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    Posted: Oct 11 2013 at 10:33am
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Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ'

Biblical scholars will be appearing at the 'Covert Messiah' Conference at Conway Hall in London on the 19th of October to present this controversial discovery to the British public.

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Jesus Christ: completely constructed from other stories for an ancient Roman propaganda campaign?

Jesus Christ: completely constructed from other stories for an ancient Roman propaganda campaign?

[Jesus Christ] may be the only fictional character in literature whose entire life story can be traced to other sources.

London (PRWEB UK) 8 October 2013

American Biblical scholar Joseph Atwill will be appearing before the British public for the first time in London on the 19th of October to present a controversial new discovery: ancient confessions recently uncovered now prove, according to Atwill, that the New Testament was written by first-century Roman aristocrats and that they fabricated the entire story of Jesus Christ. His presentation will be part of a one-day symposium entitled "Covert Messiah" at Conway Hall in Holborn (full details can be found athttp://www.covertmessiah.com).

Although to many scholars his theory seems outlandish, and is sure to upset some believers, Atwill regards his evidence as conclusive and is confident its acceptance is only a matter of time. "I present my work with some ambivalence, as I do not want to directly cause Christians any harm," he acknowledges, "but this is important for our culture. Alert citizens need to know the truth about our past so we can understand how and why governments create false histories and false gods. They often do it to obtain a social order that is against the best interests of the common people."

Atwill asserts that Christianity did not really begin as a religion, but a sophisticated government project, a kind of propaganda exercise used to pacify the subjects of the Roman Empire. "Jewish sects in Palestine at the time, who were waiting for a prophesied warrior Messiah, were a constant source of violent insurrection during the first century," he explains. "When the Romans had exhausted conventional means of quashing rebellion, they switched to psychological warfare. They surmised that the way to stop the spread of zealous Jewish missionary activity was to create a competing belief system. That's when the 'peaceful' Messiah story was invented. Instead of inspiring warfare, this Messiah urged turn-the-other-cheek pacifism and encouraged Jews to 'give onto Caesar' and pay their taxes to Rome."

Was Jesus based on a real person from history? "The short answer is no," Atwill insists, "in fact he may be the only fictional character in literature whose entire life story can be traced to other sources. Once those sources are all laid bare, there's simply nothing left."

Atwill's most intriguing discovery came to him while he was studying "Wars of the Jews" by Josephus [the only surviving first-person historical account of first-century Judea] alongside the New Testament. "I started to notice a sequence of parallels between the two texts," he recounts. "Although it's been recognised by Christian scholars for centuries that the prophesies of Jesus appear to be fulfilled by what Josephus wrote about in the First Jewish-Roman war, I was seeing dozens more. What seems to have eluded many scholars is that the sequence of events and locations of Jesus ministry are more or less the same as the sequence of events and locations of the military campaign of [Emperor] Titus Flavius as described by Josephus. This is clear evidence of a deliberately constructed pattern. The biography of Jesus is actually constructed, tip to stern, on prior stories, but especially on the biography of a Roman Caesar."

How could this go unnoticed in the most scrutinised books of all time? "Many of the parallels are conceptual or poetic, so they aren't all immediately obvious. After all, the authors did not want the average believer to see what they were doing, but they did want the alert reader to see it. An educated Roman in the ruling class would probably have recognised the literary game being played." Atwill maintains he can demonstrate that "the Roman Caesars left us a kind of puzzle literature that was meant to be solved by future generations, and the solution to that puzzle is 'We invented Jesus Christ, and we're proud of it.'"

Is this the beginning of the end of Christianity? "Probably not," grants Atwill, "but what my work has done is give permission to many of those ready to leave the religion to make a clean break. We've got the evidence now to show exactly where the story of Jesus came from. Although Christianity can be a comfort to some, it can also be very damaging and repressive, an insidious form of mind control that has led to blind acceptance of serfdom, poverty, and war throughout history. To this day, especially in the United States, it is used to create support for war in the Middle East."

