Black Hair Media Forum Homepage
BHM BHM BHM
CoCo Black Hair
Forum Home Forum Home > Lets Talk > Talk, Talk, and More Talk
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Religion was created by man not god
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Register Register  Login Login
Extensions Plus
 

Topic ClosedReligion was created by man not god

 
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  123 17>
It Always Begin With Beautiful Hair

Premier Lace Wigs

Mynx Hair

Author
 Rating: Topic Rating: 5 Votes, Average 3.40  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
noneyons View Drop Down
Elite Member
Elite Member
Avatar

Joined: Oct 04 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 87160
Direct Link To This Post Topic: Religion was created by man not god
    Posted: Oct 04 2013 at 10:56pm
-imagine the creation of the universe was that of a singular power/entity (and not from two origin-less states of matter smushing together/manifesting into the space time continuum of what we call life). 

-imagine the opening lines of the book of genesis ( "in the beginning god created the heavens and earth and the earth was formless and void blah blah blah) was not describing the initial creation of the earth but the RESTORATION of the earth. (you'd need a concordance to break down the actual meaning of many of the words. for example, "was" can be translated to mean "became")

-so god restored the earth AFTER it became void and without life. after the war of the angels.

-elohim said let's make man in our image. Who is "our"? Imagine our are the people who came before adam and eve and become like god (like enoch of the old testament)

-imagine god's plan is for man to become like him (like enoch or jesus/yeshua). 

-satan was in charge of helping man achieving god consciousnes but defied god's plan out of jealousy. 


i'm losing interest but imagine god's original plan was for man to achieve god consciousness by way of reincarnation (evolution?) but there since there is an adversary who is actively trying to block god's plan, god sent a messiah that would allow mankind to reach that state of consciousness by way of salvation. 

i don't know how deep i want to go because to do so would require me to dig up the bible, a strong concordance and all that jazz and i'm too tipsy for that...but that's basically where i'm coming from.







Edited by noneyons - Oct 04 2013 at 10:58pm
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
Doc Holiday View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: Jul 28 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 2639
Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 04 2013 at 10:53pm
Originally posted by noneyons noneyons wrote:

i done tapped out and haven't contemplated this theory in a while so bear with me. i'm a little rusty so give me a sec. brb





Take your time. It's not like there some sort of due date for any of this. I'm pretty sure that I'll be calling it quits in a moment my self. I need to let Hyde out and relieve some of my inhibitions. LOL
Back to Top
noneyons View Drop Down
Elite Member
Elite Member
Avatar

Joined: Oct 04 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 87160
Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 04 2013 at 10:38pm
i done tapped out and haven't contemplated this theory in a while so bear with me. i'm a little rusty so give me a sec. brb




Back to Top
Doc Holiday View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: Jul 28 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 2639
Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 04 2013 at 10:26pm
It bears mentioning that Pre-Talmudic Judaism (my hypothetical faith) didn't concern itself with salvation or resurrection, but I am interested in reading how you would reconcile the two with reincarnation (an Eastern concept).

Edited by Doc Holiday - Oct 04 2013 at 10:27pm
Back to Top
noneyons View Drop Down
Elite Member
Elite Member
Avatar

Joined: Oct 04 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 87160
Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 04 2013 at 10:21pm
i will say this though. the bolded is reason enough for me to entertain the possibility of reincarnation and tie the two (reincarnation and salvation by way of the resurrection) together. ion know how deep i wanna go tonight. give me a minute to decide lol
Back to Top
noneyons View Drop Down
Elite Member
Elite Member
Avatar

Joined: Oct 04 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 87160
Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 04 2013 at 10:19pm
Quote You could, but it would take some impressive reaching. For one, the "state of the world" differs from individual to individual. Furthermore, is Yahweh blessing individual at random? He was certainly harsh in the Torah, but there was usually always some reason behind it.

i like this. let me sip a little more and i'll be back with response.
Back to Top
Doc Holiday View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: Jul 28 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 2639
Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 04 2013 at 10:16pm
Originally posted by noneyons noneyons wrote:

meaning you believe the torah is more logical than the new testament? can't say i disagree but could you expound on that?

In this instance? Yes. Yahweh of the Hebrew Bible was a god of justice rather than mercy, and acknowledged that he was the cause of both positive and negative phenomena. Things get murky in Judaism when the introduce the Zoroastrian themes of good vs evil and a reward/punishment based afterlife. Christianity and Islam picked up those themes and ran with them.

Originally posted by noneyons noneyons wrote:

based on torah law alone, i can not completely discount the plausibility of god's existence but this is only scratching the surface.

I never said that you could.

Originally posted by noneyons noneyons wrote:

as far as the two deities competing for human souls, the god of abraham, isaac, and jacob nem' was clearly a jealous and vengeful god. isn't that god persona consistent with the sad state of the world? could it be that god is everything described in the old testament and satan is only his advesary and not necessarily the bad guy?\

You could, but it would take some impressive reaching. For one, the "state of the world" differs from individual to individual. Furthermore, is Yahweh blessing individual at random? He was certainly harsh in the Torah, but there was usually always some reason behind it.

Originally posted by noneyons noneyons wrote:

how far down the rabbit hole we going here?

As far as you like.
Back to Top
noneyons View Drop Down
Elite Member
Elite Member
Avatar

Joined: Oct 04 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 87160
Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 04 2013 at 10:01pm
meaning you believe the torah is more logical than the new testament? can't say i disagree but could you expound on that?

based on torah law alone, i can not completely discount the plausibility of god's existence but this is only scratching the surface.

as far as the two deities competing for human souls, the god of abraham, isaac, and jacob nem' was clearly a jealous and vengeful god. isn't that god persona consistent with the sad state of the world? could it be that god is everything described in the old testament and satan is only his advesary and not necessarily the bad guy?\

how far down the rabbit hole we going here?
Back to Top
Doc Holiday View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: Jul 28 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 2639
Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 04 2013 at 10:00pm
Apologies for the multiple posts, I'm on mobile.

Edited by Doc Holiday - Oct 04 2013 at 10:01pm
Back to Top
Doc Holiday View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: Jul 28 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 2639
Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 04 2013 at 9:56pm
Originally posted by noneyons noneyons wrote:

in other words, how can you question the logical consistency without believing in god or satan. consistancy requires a foundation.


Again, you can hypothetically take a position for the sake of argument, as you have admitted to doing yourself.
Back to Top
Sunwell
China Lace Wigs
Get Healthier Stronger Longer Hair
Netwurks Xcel21
Human Hair Wigs
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  123 17>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down