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 I think the comment on the fact that the articles originated in America is probably the most true. Sort of like how most articles about 'growing your hair natural' mean growing your hair without relaxers rather than without hair dye or any chemicals at all. Because we're the ones who write them and to us this is what it means but to people with straight hair it means something completely different. So in America 'African-American' hair, makes sense but to us outside America it sounds a lot more strange because we can't describe our hair that way. I dunno if I'm making sense. I just woke up. Lol

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I just checked up the definition of kinky and yea it means curly. Funny, I always thought it just meant it has kinks. (This actually brings up another question: Why is one of the hair types described as kinky curly then? Isn't that just redundant? Oh well. Let's save that for another day) There was an Indian girl in my class once who had mostly straight hair but the front left side was really raggedy so she always slicked it back. One day she decided to get bangs. When she came to class they were always smooth on one side but the other side looked like she slept on it. So we asked her what was wrong with her hair and she said "my hair's just kinky in front" "Kinky?" "Yeah, look at all the kinks!" And indeed, her hair had really awkward bends in it although it was mostly straight. Not waves, actual bends and twists. She didn't like straightening her hair and said it didn't make much of a difference when she blow dried so she mostly just brushed it with Amla oil.

Edited by KunoichiNindroid - Jan 31 2013 at 3:08am
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Because African-American is just the politically correct way of saying black now regardless of origin.
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Agreed not all Africans have the same hair. Somalians and Ethiopians have almost curly(not the kinky curly) to straight hair. Cape Verde is another place in Africa they speak Portuguese and they have straight hair like Europeans.
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I think people should just say "Natural Textured Hair".
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I think you are splitting hairs (pardon the pun).Embarrassed You are from Zambia .. but obviously when people speak of African-American hair .. 9 times out of 10 whoever is speaking is speaking to an American audience. That's all.
I doubt that someone in Zambia is writing a book or whatever and is referring to 4 b/c hair as AA hair.
 
1) When people speaking of AA hair they are obviously generalizing that is is 4 b/c. This is because though most of us are mixed with whatever ... mainly our hair is 4 b.c hair. Sure there are plenty of AA people with 2b/c or 3b/c hair ... but they are 'generalizing' to make the topic understood.
 
2) Conversely when people talk aboit "White people's' hair .. well generally that means straight 1 b/c hair ... in general. But of course there are plenty of White people with curly hair in the range of 2 b/c or 3 b/c tough I think it would be rare to find a White person with 4 b/c hair.
 
I think the general 'THEY' out there are only speaking in generalities - no need to take offense and read into these things so much.
 
I think the term "Natural Textured Hair" is good ... but everyone is noy going to be thinking of this so much.
 
(Ethiopia - I've been all over and in the capital (Addis Ababa) people mainly have hair that's 3 b but in the south and in many other places in Ethiopia people have regular 4 b/c tightly coiled hair.
 
http://s.search.yahoo.com/search/s;_ylt=A0PDoQ2NowpRL0UASdeJzbkF?p=the+people+of+ethiopia&fr=yfp-t-701&ei=utf-8&n=30&x=wrt&y=Search - http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0PDoQ2NowpRL0UASdeJzbkF?p=the+people+of+ethiopia&fr=yfp-t-701&ei=utf-8&n=30&x=wrt&y=Search  )


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Originally posted by AnnaAari AnnaAari wrote:

The reason people say African American Hair, versus African Hair, is because most people who are considered colored or black are not completely (%100) African. They didn't come straight from Africa, they are mixed with something other than that. Take me for example, I am of an African background, but I am also Native American, Irish, and Asian. I have African 'American' hair because I am not %100 African. I had a friend who is %100 African, Zainab, she on the other hand does have African hair. See the difference. We aren't making things harder for ourselves, we are being factually correct. If you come from Africa you most likely have African Hair, but if you are in America(or anywhere else in the world) and are mixed with something other than African you have African American Hair.

In reality all it is is Afro-textured hair. I suggest if you want to look up African hair, you look up actual tribes and groups.

For example I searched (African Mandigo Hair) and came up with this link
http://digitalgallery.nypl.orgypldigital/dgkeysearchdetail.cfm?strucID=356717&ID=1112273&k=0&print=small - http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/dgkeysearchdetail.cfm?strucID=356717&imageID=1112273&k=0&print=small

And to answer your question "If I moved to America would my hair suddenly become African-American hair?" You be the judge, are you mixed- then yes. If your not mixed- then no.

I hope I helped.



