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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 18 2013 at 9:56am
There are many parts of this that make me cry but one of them is the idea that just like during slavery whites expect us to bow, be deferential and move out of the way when they walk down the street.  If they ask to see our teeth or rub our heads any action other than compliance is considered hostile.   I hate this country.  I hate this world.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 18 2013 at 9:59am
Originally posted by afrikan gal afrikan gal wrote:

Lol at shauna... I just can't get over the interview by juror b-37, she kept saying those people and their lifestyle, very racist elitist attitude, how did they even interview those jurors before the selection process? This is the same type of person who says i'm not racist.


i am glad she talked as much as she did
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 18 2013 at 10:01am
Originally posted by Addicted19034 Addicted19034 wrote:

Originally posted by india100 india100 wrote:


I thought the defense said this is not a time to celebrate ? The fool better watch his back . So disrespectful to be out like that a few days later .
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They asked the public for HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS for George Zimmerman's defense ... but now that the case is over, GZ's lawyers are living the high life-- eating at one of NYC's most expensive restaurants.

TMZ cameras rolled as Mark O'Mara, <strong dir="ltr" id="tinymce" Editable="true">Don West and the rest of the team left the famous Nello restaurant in NYC earlier today ... where the lobster bisque will run you a cool $43.

Sources tell TMZ the gang was seen drinking champagne inside the restaurant ... and when it comes to the bubbly at Nello -- even the cheap stuff is expensive.

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    In fact, Nello is where ultra-rich stars like Jay-Z and Alex Rodriguez are often seen chowing down.

    On the way out, the lawyers told us they still believe the jury in the Trayvon Martin case made the right decision -- "[Zimmerman] was not guilty from day one."

    They also said the food at Nello's was excellent.


     




    I see they didnt invite Shauna


    lets be real it was a huge victory for him, i am glad GZ can go out in public. so basically O'Mara won
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 18 2013 at 10:10am
    did anyone catch Tray's fam on the Today Show this am?
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 18 2013 at 10:23am
    Good article on the White-Hispanic American identity

    Originally posted by Salon Salon wrote:


    Is George Zimmerman white or Hispanic? That depends


    For white Hispanics, our privilege can always be undercut. Zimmerman bet on his whiteness -- and now he's entrapped

    By Isa Hopkins
    Is George Zimmerman white or Hispanic? That depends
    George Zimmerman

    In the cascade of social media responses to the verdict in the death of young, black Trayvon Martin, the racial and ethnic identity of assailant George Zimmerman has been as bifurcated as the rage and relief. To those grieving an injustice, Zimmerman was a white man; those who celebrate his acquittal have been quick to point out that Zimmerman is, in fact, not white at all, but Hispanic. How can such a basic fact of a man be so disputed?

    The truth is, Zimmerman is both: white and Hispanic, one a racial category and the other a marker of ethnicity, an accusation and an exoneration, respectively, inverted from their usual exculpatory order.  Both are social constructions, but the former relies on skin color and ostensibly biological features, while the latter is a designation based on country of origin. Many Hispanics are dark-skinned, but many are not. It’s a confusing identity in a land that has traditionally preferred its divisions to be more clean-cut, and it’s one that even we white Hispanics struggle to understand.

    I grew up in Cleveland, a town without much of a Hispanic population, and in that black-and-white racial dichotomy I knew myself as white — part of a white family with a few odd habits, like eating beans and speaking Spanish, but white nonetheless.  When the time came to apply to college I checked the box marked “Hispanic” and my (white) friends laughed, told me I was a “fake Hispanic.” It wasn’t until I began a pre-frosh program for minority students at the California Institute of Technology (a school not generally known for promoting liberalism, racial awareness or political action of any kind) that I began to locate myself within the matrix of identities possible in contemporary America, and to understand that, while the “white” half of my labeling contained the potential for full membership in the hegemonic class, its follow-up — my Hispanic status — threatened to undercut any such privilege, a dirty little secret that could exclude me at the whim of those whose whiteness went unqualified.  I didn’t know what any of it meant until I got to California, found a community of the varyingly brown, and recognized that being Hispanic stood, in the minds of many, in opposition to whiteness, although not so oppositional as being black.