Atwill encourages skeptics to challenge him at Conway Hall, where after the presentations there is likely to be a lively Q&A session. Joining Mr.Atwill will be fellow scholar Kenneth Humphreys, author of the book "Jesus Never Existed."

Further information can be found at http://www.covertmessiah.com.

About Joseph Atwill: Joseph Atwill is the author of the best-selling book "Caesar's Messiah" and its upcoming sequel "The Single Strand."

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 11 2013 at 10:39am
Ain't nobody tryin to hear the truth though...ErmmSleepy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 11 2013 at 10:41am
He will join a long list of scholars who is largely ignored in the secular community.   TBH I have never seen so much proof that someone's character is "compiled" from multiple sources.  This will go no where.   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 11 2013 at 10:44am
I'm glad that he isn't naive enough to believe that his research will change a devout Christian's mind. History shows that people will hold on to cherished beliefs no matter what evidence arises to refute them.

Speaking of history, he'd better have some pretty damned compelling evidence to support this theory. Particularly, why did the Romans slaughter early Christians, and why did they eventually fall for their own trick?  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 11 2013 at 10:46am
Interesting
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 11 2013 at 10:53am
I think Bronx Jazzy touched on this
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 11 2013 at 10:56am
Originally posted by Doc Holiday Doc Holiday wrote:

I'm glad that he isn't naive enough to believe that his research will change a devout Christian's mind. History shows that people will hold on to cherished beliefs no matter what evidence arises to refute them.

Speaking of history, he'd better have some pretty damned compelling evidence to support this theory. Particularly, why did the Romans slaughter early Christians, and why did they eventually fall for their own trick?  


The secret is they never actually "fell" for it.   They just didn't count on powerful Pope's using their own weapon against them.    Once they got the people completely hoodwinked the Pope's said you may be King but I speak for the people's God so I am more powerful.   Roman Empire didn't stand a chance against that.  They were pretty good at stealing the technique for a while.   Just imagine the Roman Empire discovering yet another way to gain wealth and power.  Their real downfall was slavery.  

So the Roman Empire has been reduced down to one little city called the Vatican and the seat of power has lived there for a long ass time.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 11 2013 at 10:58am
I recall when many were swayed to believe the Da Vinci Code was based on facts.
So many people will grasp onto anything in an attempt to cast a doubt.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 11 2013 at 11:01am
Originally posted by Katrenia Katrenia wrote:

I recall when many were swayed to believe the Da Vinci Code was based on facts.
So many people will grasp onto anything in an attempt to cast a doubt.


That was just silly too.   The author begins this story by CLEARLY stating it is a work of fiction.   There were many facts used yes but just as many historical events fictionalized.   That's really what most works of fiction are supposed to be.

 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 11 2013 at 11:11am
Originally posted by kfoxx1998 kfoxx1998 wrote:



The secret is they never actually "fell" for it.   They just didn't count on powerful Pope's using their own weapon against them.    Once they got the people completely hoodwinked the Pope's said you may be King but I speak for the people's God so I am more powerful.   Roman Empire didn't stand a chance against that.  They were pretty good at stealing the technique for a while.   Just imagine the Roman Empire discovering yet another way to gain wealth and power.  Their real downfall was slavery.  

So the Roman Empire has been reduced down to one little city called the Vatican and the seat of power has lived there for a long ass time.



That was pretty much my answer for the second question. Constantine saw Christianity as a means to unite an empire fractured by Civil War, and thus came the ecumenical councils that would begin to mold the various Christian sects into what we know as Christianity today. The thing about using religion as a means of controlling the masses is that it tends to become a little too powerful to totally manipulate. A lesson that the Emperors learned from the Bishops of Rome, and they in turn, learned from Martin Luther and John Calvin.

My first question is a little trickier. Going by Atwill's theory, the persecution of the Christians could have been Rome's attempt to keep their experiment isolated to the Judeans instead of having it spread to the rest of the empire. 
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