Lol there is no difference most African americans have very little white or 'native american' in them. Why are americans so desperate to attach native american to their ancestry? There is no such thing as 100% African, my parents are from Ghana my mum has type 3 hair and my skin is the same colour as some mixed race people. Africans come in a variety of shades and have a variety of hair textures and types.
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Originally posted by KunoichiNindroid KunoichiNindroid wrote:

I just checked up the definition of kinky and yea it means curly. Funny, I always thought it just meant it has kinks. (This actually brings up another question: Why is one of the hair types described as kinky curly then? Isn't that just redundant? Oh well. Let's save that for another day) There was an Indian girl in my class once who had mostly straight hair but the front left side was really raggedy so she always slicked it back. One day she decided to get bangs. When she came to class they were always smooth on one side but the other side looked like she slept on it. So we asked her what was wrong with her hair and she said "my hair's just kinky in front" "Kinky?" "Yeah, look at all the kinks!" And indeed, her hair had really awkward bends in it although it was mostly straight. Not waves, actual bends and twists. She didn't like straightening her hair and said it didn't make much of a difference when she blow dried so she mostly just brushed it with Amla oil.

Kinky is tightly curled, so kinky curly probably refers to hair that is more kinky than curls (as is looser curls) because there is also the term curly kinky. 

Originally posted by Printer_Ink Printer_Ink wrote:

I think you are splitting hairs (pardon the pun).Embarrassed You are from Zambia .. but obviously when people speak of African-American hair .. 9 times out of 10 whoever is speaking is speaking to an American audience. That's all.
I doubt that someone in Zambia is writing a book or whatever and is referring to 4 b/c hair as AA hair.

Even if they are speaking to an American audience using the "African American" in front of Hair is describing the hair to be African American. Hair cannot be African American.

If you ask them if they wrote this article for only black Americans, I'm sure they would say no. They just wanted to be politically correct (don't understand how the term is politically correct though). People even call black people who are not American, African-American. Is it because they think they're American or because they're only thinking about America? No. It's because they want to be PC and that's the only PC term they know to describe black people.

I don't know who you were replying to, but obviously someone writing a book about 4 b/c hair isn't going to use the term AA. They do not use that term. According to your logic, they would call it Zambian hair. 
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I understand what you mean. I've never heard someone say african caribbean or african trinidadian, or african british... it's either black, african, or african american. and black is more politically incorrect. 

Originally posted by KunoichiNindroid KunoichiNindroid wrote:

I just checked up the definition of kinky and yea it means curly. Funny, I always thought it just meant it has kinks. (This actually brings up another question: Why is one of the hair types described as kinky curly then? Isn't that just redundant? Oh well. Let's save that for another day) There was an Indian girl in my class once who had mostly straight hair but the front left side was really raggedy so she always slicked it back. One day she decided to get bangs. When she came to class they were always smooth on one side but the other side looked like she slept on it. So we asked her what was wrong with her hair and she said "my hair's just kinky in front" "Kinky?" "Yeah, look at all the kinks!" And indeed, her hair had really awkward bends in it although it was mostly straight. Not waves, actual bends and twists. She didn't like straightening her hair and said it didn't make much of a difference when she blow dried so she mostly just brushed it with Amla oil.

well you weren't completely wrong. even though it doesn't show up in the dictionary, when you google kinky straight hair you see wigs and stuff with similar texture to relaxed hair or blow dries kinky hair. and kinky means tightly curly hair. when you stretch out the curl you get a z rather than an s like with curly hair. kinky curly hair means in between those two textures, like type 3c. 

Originally posted by sugabanana sugabanana wrote:

I think people should just say "Natural Textured Hair".

That's still hard to understand, because what about people with different hair types that have their hair in their natural texture?

Originally posted by MsLamie93 MsLamie93 wrote:

Originally posted by AnnaAari AnnaAari wrote:

 Take me for example, I am of an African background, but I am also Native American, Irish, and Asian. 

Lol there is no difference most African americans have very little white or 'native american' in them. Why are americans so desperate to attach native american to their ancestry? There is no such thing as 100% African, my parents are from Ghana my mum has type 3 hair and my skin is the same colour as some mixed race people. Africans come in a variety of shades and have a variety of hair textures and types.

umm... so even though she is part native, irish, and asian, she shouldn't claim it because she's mostly african? that doesn't make sense. most africans are mixed, but not mixed with the same things, there's no shame in telling others what your mixed with. it's not like she's denying her african heritage. but she would be denying her other heritage if she denied to say what she was mixed with. africans do come in a variety of shades and hair textures, but the ones brought to america and the islands came from the same area. tribes with very dark and kinky hair. 




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Yahya....By that logic...shouldnt everyone just call themselves mixed then? Instead of claiming a particular ethnicity? And really? They all came from the SAME tribe tho? Seriously?

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