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    Posted: Jul 23 2014 at 2:03pm
Originally posted by noneyons noneyons wrote:

geezus, the world is backing russia in a corner. meanwhile israel is busy mowing the lawn. this is gonna get very interesting. 
Their govt keeps throwing their people on TV to push their massacre of the Palestinian people. Fugg 'em.
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^^ I think Russia is going to come back in power or something. I been side eyeing Korean and Israel. And the U.S. keep fooling around, they better not start nothing.
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Originally posted by Starrygurl Starrygurl wrote:

Mmm...R.i.p, but Israel always got to come into a play. I saw a few people said blame Israel. I see world war 3 may be  sooner then we think. And yet an other plane crash today? What's going on?!Geek
Reminds of that Event show a bit. Can't even travel without worrying things may happen.


my take is, its already here. christ.....Russia got warships just chillin in Cuban waters....
nary a word been said about that.




Russian Navy Ships Arrive in Havana, Cuba
Planned visit to last until 23 December.

HAVANA -- Three Russian navy vessels arrived Friday at the Havana harbor in the first such visit since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991.

The destroyer Admiral Chabanenko entered the harbor before 10 a.m. with the entire crew lined up on the deck. It fired its guns in salute upon entering Havana Bay, with Cuba answering in kind with its own welcoming shots from La Cabaña Fort.

The port call was greeted with martial music played by the Cuban navy band, while a throng of curious onlookers crowded alongside the canal that forms the entrance to the harbor.

Later, two Russian support vessels made their entrance.

A Russian diplomatic official told Efe that "the main goal of the visit is the development of relations of cooperation between the Russian navy and the Cuban navy, as well as of ties of friendship."

The former Soviet Union was Cuba's staunchest ally, buying 63 percent of the island's sugar, 73 percent of its nickel and 95 percent of its citrus - all at inflated prices as part of Moscow's massive subsidies to the Communist regime in Havana.

The Cuban economy went into a tailspin with the loss of those subsidies following the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991.

The ships will remain at the island until Dec. 23 and, according to the official, Cubans will be allowed to tour the Admiral Chabanenko over the weekend.

Cuban authorities said the Russian crewmembers will pay a courtesy visit to the head of the Cuban navy, Vice Adm. Pedro Perez Betancourt, and that meetings also will be held at the seat of Parliament and Cuba's naval academy.

The Admiral Chabanenko recently participated in joint exercises with the Venezuelan navy and also visited Nicaragua.

Russia's navy deployment to Venezuela, Cuba's close ally, was the first to the Caribbean since the Cold War and came after Moscow expressed its anger over Washington's move to send Navy vessels to Georgia during that country's recent conflict with Russia.

Although Moscow said the early-December joint exercises with Venezuela - governed by socialist Hugo Chavez, a fiery critic of U.S. foreign policy - had nothing to do with "third countries," they were widely viewed as a challenge to the U.S. influence in Latin America.

Also this month, a Russian warship traversed the Panama Canal for the first time since World War II.




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Mmm...R.i.p, but Israel always got to come into a play. I saw a few people said blame Israel. I see world war 3 may be  sooner then we think. And yet an other plane crash today? What's going on?!Geek
Reminds of that Event show a bit. Can't even travel without worrying things may happen.

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Originally posted by noneyons noneyons wrote:

geezus, the world is backing russia in a corner. meanwhile israel is busy mowing the lawn. this is gonna get very interesting. 

ikr.....war of the worlds got nothing on this
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did ya'll see the two CNN anchors going at it over this issue? I agree with the one who was doing the stand-up from the airport (cant recall his name, lol)...

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geezus, the world is backing russia in a corner. meanwhile israel is busy mowing the lawn. this is gonna get very interesting. 
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just sharing, for those who may not have come across this yet


MH17 crash: Hear 'moment Russian rebels realise they've shot down civilian aircraft by mistake'

This leaked audio claims to reveal a conversation between pro-Russian militants just minutes after the crash

 

Leaked audio clips reveal the moment Russian rebels realise they have shot down flight MH17, Ukrainian intelligence agencies claim.

The Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 plunged six miles from the sky and crashed into a field in a ball of flames, killing all 295 on board – including up to six Brits.

Ukrainian rebels quickly denied they were behind the tragedy, which was also feared to have killed 80 children.

But moments after the plane crashed near the ­separatist stronghold village of Grabovo in the Donetsk region, rebel commander Igor Strelkov boasted his forces had shot down a Ukrainian air force Antonov-26.

He tweeted: “We just hit down An-26. We warned you… do not fly in ‘our sky’.

“And here is the video ­confirmation of the ‘bird dropping’.”

The message was deleted after it emerged the downed plane was a passenger jet.

Malaysia Flight MH17VIEW GALLERY
 

But a chilling video posted on ­Strelkov’s vk.com website showed a plume of smoke emerging from the horizon as three men discussed the crash. One says: “Just now the plane was hit.”

The second man replies in a happy voice: “All over, it is already over.”

The first man adds: “We are out now, watching, look at those black spots, these are the parts, flying, and it was a blast.”

Then the second man says: “They got it, they hit it. They shoot and hit it.” A third man, laughing, then remarks: “It was worth bringing this thing, wasn’t it?”

Two other Ukrainian military aircraft were shot down in the region in recent days.

Last night there were claims that the missile was fired from the village of ­Chornukhine, Luhansk Oblast, north east of Donetsk.

The Ukrainian secret service – the SBU – said it intercepted phone calls between Igor Bezler, a commander of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic and Vasili Geranin, a colonel in the intelligence ­department of the armed forces of the Russian Federation.

Follow the latest developments on the plane crash with our live coverage.

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According to the SBU, the call was made just 20 minutes after the plane was shot down.

Bezler tells Geranin: “We have just shot down a plane.”

Another intercepted phone conversation between two militants known as "Major" and "Grek" was made just after they apparently inspected the wreck.

Major is recorded as saying: “It’s 100% a civilian aircraft.”

He admits to seeing no weapons and adds: ­“Absolutely nothing, civilian items, ­medicinal stuff, towels, toilet paper.”

As pro-Russian rebels and Ukrainian ­military chiefs blamed each other for the tragedy, a witness told how he saw Flight MH17 plummet to the ground in Ukraine, 25 miles from the Russian border.

The farmer, known only as Vladimir, said: “I was working in the field on my tractor when I heard the sound of a plane and then a bang and shots.



http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/mh17-crash-hear-moment-russian-3877080#ixzz388rtiNDf 
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why are the "separatists' being allowed to comb the brash site? they are not rescuers or officials. why are they there? isn't there some international body that's supposed to be in charge of the scene?
From what ive been reading, and conversations with a few people who have been following this mess from the get go, its the pro-Russia idiots who shot down the plane (seemingly in error)...I didnt know its cool now for murder to be allowed to roam the scene of their crime?
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Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

Originally posted by trudawg trudawg wrote:

I.e., the [already] dead bodies were on the plane when it was shot down
images of the actual bodies on liveleak. They look swollen and full of rigamortis

*graphic*
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e5_1405626203

when I seen  them  images of fresh unburned passports I thought something isn't right, why would all the passports be collected in one spot. Generally, folks keep their passports on them.


thats because they have a small surface area

my brain's slow today and physics is not my friend :(...explain...?



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