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    Posted: Dec 06 2013 at 9:02am
I am! I've trimmed off a total of 7 inches this year so far to thicken up my ends. I trimmed about 5.5 inches myself over a period of 6 months, and my mom did 1.5 for me earlier this year in february. The back half of my hair is starting to look a lot better but the front half still needs a lot of work. I'm still at tailbone though, but I find myself starting to get scissor happy lately (weird since I used to be so scared of em). I don't ever use heat and I've been transitioning to texlaxing (before I take the natural plunge) so I usually only keep track of my length while my hair is wet and weighted down by water. I'll post pics later.

Old length checks. Left pic is a couple months after I started seriously paying attention to my hair and actually taking care of it. Right pic is a year later before my self trims, right before I decided I really wanted to thicken up my ends and stop being afraid of scissors. 


Last "length check" on freshly washed wet hair. 10-30-2013. This is after all the trims.



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This thread has been pretty idle. Are you all still on the challenge?
The year is almost over, so I'm curious to see your progress. 
Haven't straightened my hair this year yet, but I think I might in about a week or 2. When I pull my hair down the longest strands reach tailbone, but it's not full tailbone yet. More important to me is where the hair actually hangs. I'm trying to remember where it used to hang last year (when straightened), but I dont really remember; I wish fotki would hurry up and put those pictures back online :)
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Quick update: I'm a little bit over 1.5 inch away from tailbone length. So it looks like I could make tailbone length at the end of this year, but it might be a close call.

I havent done anything exciting with my hair over the last few months, but it has gotten a little bit lighter over the summer. I might try and speed up the process some by starting honey/cinnamon treatments.

I haven't flat ironed my hair in 8 months now, and I'm thinking that I will refrain from straightening my hair until I reach tailbone length at the end of this year. I'm really looking forward to seeing the full length of my hair again.

Happy growings to all of you!
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you had said something about the benefits of the ppt treatment. The cuticles can get degraded particularly on the older hair. The ppt will bond to the cuticles and fill in the weak spots to help with length retention and the overall healthy appearance of the strands that all. Aphogee is fine for that post treatment.
Regarding the link the pic of my hair straightened ... make sure you do not put www in front of it
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/3038/february262013.jpg
I can't wait to see YOUR hair straightened !! Smile
PS I just uploaded my pic to my hairlista page. Feel free to friend me there Tongue
(it is February 26 photo)


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I still can't see it even with the link! >< but it's okay, don't worry about it.
 


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http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/3038/february262013.jpg

there is my picture again with the url   I will go by Sally's to see just what chemical is in my version now..I think you should be fine to put the protector on in whatever order you want especially if you have 2 people helping you, You will do GREAT!! 
I cant wait to see your results.

PS I see your point about not wanting to put any protector on any new growth so you should do it the way you feel most comfortable.


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I actually have two people helping me!
and I can't see the picture for some reason! D :
 
I'll change it to putting the protection cream first. I realize I didn't specify in the directions, but I am planning to apply the solution and then the protection cream on one strand at a time instead of applying one throughout the hair and then the other throughout the hair. applying both to one strand at a time is how I see most stylists do it, and it seems less work. but I'll apply the protection cream first on the strand and then the solution. then again, putting it one after the other throughout the hair does sound like a good way to apply the solution quicker, but I'm not sure, I'm concerned about the protectant getting on the virgin hair.
 
they might have changed the name because Japanese straighteners for color treated hair sometime uses a different chemical that's actually acidic, I forget the name. which is pretty amazing, a chemical straightener that isn't alkaline. maybe check the ingredients and see which chemical it's using?
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This is like 2 months after I did it last time. So this picture was back in February of this year. This was air dried then wrapped overnight.
When I went back into Sally's recently the label on the color treated version says Keratin treatment. I dont remember that being there previously. The stronger strengths still say Japanese straightener. So I dont know if they switched the color treated formula to keratin or if it was always keratin for my weaker strength. Now the Quantum I used the first time was definitely Japanese straightener in color treated.

It should NOT take you 30 minutes to apply the solution. If it does you will  need help to get it on quickly so it can process evenly. I do my applications within 5 minutes. I practice a lot by oiling scalp nightly and by coloring roots. I suggest you find a friend to help you  to get it on quickly if you think it will take you 30 minutes to apply cream to your roots. Since I can get it on my whole head within 5-7 minutes I start the timer then but I never usually left it on more than  20 minutes usually. I left the neutralizer on the whole time.

This product does not really burn the skin at all even in the first brand  I used (Quantum) which was definitely  Japanese straightener. I have never seen anyone leave it 1/3 inch off the scalp except one white stylist on youtube...maybe a little off the scalp but I personally think 1/3 inch off the roots is overkill. It could possibly leave you with too much texture at the roots.

