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Originally posted by Marcelo22 Marcelo22 wrote:

so if u had a daughter and she said "i wanna be white, mommy can i wear your beyonce lacefront blonde wigs, dont forget the weave glue" u would be cool with that? I never met one parent who let their kid do anything they wanted to...just admit yall on this crusade to blur the gender lines cuz its something u believe in
Yeah, look at us in our pro-gay transgender agenda. LOL

First off all, what does this have to do with gender identity? If I said "omg id be in an outrage if my child wanted to be white omgomgomgomg" that wouldn't make what I am saying about gender identity any less true. This argument is fallacious...but I'll play along since you aren't the first to try and get me to respond to it. 

Second of all, "wanting to be" something different than what you are biologically is completely different than declaring that you ARE something different than what you are biologically. I can "want" to be Barney the dinosaur....that's different than me saying I AM Barney the dinosaur. I can "want to be" a millionaire, that's different than me saying I AM a millionaire. Get it? 

Transgenders are not saying "I wanna be" a different gender. They are saying I AM a different gender despite me biologically being a boy.

If a child "wants to be" something different than what they are, it generally means they view the alternative as better, prettier, smarter, more appealing...especially if they live in a country that says that being white is....prettier, smarter, and more appealing. White is NORMATIVE in America.

If a child says I AM something completely different than what they are biologically, and they know they have a penis...and they STILL feel like they are a girl, that is entirely different. Homosexuality/Transgenderism is NOT normative in America. There aint no reason for someone to WANT to be in that category. It's not like gay and transgender kids are treated to Debbie cakes and HiC. They get bullied for who they are. Badly. There is no incentive for a boy to "want to be" a girl unless they feel like they really ARE a girl. 

A black child "wanting to be white" is not comparable to a child saying "I have a penis but I AM a girl". 

...but I really don't know how to even discuss this with you, because I believe people are born gay and born transgenders. Gender ROLES are socially constructed race is socially constructed.... a person's genetic makeup and sex is biological. 

People who actually have gone through issues of racial identity (often mixed race people) and gender identity (transgenders) challenge the idea of race and gender all together. They feel that they should identify as they choose. Gender and racial identity is about how one identifies themselves. That's about as deep as the comparisons on THAT front get. 

...........but I still wouldn't give/send my child away in either situation. I would let them know I loved them and we would talk to a professional for help in both situations if severe. This is the part that seems to be glossed over. The point is whether you "agree" with how your child self-identifies or not...a good parent will love and support them regardless. 

"just admit yall on this crusade to blur the gender lines cuz its something u believe in"

Well duhhhhhhhhhhhh......
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Plenty of Black folk are yt folk born in the wrong body. Why look at Black republicans.
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What does it mean to be a girl? -Girls are not defined by wearing dress or even doing their hair and make-up?
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There is no such thing as a boy or girl because girls are boys and boys are girls and you are whatever you want to be and dress up as.
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Originally posted by naturesgift naturesgift wrote:

What does it mean to be a girl? -Girls are not defined by wearing dress or even doing their hair and make-up?

I think some transwomen overcompensate by trying to be ultra feminine...too much make up, dresses, and a lot of provocative clothing...usually terrible looking results.   
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Originally posted by Marcelo22 Marcelo22 wrote:

Originally posted by OhMyCurlz OhMyCurlz wrote:

Originally posted by purpulicious01 purpulicious01 wrote:

[QUOTE=OhMyCurlz]Wellllll.....h<span style="line-height: 1.4;">ow folks run their house is their business, but I hope no one would disown their flesh and blood due to their gender identity. </span>

Girls can show an interest in sports and they are considered a "tomboy"....a boy shows an interest in "girly things" and now it's a problem? Do some of yall have a problem with your little man crying, too? 

There are no longer any reputable psychiatrists that would co-sign that encouraging a child to identify (gender wise) as they feel to be a bad thing. Being a transgender is not a mental illness. These people just repress their feelings and a lot end up committing suicide. Sooooooo, if your son killing himself is worth it to you, just so you don't have to deal with your personal antiquated ideas of your child identifying as a girl, than that's something you will have to deal with. 

But yes, encouraging a child to repress their gender identity is bad parenting

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 <b style="line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small;">I understand that people are starting to adapt a gender neutral stance, but let's not be so quick to call those of us who do not jump on this gender neutral bandwagon bad parents or stupid/selfish</span><span style="font-size: small;">. </span>
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so if u had a daughter and she said "i wanna be white, mommy can i wear your beyonce lacefront blonde wigs, dont forget the weave glue" u would be cool with that?



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my issues is that children are still developing, as a child they are not sure about anything, if they feel one way one day and you reinforce the ideas by pushing your own labels then that's wrong! It works both ways... and there are no hard and fast rules about gender- and I don't believe children are able to identify their sexuality, gender roles without adult influence.
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Damn switching all gender roles up in here
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Originally posted by OhMyCurlz OhMyCurlz wrote:

[QUOTE=Marcelo22]

A black child "wanting to be white" is not comparable to a child saying "I have a penis but I AM a girl". 



This is such damn BS. 

So let's change the wording.

"I have black skin but I AM white" coming from an obviously black child with two black parents.


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