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    Posted: Jul 05 2014 at 10:35am
I never understood the 1/2 white/Anythingreally + 1/2 black (Or even 1/4 black, etc.) = not black thing. At all.




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Disappointed to hear that CurlyNikki is going in a new direction, off to find other websites that are more relevant.
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Originally posted by afrikan gal afrikan gal wrote:

Kola spouting off again, like someone said she does not practice what she preaches, what she does well is to rile up emotions with her rants. 
Jamillah's article was funny, reading her article, i taught Nikki was a white women lol, yes 4c women are underrepresented by the natural community, im not  sure of reasons either due to aesthetics or black women's disinterest. i don't get why Nikki  cant represent black women's  hair in AA community, i taught most AA's were mixture of races? Please educate me if not. Being African my self, i cant relate to hair practices but i'm sure others with similar hair patterns can.
Nikki's response was longggg, so i couldn't read it all, but what i got from the few paragraphs i scanned through i was a lot self righteous spouting, why doesn't she admit she has made alot of her money  and gained popularity through representing a feature of black woman, whom she herself has no full claim over it? instead she talks about inclusion etc....


Our ancestry is not as homogenous due to lighter complected rapists in the blood line. And since rapists are cowards and cowards don't hold themselves accountable, all we know for sure is that we're Black.  American by way of the Motherland and ships. African by race. Not sure if that helps. 

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Originally posted by mizzsandra00 mizzsandra00 wrote:

Broken clock is right twice a day......


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Originally posted by Alias_Avi Alias_Avi wrote:

So you're not Black if you are biracial (one blk parent, one non-blk parent) NO

But if you have 1 biracial parent and 1 blk parent, you can claim Black?  NO

What if you have 2 half-Black biracial parents, are you Black? NO

What if you have 2 Black parents and you look Biracial? NO. Who's Black then? my problem with the reverse one drop rulers is they can't seem to agree on a %...Sleepy


Or is it only if you come out the womb of a non-Black woman that defines you as non-Black?

Someone explain to me how this math works
 
 
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I get what she's saying as well. I understand the problems she's trying to highlight. I just don't think it's that cut and dry.

And further more , wasn't Kola's father an Arab? Does that mean she's not a real black woman, by her own standards? This whole thing can get murky when it's treated in a simplistic manner.

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I mean, think about it. In many places in the Caribbean and Latin America, you have light skinned/mulatto individuals that have banded together to create some type of a buffer class that is supposedly "superior" to their darker-skinned counterparts. One drop rule has allowed black americans to avoid all that bullsheit and that's a good thing.

I'm thinking of Haiti, cuba, Brazil (and let's not forget DR!)... Sometimes I think that one drop rule would have done us some good.

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You know, I have mixed feelings about the whole one drop rule being harmful, tbh. Because even though I can see how it can create problems in terms of media representations of blackness and all that, it's African-Americans that came up with the natural hair movement and I don't see how it would have happened any other way. Knowing how the mentality is in the Caribbean, I'm pretty darn sure that there is no way in hell that this movement could have originated from the West Indies. And I'm not too sure about Africa either at this point because there's this whole thing going on where if you are to be viewed as cosmopolitan and sophisticated and all that, you gotta have Kim K weave nearly grazing your butt. It's very much in fashion nowadays to attack this one drop rule thing these days but I feel like people are overlooking the benefits of it. There is a cohesiveness that would have NEVER been attained in the U.S. black community without it. I mean, look how things are going elsewhere in the diaspora in terms of black identity. The whole mulatto elite situation is hardly better. In Haiti, this is what we are dealing with, despite our black revolution.

I know I'm only speaking for myself but it's AA black consciousness that drove me to explore my own blackness as a woman of west indian descent RAISED IN NORTH AMERICA. I'm very much aware of that, all things considered. So even though the one drop rule was borne out of racism and ignorance, there have been some positive effects that came out of it. Now the problem is to find a way around the negative impacts.

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Kola spouting off again, like someone said she does not practice what she preaches, what she does well is to rile up emotions with her rants. 
Jamillah's article was funny, reading her article, i taught Nikki was a white women lol, yes 4c women are underrepresented by the natural community, im not  sure of reasons either due to aesthetics or black women's disinterest. i don't get why Nikki  cant represent black women's  hair in AA community, i taught most AA's were mixture of races? Please educate me if not. Being African my self, i cant relate to hair practices but i'm sure others with similar hair patterns can.
Nikki's response was longggg, so i couldn't read it all, but what i got from the few paragraphs i scanned through i was a lot self righteous spouting, why doesn't she admit she has made alot of her money  and gained popularity through representing a feature of black woman, whom she herself has no full claim over it? instead she talks about inclusion etc....

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