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    Posted: Aug 24 2013 at 5:06pm
Don Lemon is going in today. Today he is talking about 'what's the matter with kids today' but focusing only on Black kids being the problem committing crimes, specifically the recent crimes of black teens against yt folk.

You are really earning the side eye Don Lemon.Ermm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug 11 2013 at 8:15am
Originally posted by smgreene67 smgreene67 wrote:

This is "respectability politics."  Basically, stating that if the minority's culture/ideas would just conform to the majority's culture/ideas, then everything would be okay and racism would not exist.  Then, the minority would be "deserving" of being treated as an equal or a citizen of the culture. This never works because: 1) all minority's do not think, dress or act the same; 2) it makes one minority responsible for the actions of others in their community (it is never a yt person's responsibility to police the action of other whites);  and 3) excuses the perpetrator in favor of blaming the victim.  

Also, people who dress and speak to those in the majority culture are still subject to racism.
It is similar to saying women should not wear short skirts because that invites rape.  I should not have to act or dress a certain way for you not to abuse me or subject me to racism.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug 11 2013 at 7:55am
This is "respectability politics."  Basically, stating that if the minority's culture/ideas would just conform to the majority's culture/ideas, then everything would be okay and racism would not exist.  Then, the minority would be "deserving" of being treated as an equal or a citizen of the culture. This never works because: 1) all minority's do not think, dress or act the same; 2) it makes one minority responsible for the actions of others in their community (it is never a yt person's responsibility to police the action of other whites);  and 3) excuses the perpetrator in favor of blaming the victim.  

Also, people who dress and speak to those in the majority culture are still subject to racism.
It is similar to saying women should not wear short skirts because that invites rape.  I should not have to act or dress a certain way for you not to abuse me or subject me to racism.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug 10 2013 at 7:22pm
Originally posted by bindy bindy wrote:

Don Lemon is on CNN now going in on Russell Simmons etc....




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug 10 2013 at 5:23pm
Originally posted by bindy bindy wrote:

Don Lemon is on CNN now going in on Russell Simmons etc....


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug 10 2013 at 5:09pm
Don Lemon is on CNN now going in on Russell Simmons etc....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 31 2013 at 6:07pm
Originally posted by CuteNSweet CuteNSweet wrote:

Ugggh sometimes I hate the fact that the "Black America" problem is always so televised to the whites.  Am I the only one that feels this way?  I feel like if you want to get that message across then you go in the hood and start picking up the litter over and over again until people follow suit, etc...  You basically be an example of it.    I don't see where he said anything, that people don't already know needs to be done one way or another, but those aren't the answers to "save" Black America.   The truth is no one is willing to do the "work" that is required to actually "save" black america in terms of us progressing.

I'm so tired of the black america problem being televised to those that are not black.   I love freedom of speech and youtube and stuff like that, but its getting a little bit out of hand.  I also don't understand why we have to point the finger at ourselves when an injustice was committed against us!   Like since Trayvon was killed by Zimmerman we have to take a look at black on black crime when it was not black on black crime.    True we should be working to better our communities everyday, but why couldn't Trayvon's issue be Trayvon's issue and racisim be just what it is?

Anyway, he doesn't want to address ending racisim.  No one does, because the only way you can end racism is to not have those that are oppressed have to depend on the racist system that is oppressing them in the first place.   Which means that the whole black and white together we shall overcome bullsh*t that the civil rights movement was for would have to shift to black self sufficiency.   Meaning our own neighborhoods, our own schools, our own banks, our own airlines, our own stores, etc....    You can never make anyone white do anything.  The only thing black people can do is commune and create their own system.  That is the only answer, there is no other way and sadly people are too interested in having their "rights" to open the white woman (I didn't say man b/c really it's the black men lusting after the forbidden fruit more so than the blk female), etc... to want that for the black community and of course we know the whites don't want it b/c that obliterates white privilege and the narcissism they live with of feeling like they are better than someone else.  Ugggh!




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 31 2013 at 5:58pm

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The issue at hand here is not respectability. Why many of us keep falling for this smokescreen is beyond me. Listen, respectability won’t save you. That’s not the issue at hand here. It is racism. Medgar Evers was a respectable man. He wore suits and was a wonderful orator. Guess what? He got murdered. MLK Jr. was a respectable, well dressed man and a wonderful speaker. Guess what? Didn’t prevent him from getting murdered. Oh, that’s the past you say? Well, Skip Gates is a Harvard professor. Guess what? Being a Harvard professor didn’t stop someone from assuming he was a burglar breaking into his own house. Gates is a grey-haired bespectacled Ivy-league professor who walks with a cane. He was wearing khakis and a polo shirt when they arrested his ass in his own home.

3. Furthermore, wearing sagging pants, saying “Brotha", not speaking “proper" English etc is not a license to be treated like dirt. You’re not a better human being because you’re well coiffed and can speak the Queen’s English. Congrats I guess, but being that way won’t address the issue at hand which is racism.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 31 2013 at 5:22pm
Ugggh sometimes I hate the fact that the "Black America" problem is always so televised to the whites.  Am I the only one that feels this way?  I feel like if you want to get that message across then you go in the hood and start picking up the litter over and over again until people follow suit, etc...  You basically be an example of it.    I don't see where he said anything, that people don't already know needs to be done one way or another, but those aren't the answers to "save" Black America.   The truth is no one is willing to do the "work" that is required to actually "save" black america in terms of us progressing.

I'm so tired of the black america problem being televised to those that are not black.   I love freedom of speech and youtube and stuff like that, but its getting a little bit out of hand.  I also don't understand why we have to point the finger at ourselves when an injustice was committed against us!   Like since Trayvon was killed by Zimmerman we have to take a look at black on black crime when it was not black on black crime.    True we should be working to better our communities everyday, but why couldn't Trayvon's issue be Trayvon's issue and racisim be just what it is?

Anyway, he doesn't want to address ending racisim.  No one does, because the only way you can end racism is to not have those that are oppressed have to depend on the racist system that is oppressing them in the first place.   Which means that the whole black and white together we shall overcome bullsh*t that the civil rights movement was for would have to shift to black self sufficiency.   Meaning our own neighborhoods, our own schools, our own banks, our own airlines, our own stores, etc....    You can never make anyone white do anything.  The only thing black people can do is commune and create their own system.  That is the only answer, there is no other way and sadly people are too interested in having their "rights" to open the white woman (I didn't say man b/c really it's the black men lusting after the forbidden fruit more so than the blk female), etc... to want that for the black community and of course we know the whites don't want it b/c that obliterates white privilege and the narcissism they live with of feeling like they are better than someone else.  Ugggh!
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