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    Posted: Jul 03 2014 at 1:49pm
I know one thing 100% of blacks BHM members failed to give me a summary.
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Originally posted by rickysrose rickysrose wrote:

Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:

Originally posted by whosbotheringme whosbotheringme wrote:

I know, ConcreteRose.  My solution is probably quite idealized.  I think the fact that people don't understand what racism truly is and how it works is probably one of the biggest problems.

I think my solution would have to work in a very slow chain reaction type of way.


And lol @ bootstrap people you can beat upCry


nope

have two co workers that some how thought homophobia falls under racism




Oh how it irritates me when black people agree with this

LBGT got so far so quickly because they could take advantage of their white privilege

And they USED racism to advance their agenda, under the guise of civil rights. 

Not saying whether or not it's a worthy agenda, I'm saying that racism was used as a pawn.

I say that because while they equated homophobia with racism they did not include racism in their agenda








they are asian and white

but yeah I hate when black people are this delusional
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Originally posted by rickysrose rickysrose wrote:


I think we should keep having these conversations because some posters are hearing these perspectives for the first time 

Things will change for the better if we collectively understood these dynamics, it would go along way towards a cohesive culture 


 
 
I know.  I don't usually participate in anything too heavy on here but something someone said in this thread struck me for some reason.
 
Civil dialogue from opposing views is good.Smile
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I think we should keep having these conversations because some posters are hearing these perspectives for the first time 

Things will change for the better if we collectively understood these dynamics, it would go along way towards a cohesive culture 


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cherry one of them asked why me hair (I am natural) is not straight like other black women's hair (that is relaxed) and added that she wasn't trying to be racist

she also told me I was racist when I said a white co worker had a ghetto baby shower....she quickly changed it to classist lol

she also let me know she was terrified of saying the wrong thing to me because she does not know if something she may say is racist or not lol

I had a coworker correct another new coworker on the exceptional black myth during a business lunch

I thought wow he must've taken notes when I read him LOL



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And from what I understand tThere is also so much racism WITHIN the LGBT community that is why it is laughable.
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Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:

Originally posted by whosbotheringme whosbotheringme wrote:

I know, ConcreteRose.  My solution is probably quite idealized.  I think the fact that people don't understand what racism truly is and how it works is probably one of the biggest problems.

I think my solution would have to work in a very slow chain reaction type of way.


And lol @ bootstrap people you can beat upCry


nope

have two co workers that some how thought homophobia falls under racism




Oh how it irritates me when black people agree with this

LBGT got so far so quickly because they could take advantage of their white privilege

And they USED racism to advance their agenda, under the guise of civil rights. 

Not saying whether or not it's a worthy agenda, I'm saying that racism was used as a pawn.

I say that because while they equated homophobia with racism they did not include racism in their agenda






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I don't know.  I'm in between those years and some of us did do a lot.  Y'all lived thru Bush but we lived thru Regan and they learned all their bull from him.  That was the beginning.  You can't tell me that a lot of that crap that happened in the 80s wasn't carefully orchestrated.  I think the progress people were trying to make was brought to a screeching halt by a lot of circumstances put in place.  No one will tell me the crack epidemic and the turn that rap music has taken isn't all too convenient.  Just knowing how they infilitrated every organization that was for our betterment makes me know otherwise.

I think people who were teens in the 80s were also less worried about fitting in with white folks than this younger generation is as well.  I went to school in Brooklyn in the 80s and if you went in the wrong neighborhood there were actual race riots in/at the schools and people being chased out of neighborhoods by angry mobs of GROWN ASS white folks.  if you know someone in their 40's from Brooklyn ask them about Hudde or Bildersee or Roy H. Mann.  We lived through that.  Whole neighborhoods selling their houses because 3 black families moved in and it was not "our neighborhood" anymore.
 
In my 20s I particiapted in a lot of activism first hand.  I was actually there when Al Sharpton got stabbed.  I think, as usual, when white people see progress they put in motion circumstances to stop it.  I see the younger generations as being a lot worse than we were in a lot of ways.
 
I'm not considered a baby boomer tho.  I am actually part of Gen X.


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Yes, I spoke with a black Civil Rights Activist (male) who was a chemist. He was talking about he didn't know where things "went wrong" and I told him...it was yalls kids. They contributed NOTHING to the progression of black people, but are the ones that complain the loudest. They became complacent. 

Think about it: 

If you were born from 1960 - 1970 you were 10, at the oldest, when your parents were fighting for equal rights. 

This means your teenage years came about in the 80s and young adult hood in the 90s. Thanks for nothing, cause yall didn't do sheit. You didn't have to fight in wars. You didn't have to fight as nearly as hard for equal treatment. You really didn't have to do sheit but not phuck up. You, unlike our generation, did not live through a recession. You got the benefit of Bill....we (1980s - 1990s) lived through Bush. 

Everything from the crack epidemic, heavy violence within the black community, general complacency, etc came from this era entirely. Even these ratchet hoes on tv (Love & Hip Hop etc) are mostly NOT in their 20s or even early 30s. The majority are pushing 40 and 50 years old. Even the Million Man March was orchestrated by our GRANDPARENTS generation. Those born in the 60s to 70s did not even bother to keep that up.  

I think the younger generation is more focused on progression and success than our parents by far, the only thing I'm not liking is that I think we are, admittedly, more ignorant about racism and our culture than we should be, but hell, that's because our parents did not feel it was necessary to instill those values. 




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Originally posted by mrshairdo mrshairdo wrote:

Originally posted by mrshairdo mrshairdo wrote:

threads like this really make me love and STAN for ricky and afro
lemme just go ahead and cosign all your statements from just reading pg 1-3


just came to requote Embarrassed

and to say i used to think like MD before i got educated (the irony) and ever since going back to uni my eyes have been opened in a way i never anticipated

i suggest those that think racism is over, isn't as bad and that we're absolutely free, please read and do some research on systematic/institutionalized racism...representation, prison industrial complex....there's so much...i'll even provide books to read

but i cannot accept the bs ppl spit....yes A LOT of fuccas stay making bad decisions but doing so in a system which already designed you to fail and do said things .....
there are so many levels to this sh*t and it took me a long time to truly understand the depths to which this statement is true..i'll never look at white ppl the same


please give me a list of books to read
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