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    Posted: May 05 2014 at 11:02am
smh... too extreme

i interviewed a few months back and was asked what id do if johnny kept acting up and i was giving my class with pizza.. i asked if the pizza was a reward or if it was just lunch.. he said reward. i asked if johnnys behavior was chronic or just today. he said weve had meetings with his parents.

i said johnny wont get pizza cause i dont reward bad behavior, whether it was a one time thing or his usual. i didnt get the job. now i withhold pizza elsewhere Approve
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Originally posted by danieb23 danieb23 wrote:

Originally posted by TokyoRose TokyoRose wrote:

Originally posted by danieb23 danieb23 wrote:

Originally posted by TokyoRose TokyoRose wrote:

Let me get this straight.  

Tokyorose will make a child do a written punishment if her kids get out out of line.
In America, that would not be okay.  It's child abuse.

Tokyorose will make a child sit or stand up with his or her hands on their heads until they have calmed down.
In America, that would not be okay.  It's child abuse.

Tokyorose will call a student out when that child gets out of control and she will take away that child's play time, if necessary.
In America, that would not be okay.  It's child abuse.

But HANDCUFFING A CHILD is OKAY?  It's not considered child abuse?

WTF am I missing?

If teachers had more control over their classrooms, there would be no need for the damn handcuffs.


Huh? Many teachers do these things here. Who is crying child abuse for this besides some of the bhm eccentrics?


I know that in NYC if you make a kid write lines, you can be written up for it because it is seen as child abuse.  This is coming from a friend who used to teach in the Bronx.

Another acquaintance has told me that when you teach certain stories, you aren't allowed to have the kids change the endings.  

You aren't allowed to say, "See what happens if you do that again" because that is considered verbal threatening.  

There seems to be a lot of ridiculous school rules I have come across from educators across the country who would be stuck in a rubber room if they were to do things the way some of us do them over here.


That's utterly ridiculous! This must be some new age type of b.s.

And that's precisely why you would never catch me teaching in any school in the US, ever, unless things start to change.  Nothing I do hurts my kids or causes them any emotional issues, but they do know I mean business.  I'm old school and as a result, my kids out perform most other kids in the same grade level at our school.
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Originally posted by TokyoRose TokyoRose wrote:

Originally posted by danieb23 danieb23 wrote:

Originally posted by TokyoRose TokyoRose wrote:

Let me get this straight.  

Tokyorose will make a child do a written punishment if her kids get out out of line.
In America, that would not be okay.  It's child abuse.

Tokyorose will make a child sit or stand up with his or her hands on their heads until they have calmed down.
In America, that would not be okay.  It's child abuse.

Tokyorose will call a student out when that child gets out of control and she will take away that child's play time, if necessary.
In America, that would not be okay.  It's child abuse.

But HANDCUFFING A CHILD is OKAY?  It's not considered child abuse?

WTF am I missing?

If teachers had more control over their classrooms, there would be no need for the damn handcuffs.


Huh? Many teachers do these things here. Who is crying child abuse for this besides some of the bhm eccentrics?


I know that in NYC if you make a kid write lines, you can be written up for it because it is seen as child abuse.  This is coming from a friend who used to teach in the Bronx.

Another acquaintance has told me that when you teach certain stories, you aren't allowed to have the kids change the endings.  

You aren't allowed to say, "See what happens if you do that again" because that is considered verbal threatening.  

There seems to be a lot of ridiculous school rules I have come across from educators across the country who would be stuck in a rubber room if they were to do things the way some of us do them over here.


That's utterly ridiculous! This must be some new age type of b.s.
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Originally posted by danieb23 danieb23 wrote:

Originally posted by TokyoRose TokyoRose wrote:

Let me get this straight.  

Tokyorose will make a child do a written punishment if her kids get out out of line.
In America, that would not be okay.  It's child abuse.

Tokyorose will make a child sit or stand up with his or her hands on their heads until they have calmed down.
In America, that would not be okay.  It's child abuse.

Tokyorose will call a student out when that child gets out of control and she will take away that child's play time, if necessary.
In America, that would not be okay.  It's child abuse.

But HANDCUFFING A CHILD is OKAY?  It's not considered child abuse?

WTF am I missing?

If teachers had more control over their classrooms, there would be no need for the damn handcuffs.


Huh? Many teachers do these things here. Who is crying child abuse for this besides some of the bhm eccentrics?

I know that in NYC if you make a kid write lines, you can be written up for it because it is seen as child abuse.  This is coming from a friend who used to teach in the Bronx.

Another acquaintance has told me that when you teach certain stories, you aren't allowed to have the kids change the endings.  

You aren't allowed to say, "See what happens if you do that again" because that is considered verbal threatening.  

There seems to be a lot of ridiculous school rules I have come across from educators across the country who would be stuck in a rubber room if they were to do things the way some of us do them over here.

ETA: Now that I think of it, I remember when I was being interviewed by a panel about classroom management.  Do you know that they told me that it wasn't acceptable when I told my students if they tipped in their chair, they were going to lose it for 5 minutes...because that would be embarrassing the student???  Never mind the safety issue.  They were more concerned that despite me giving warnings about what would happen should they continue that behavior that...I would somehow embarrass the child. Confused


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Originally posted by TokyoRose TokyoRose wrote:

Let me get this straight.  

Tokyorose will make a child do a written punishment if her kids get out out of line.
In America, that would not be okay.  It's child abuse.

Tokyorose will make a child sit or stand up with his or her hands on their heads until they have calmed down.
In America, that would not be okay.  It's child abuse.

Tokyorose will call a student out when that child gets out of control and she will take away that child's play time, if necessary.
In America, that would not be okay.  It's child abuse.

But HANDCUFFING A CHILD is OKAY?  It's not considered child abuse?

WTF am I missing?

If teachers had more control over their classrooms, there would be no need for the damn handcuffs.


Huh? Many teachers do these things here. Who is crying child abuse for this besides some of the bhm eccentrics?
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Didnt read/watch.

But I work with kids who act a plum fool in school and you can't touch them at all... Sometimes you have to call the police in to keep from being sued and losing your job... 
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The fear of the black man. That boy was 7 years old and they treated him like a criminal and especially when he was the one getting picked on. Smfh.
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I have a seven year old and he would have had a panic attack.  I would sue the city.  
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Let me get this straight.  

Tokyorose will make a child do a written punishment if her kids get out out of line.
In America, that would not be okay.  It's child abuse.

Tokyorose will make a child sit or stand up with his or her hands on their heads until they have calmed down.
In America, that would not be okay.  It's child abuse.

Tokyorose will call a student out when that child gets out of control and she will take away that child's play time, if necessary.
In America, that would not be okay.  It's child abuse.

But HANDCUFFING A CHILD is OKAY?  It's not considered child abuse?

WTF am I missing?

If teachers had more control over their classrooms, there would be no need for the damn handcuffs.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote OhMyCurlz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2014 at 8:58am
"Safety"? LMAO......because God knows a security guard is no match for a 4 foot 3 seven year old. Lil' man just stopped pissing on himself but they scared like that? BS. They did that as a form of intimidation, I guarantee the cuffs come with a "if you are going to behave like a criminal, we will treat you like one" speech. 

They can at least be honest. I would also demand to see in the student handbook/policy where hand cuffs are specified and when they are used. 
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