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    Posted: Jun 18 2014 at 4:42pm
Originally posted by juniordetective juniordetective wrote:

Originally posted by pinkecube pinkecube wrote:

yes you would. I have 4a hair at my nape and they were the first area to reach max hydration. The main thread btw is is titled max hydration method. Page 72 has the full regimen.

Thanks! I am going to go really look into it, because this method seems fairly new.


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Originally posted by pinkecube pinkecube wrote:

yes you would. I have 4a hair at my nape and they were the first area to reach max hydration. The main thread btw is is titled max hydration method. Page 72 has the full regimen.

Thanks! I am going to go really look into it, because this method seems fairly new.
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yes you would. I have 4a hair at my nape and they were the first area to reach max hydration. The main thread btw is is titled max hydration method. Page 72 has the full regimen.
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Originally posted by pinkecube pinkecube wrote:

Many ppl with 4a are able to wash and goes, its really the 4b 4c community that believes their hair has no curl pattern. Most of this group is low porosity. I mention 4a too because some ppl have mixed textures, and some ppl have low porous 4a hair that tends to not define well either. Some ppl also very kinky but 3c hair. This would depend heavily on porosity. Someone with low porous 4a kinky hair is going to get different results that someone with higher porous 4a hair. Both of which ive seen.

Now with this method, do you think I would be able to get more definition at the roots even though I am 4a. Because the frizziness there, bugs me. Lol.
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This is my hair with and without product. 
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Many ppl with 4a are able to wash and goes, its really the 4b 4c community that believes their hair has no curl pattern. Most of this group is low porosity. I mention 4a too because some ppl have mixed textures, and some ppl have low porous 4a hair that tends to not define well either. Some ppl also very kinky but 3c hair. This would depend heavily on porosity. Someone with low porous 4a kinky hair is going to get different results that someone with higher porous 4a hair. Both of which ive seen.


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Just would like to point out...I'm type 4a and my hair has never really had an issue with wash n gos...I have always been able to just put some gel on my hair and go. Now, my roots weren't ALWAYS defined, but I would say about 80% of my curl (on an individual curl) was defined. 
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I already posted this but, take a good look at how compact the curls are. This is 4c hair, not 4a hair, and I never used to get root to tip definition in these areas before, if anything, only the tips would coil, and it would be and even more compact coil, that looked like a tube.


4c hair is the most compact, like a tube. 4a hair you can see spaces between the coil, and it's bigger. Also, when their is weight of product, it can form a big s curl, (not to be confused with the sharper zigzags of 4b hair) where as when 4c hair get weighed down it can look like more of a number 5, or a zigzag. In it's dehydrated state, it has the tendency to form random loopings among individual strands, making it less likely to clump. This is even more so an issue for 4b hair. I actually have some curls near my ear that are even tighter than a pen spring but still clump. As it grows longer and gets more retention it will probably clump better.

A visual of why 4c hair will not clump:

Compare the two strands after being put in water to the ones after being treated with baking-soda. Which one is more likely to want to fit together like a puzzle piece?


http://www.thenaturalhavenbloom.com/2009/11/myth-or-fact-baking-soda-relaxer.html


Under soaked in water, the water likely did not penetrate the strand, just sat on top of it.

After bakingsoda treatment, the water is able to penetrate the strand because the tightly shut cuticles have been opened. This is the only effect baking-soda has on the hair cuticle, it does not change the curl pattern. The intake of water into the hair cortex increases weight of the hair strand, which is what all hair is meant to do in water, but low porosity 4c and 4b hair adamantly resists.

 Once the weight of the water is in the curl, the curl becomes more uniform. It is no longer so lightweight from lack of water retention in the cortex, that each individual strand over springs and loops upon itself randomly, which prevents clumping. The uniform curl that is meant to be there is created, making it easier for curl strand to want to clump together like puzzle pieces.



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If you aren't convince, think about it like this. High porous hair cannot be permanently high porous unless it is due to damage. All hair's cuticle lifts out when it is dry and lacking fatty acids, that is part of what frizz actually is, it has nothing to do with your actual porosity, it's about dehydrated hair. Low porosity hair can feel this way even while it is wet. Because the moisture sits on top of the strand.

Frizz especially effects tighter hair since it has less ability to spread sebum down the whole hair strand. We address that issue by putting oils on our hair. But if that was the whole story, it would solve the problem, and you would already be having results that i am getting in the after pictures. But it isn't.

The other part has to do with lack of weight in the hair cortex. No weight = no clumping, and i'm going to explain this thoroughly in my next post below. This is caused by lack of water absorption into the hair strand. Even if you sealed with oil, it wouldn't do anything for you if you didn't have water absorption in the cortex to seal in.

So if your hair was high porous, this would not be a problem for you at all. In fact, you would be able to treat your hair like relaxed hair, and still get the results i am getting now. Your hair would thrive on silicones and sulfates, and build up of proteins and heavy oils including mineral oil. That would be enough and you would have max hydration.


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The regimen is all about manipulating your hair's porosity.

 First step Clarify. This step gets rid of build up blocking the hair cuticle from absorbing optimum water. If you choose to do bakingsoda, it lifts the cuticle, getting it prepared for absorption of conditioner.

If you do the acv step, it cleans the build up all the same. Then the cuticle gets lifted via heat by deep conditioning. The next step you deep condition overnight.

The heat from the shower cap opens up your cuticles. You can also steam. If you rather not dc overnight, then you apply watered down warm conditioner to your hair for 10 mins in a cap. But to do that, you have to choose the bakingsoda option, not acv option. Then the third step is cowash, in which you rinse out the DC and detangle as you do it.

After that, bentonite clay rinse. The bentonite clay reopens your cuticle, preparing for the leave in step. Your hair will also be further clarified, and feel super soft and curls will start to pop.

After that, is the leave in step. The watered down conditioner will readily absorb into your hair, and then you seal with a botanical, non drying gel. both the gel and conditioner will be a ph 4-5, so your cuticles will close in this last step as well.
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