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    Posted: Apr 16 2014 at 9:54am
Originally posted by Ladybird0724 Ladybird0724 wrote:

Its not just about poasible drug use. I can see this being a problem for miscarriages. I can also see people using this to regulate women's bodies even more during pregnancy. Its a slippery slope.
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Its not just about poasible drug use. I can see this being a problem for miscarriages. I can also see people using this to regulate women's bodies even more during pregnancy. Its a slippery slope.
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Matter of perception sweetie pie
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Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

Originally posted by Sang Froid Sang Froid wrote:

If that thang come out dead to the bed cause you been gettin' high as a kite yo dumb ass needs to be charged with something. Especially after that 24 week mark. If you think gettin' high is more important than being a good mother you need to march yo ass down to the abortion clinic.
recreational drug use occurs in a small fraction of pregnant women however lets look at this another way


If a woman becomes ill during pregnancy and needs life saving medication that will potentially kill the baby or cause significant deformities will she be considered culpable for opting to save her life?

If a woman becomes ill and requires emergency treatment eg thrombolysis and the knock on effect causes a placenta abruption does the administering nurse/midwife along with the prescribing clinician get hauled off to jail under the pretext of manslaughter/homicide?

Furthermore cocaine is used in medical settings too


Doing something for fun and doing something to save your life are two totally different things. 
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Oh look...a law that creates more problems than it solves in a state that regularly tries to pass legislation to make life more difficult for families.  If anyone has forgotten, this is the state that wanted to tie welfare benefits to how well children of the recipients did in school.  You know...because that would work out well.  

If the people in charge of actually caring for the women and children in these cases are telling politicians that these are bad changes, perhaps it'd be wise to listen. They might know what they're talking about. Just a thought. 
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-How much funding did they put into treatment programs?
-Also, how will they decide who to give a dr test?
-are alcohol and cigarettes being treated as drugs?
- do they really think this will encourage an open and honest dialog between Dr. and patient if a charge is on the line? How are they going to get help if they can't talk to a professional about their problem?

Too much wrong with this law.
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Originally posted by Sang Froid Sang Froid wrote:

If that thang come out dead to the bed cause you been gettin' high as a kite yo dumb ass needs to be charged with something. Especially after that 24 week mark. If you think gettin' high is more important than being a good mother you need to march yo ass down to the abortion clinic.
recreational drug use occurs in a small fraction of pregnant women however lets look at this another way


If a woman becomes ill during pregnancy and needs life saving medication that will potentially kill the baby or cause significant deformities will she be considered culpable for opting to save her life?

If a woman becomes ill and requires emergency treatment eg thrombolysis and the knock on effect causes a placenta abruption does the administering nurse/midwife along with the prescribing clinician get hauled off to jail under the pretext of manslaughter/homicide?

Furthermore cocaine is used in medical settings too



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Originally posted by Sang Froid Sang Froid wrote:

Originally posted by liesnalibis liesnalibis wrote:

They tried this before and it was struck down for the same reasons abortion is still legal. It would really be weird to approve of one and not the other.

But you can be charged with double homicide if you kill a pregnant woman and the baby dies right?
I'm sure this varies state by state.
Not sure which ones are consistent or not.

This just goes to show why all that philosophical moral thinking is bullshyt and lawmakers think they have the answers but they really don't. It shows that a lot of the things we do are because that's what we want to do and not because it's right or wrong. 

Anyway I agree with this law but then again I don't agree with abortion so.


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If that thang come out dead to the bed cause you been gettin' high as a kite yo dumb ass needs to be charged with something. Especially after that 24 week mark. If you think gettin' high is more important than being a good mother you need to march yo ass down to the abortion clinic.
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Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

Originally posted by Sang Froid Sang Froid wrote:

Well it's child endangerment. 
not a child at this point tbh


I believe if the fetus can survive without the host its a child.....I also don't believe in late term abortion.....tho
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