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TBH its not the homeowners job to add all of these bells and whistles on a pool on their property....its not their children that died....if they even have any.....Granny dropped the ball.....

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Originally posted by Tbaby Tbaby wrote:

I don't agree with all this condemnation of grandmothers...my MIL watched my kids alot when they were small.  I feel a door was accidentally left unlocked or open, and the kids walked.  That family will live with the pain for years Cry


But that's so unacceptable. Yes, the door could've been left open. But as a caretaker, it is your prime responsibility to make sure the children are safe and that didn't happen. Children will wander, children will put things in their mouths, children will be....well, children. Toddlers are not capable of watching themselves and when something easily preventable happens to children who are in the care of the adult, it is automatically the adults fault.

This is not a couple of knee scrapes, two babies are dead because they were unsupervised.
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Originally posted by Ds2nice Ds2nice wrote:

Originally posted by GoodGirlGoneGr8 GoodGirlGoneGr8 wrote:

Not everyone has kids, but I'm sure most of us live in neighborhoods with lowered speed limits. You're expected to oblige whether you have children or not, it's a precautionary measure.

Same with homeowners. There is a level of responsibility you have as a homeowner to comply with city standards. There are regulations in place for specific reasons.

Say the babies were able to access the pool on their own. The fact that the neighbors, neighbor-firefighter, onlookers etc were able to see what was inside the pool from their yard is telling of how secure the pool was...what barricade is there to separate your pool from the neighborhood? Is the community pool in your front yard?

Of course the children should've been supervised, that would've prevented all of this from happening. But as a homeowner, if your home isn't compliant and an accident like this happens you will automatically be involved and the safety of your house will be questioned. If your bases are covered then you have nothing to worry about.

 
What if the homeowners were cleaning their pool to get it ready for use and they had to lift the cover off, would you still believe they should be held liable?


They should not be held liable for the deaths, they should be held liable for non-compliance if their pool was not up to par with city standards. We could go on all day with the technicalities. My point: they weren't the caretakers, so they shouldn't be held responsible for their deaths. However, because the deaths occurred on their property, they will automatically be involved.
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I need to know why Granny was so tired from watching the kids for an hour.
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Its just a bad situation all around, we don't know if granny was on meds that made her sleepy or if she was just tired and is a deep sleeper. In my opinion it really doesn't matter because two children are gone regardless of the details. I hope their family finds strength during this time.
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Door/Window Alarms are sooooooo necessary.  I have heard too many stories of children wandering off and out of their homes, into nearby places of business, busy fareways etc.  Most parents dont realize how much ability a two year old has to get out of the home so they dont feel like the supervision needs to be as persistent.  Even a trip to the restroom to pee, and leaving your toddler unattended is enough time for them to slip out of the safety of your home. 

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I feel for the parents, I know this can destroy a marriage. 
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Originally posted by ChubbyYeti ChubbyYeti wrote:

Originally posted by tropical-punch tropical-punch wrote:

If I had a pool, I wouldn't want anyone wandering into it. Installing a fence is a must.


Not all neighborhoods allow fences (something I was surprised to hear). My husband grew up in a nice suburban neighborhood and there were no fences separating the yards (the city think they look tacky). I don't know how they handle pools.

You shouldn't have a pool if you can't have a fence.
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Originally posted by GoodGirlGoneGr8 GoodGirlGoneGr8 wrote:

Originally posted by Ds2nice Ds2nice wrote:

Originally posted by GoodGirlGoneGr8 GoodGirlGoneGr8 wrote:

Not everyone has kids, but I'm sure most of us live in neighborhoods with lowered speed limits. You're expected to oblige whether you have children or not, it's a precautionary measure.

Same with homeowners. There is a level of responsibility you have as a homeowner to comply with city standards. There are regulations in place for specific reasons.

Say the babies were able to access the pool on their own. The fact that the neighbors, neighbor-firefighter, onlookers etc were able to see what was inside the pool from their yard is telling of how secure the pool was...what barricade is there to separate your pool from the neighborhood? Is the community pool in your front yard?

Of course the children should've been supervised, that would've prevented all of this from happening. But as a homeowner, if your home isn't compliant and an accident like this happens you will automatically be involved and the safety of your house will be questioned. If your bases are covered then you have nothing to worry about.

 
What if the homeowners were cleaning their pool to get it ready for use and they had to lift the cover off, would you still believe they should be held liable?


They should not be held liable for the deaths, they should be held liable for non-compliance if their pool was not up to par with city standards. We could go on all day with the technicalities. My point: they weren't the caretakers, so they shouldn't be held responsible for their deaths. However, because the deaths occurred on their property, they will automatically be involved.


Ok, I got your point.

Edited by Ds2nice - Apr 17 2014 at 9:05pm
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