    The genius of white supremacy is in its elasticity: It can expand to include the not-quite-right, the off-whites, when necessary, and then otherize and eject us when convenient.  When I got into Caltech, my dream school at age 17, those same (white) friends assuaged the pain of their own collegiate rejections by telling me that I had only been accepted because I was Cuban, dismissing the constellation of my 99th percentile academic and extracurricular achievements with a cruelty, and an entitlement, that still stings and infuriates even a dozen years later.

    George Zimmerman, neighborhood watchman and wannabe cop, placed a bet on his whiteness; when he shot and killed a young, unarmed black teenager because they always get away, he spoke with an oppressor’s voice, and for his service the oppressor’s justice absolved him. But Zimmerman, liminal and of questionable loyalty, is not beyond betrayal — if his victim had been blond and named Travis then Fox News would likely be crowing about immigrant intrusiveness, the dangers of Mexicans with guns, rather than celebrating his right to bear arms. (Zimmerman’s mother is from Peru, but somehow the variegated rainbow of Latin identities always seem to collapse into Mexican-ness when under discussion, especially on Fox News.)

    The Republican Party parades Marco Rubio not insincerely. The party of white supremacy sees Hispanics as possible constituents not only in a cynical electoral gamble, but because we are, more often than not, Christian and light-skinned enough to pass, just barely qualified to join the extended array of whiteness at its margins. We could never be generals, but they would be happy to have us as their foot soldiers — and even such limited privilege promises less suffering and scrambling than the alternative, seems less difficult than standing proud and fighting in solidarity.

    It is not easy to reject the temptations of white privilege, not for genuine white allies and not for those of us who fit uneasily but usefully into the whole schematic. Regardless of skin color, we are all equally obligated to fight for justice for our oppressed brothers and sisters; this is a human responsibility, and an unconditional one. But those of us on the cusp of whiteness, those of us for whom every racial and ethnic data collection form is a negotiation — whether deliberating between checking white or Hispanic or any other box, whether on an employment application or at a doctor’s office or in the census — well, we face a particular challenge, blurring carefully constructed categories simply by the fact of our existence. It can be complicated to grapple with and tiresome to explain, but the fullness and contradiction of our blended backgrounds must be not only acknowledged, but honored; by ourselves, first and foremost.

    The outcome of George Zimmerman’s trial is that he will go free, pardoned by a white supremacist society for acting like a white supremacist. But such a grant is, in fact, a gilded cage, entrapping Zimmerman in whiteness and a privilege that will never allow him to understand and accept the meaning of his own heritage in today’s United States. Should he break the implicit contract he has signed with the lightness of his skin — should he express remorse, or agitate against the justice system that found him not guilty of murder when, by his own proud admission, he stalked, confronted, shot and killed an unarmed 17-year-old — he will find his privilege revoked, his financial support from strangers cut off, his celebration in conservative corners come to an abrupt end.

    Then, he will be called Hispanic on Twitter once more, and it will not be a song of praise.





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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 18 2013 at 10:37am
    Originally posted by iGotSunshine iGotSunshine wrote:

    did anyone catch Tray's fam on the Today Show this am?


    No missed it
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 18 2013 at 10:38am
    Binky, what?
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 18 2013 at 10:41am
    Trayvon's family is on The View right now!


    Well, not anymore
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 18 2013 at 10:41am
    Originally posted by Addicted19034 Addicted19034 wrote:

    Binky, what?


    huh? what are you referring to?
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 18 2013 at 10:48am
    Originally posted by Addicted19034 Addicted19034 wrote:

    Originally posted by iGotSunshine iGotSunshine wrote:

    did anyone catch Tray's fam on the Today Show this am?


    No missed it
     
    you could tell the parents wanted to say something about the prosecution but attorney crump wouldnt let them.
    i bet they feel like their hands are tied.
    Sybrina and Tracy both said GZ wouldnt have stopped Tray if he were white and they really thought they were going to get a guilty verdict.
     
    Whoever the host is pissed me off.
    he was like "well the protests have had violence"
    bitch what protest? the one in oakland? out of 1000 protest?
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