ever hear my family put down White people or pity their lot in life as black people - not once and I know my they were regularly harassed by the KKK.
 
They just picked themselves back up ... and worked like the dickens.
 
Black folks have got to stop blaming Whites for their spreading their legs to every guy, gang banging and ending up in prison.
 
Take personal responsibity. Period.  Otherwise it is hopeless.
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Originally posted by nitabug nitabug wrote:

Originally posted by ThoughtCouture ThoughtCouture wrote:

be that as it may, i find it odd that people seem to be stuck on welfafe as the root cause of the issue...
 

It's like Dr. Umar said, they treat the symptom and not the cause.
 
which is another reason i find the whole argument to be doing the most and the least all in one failed swoop....LOL 
 
lazy rational to explain why black folks are lazy/dusty...LOL
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how did we go from sharecropping to gang banging?


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if you knew better, you'd do better   

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Over here it seems you got high taxes with no guarantee of a decent roof over your head, food and fucced up healthcare.  I was just tellin' my mom about possibly relocating to Denmark or The Netherlands in 4 year or so.  America is run thru.
 
 
I just listened to a co-worker lament last night that she felt bad when her child sprained her ankle last week.   She said the child was complaining that her leg hurt but she didn't take her on and just told her to rest her leg.  When the pain wouldn't go away later that night she said it crossed her mind that if she takes her child to the emergency room and it's nothing she will have paid $500 or more and will be pissed.  But then she felt bad for thinking that because that is her child.  Before her co-pay was $20 and she woulda taken her that afternoon but now.....she says you think to yourself...can I afford to pay out of pocket for it.  We shouldn't have to make these kinds of choices.
 
by the by ....she ended up taking her child to emergence and she said the bill was more than $500.
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Originally posted by Omni Harmony Omni Harmony wrote:

if you knew better, you'd do better   


unfortunately the first is not the case :-(
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