| Random Thoughts wrote:|
[QUOTE=Derri]And RT, how can you argue that he does it if you want to leave the definition up to me? Lol
Because you are the one that asserted that he doesn't show off - but not only that, you also said our definition of showing off is wrong, and or wordly. The one arguing the position should provide the terms of their argument, so that we don't have a moving goalpost.
In the world as we know it, a show off pomps for the sole purpose of pomping. Never for teaching, never for wisdom, just for flexing. Who learned something from Job's experiences?
I'm not sure who learned from Job's experiences. When Job asks him why he allowed those things to happen, god omits revealing the deal made between the devil, and instead rebuking him for asking. God then goes into a rant about all of the things he created and how Job is insignificant compared to him. The lesson in that story is pretty awful, actually.
Awful? As in something bad?
God never said, Job you're a piece of sh*t.
Just that It is not possible to know all and be all.
His first statement was basically, who is the one talking about stuff they don't really have any knowledge on? I want to speak with him.
Where were you when I made all of this, to even fix yourself to demand an answer of why suffering happens and to whom and why to them and not the other?
But if in the end job was blessed tenfold, so what was the point of all of that?
Perhaps to enlighten jobs' friends, who God addressed directly saying something like, I'm angry with you for claiming to know all of what I am and why I am what I am. You need to be more humble like Job, and accept that you only know what is relative and not what is absolute.
It was kind of a reminder to us who read, to reflect on our own minds' way of thinking as well.
And it was for Satan to know that especially when he troubles a faithful person, he will not be successful in the end, and that person will come away even more blessed than before. And that was also for us reading to see as well that Satan cannot control without God's permission which always works out for the benefit of the humble and godly.
And one thing that was very important that Job said was, 'the thing whoch I feared most has happened'
And fear is the parallel of faith. It is satan's version of faith. It indicates Job's fear might be what brought this on in the first place.
So who learned from all of this? Quite a lot of ppl.