You might want to go thru the hair and put the protection cream on the ends BEFORE you start the root application and let it dry in BEFORE you start. This way you can speed thru the root application and not have to worry about doing 2 steps while you are focusing  only on the roots.

I like the use of a porosity equalizer. You may also want to put a ppt /protein amino acid treatment on the ends if the porosity equalizer or the end protection cream doesnt have it. Like Shinbi - PPT Do Hair Treatment or similar. OR you can just use an ApHogee when you wash it a week later.

The rest of what you wrote sounds great. I am sure you will do fine. This is really not hard at all as long as you have someone to help you to get it on the roots quickly so it can process evenly.... Otherwise, if you have to do it alone you might want to do the back half of your head... rinse it out then do the front half of your head, rinse it out... and then proceed with flat ironing. 

He calls the neutralizer a developer.
I do not blow dry or flat iron mine after the treatment is complete. I put in the leave in conditioner in the box and just air dry personally That way I do not have to flat iron twice in one day.


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I'm most likely am going to be doing this this Saturday! I was wondering if you have a picture of your hair after the treatment? also, does the 30 minute processing time include the time it takes to apply the solution or is it 30 minutes after applying the solution? sorry about all the questions! ^^
 
what I'm doing changed since last time as I've done more research.
 

    (the week before straightening, henna gloss chemically treated hair since henna makes it harder for chemicals to penetrate the hair shaft. do not use any oily conditioners for 2-3 days; do not swim for 72 hours; do not drink caffeine for at least a few hours before the service (not sure why); do not exercise or wear a style that creates tension on scalp for 12-24 hours. patch test first try.)

  1. dry deep condition (or mask) new growth with roux ph corrector. use provided clarifying shampoo, plan apple cider rinse, and rinse out hair thoroughly. (it's important for hair cuticles to lay down. and clarifying raises the cuticle)

  2. rinse hair out thoroughly, apply provided leave-in and lightly spray zoto porosity equalizer. t-shirt dry and blowdry new growth. (hair cuticles must lay flat for best results, air-drying lifts cuticles)

  3. detangle hair to the point where a fine tooth point can pass, tie hair in about 8 sections, and clip up.

  4. moving fast and starting from back of head to front, apply japanese straghtening solution on virgin hair using application brush or fine tooth comb. saturate and smooth the hair using fingers. also, don't apply directly solution next to scalp, leave a 1/3 inch gap.  than apply milbon straight liscio hair protection cream on the previously treated parts of the strand using fine tooth comb. 

  5. let hair process using saran wrap or cap for, usually about 30 minutes.

  6. rinse processed roots thoroughly for 7 minutes with timer, lifting length (not so much that it disturbs processed roots) so that the chemical doesn't rinse though into the relaxed hair as much. it will feel thicker since the shaft of the hair has opened. rinse out rest of hair after.

  7. t-shirt dry hair (without wrapping it), lightly apply Zoro Porosity Equalizer throughout hair, and blowdry 80% (20% wet), pointing blow drier downwards.

  8. take your time with this step. divide hair into three large sections without clipping roots, back and sides. flat-ron skinny pieces of hair in a 90 degree angle from scalp. use chase method with fine tooth comb and ceramic iron on 400-450 degrees, going over three times, this step determines the straightness of the hair. use ceramic tourmaline iron on low heat throughout previously treated hair. (the whole head has to be flat ironed this point even though it's a retouch. this ad putting the neutralizer throughout all the hair is apparently what creates a stronger line of demarcation.)

  9. saturate whole head with neutralizing lotion and sit for 5-30 minutes.

  10. rinse neutralizer out for 7 minutes again.

  11. use provided leave-in and zoto porosity qualizer again. t-shirt dry (without wrapping), blow dry, and lightly flat-iron processed roots using ceramic tourmaline iron and brush chase method.

  12. use low ph products following wash.

  13. clear rinse hair in 2-4 weeks.

    (for 48-72 hours avoid humid environments, keep the hair down (no clips, tying, behind ears), do not wet hair, do not sleep on sides of head, don't sweat, avoid hats and scarves. For 7 days continue to keep hair down, avoid hats and scarves, avoid sea or chlorine water. For two weeks, just avoid sea and chlorine water. Always avoid sulfur shampoos and water that is too hot or too cold.)



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I never did a knot test with the product. I just took it off when it felt "right" / straight enough to me but not damaged ( I think it is up to 30 minutes ). You will do fine. Just keep the straightener off the ends Smile

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