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    Posted: Jan 01 2013 at 4:13am
wow! first off @mincefille, thanks for the information! very interesting stuff!

and i agree with people said about the college thing, i'm a junior i feel like the whole "virgin hair" thing popped over night. it's weird... i know of two girls selling hair on my campus that actually looks pretty legit! i wonder who their vendor is...


but one of them has ATROCIOUS prices though, i feel bad for all the people they sucker into buy from them :p they don't know that they can get it much cheaper.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov 08 2012 at 11:42pm
Originally posted by KurlieBeautie KurlieBeautie wrote:

The whole hair industry is slipping, all thanks to YouTube. The supply can't keep up with the demand, so we're seeing inconsistencies from the lowest end of BSS to the highest end, as people are complaining about the quality of brands like Bohyme and Bobby Boss.  Once the "virgin" quality hair was advertised and people became aware of Ali and AliE, all these independent hair "companies" formed the ENTIRE hair game went into the toilet. The prices for the best quality actual virgin hair skyrocketed. I'm beginning to think the only way to get best quality hair is to ask people I encounter if I can cut it off their heads. 

ETA:  I'm also living in a college town and I also noticed an upward trend in the HAIR quality of most of these girls walking around. I can see they're not wearing regular BSS, and they've learned to ombre it and everything. Too bad they haven't quite learned about closures. I see a lot of short, brittle, heat damaged, leave-outs on top of some decent looking hair. 

i see that all the time!!! Im in college right now and alot of these girls will pay $200+plus for their virgin hair but it does not blend at all their real hair is dry. The few girls i have seen with closures the bleaching is off. I feel like nobody knows how to blend their hair either. 

Ive actually talked to a few and asked how do they keep up with their hair.... ive gotten
dont wash it Stern Smile
no body deep conditions their hair or the weave
just put their "Moroccan oil" on it........ yes the Moroccan oil from walmart
ive even asked if they do protein treatments and they look at me crazy!

Its like buying a Mercedes Benz and not ever getting an oil change. It doesn't matter how much money you paid for the car/hair if you don't keep up with it it will NOT WORK. 

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Originally posted by 510QUEEN 510QUEEN wrote:

Yeah kurlie it's about to be a wrap


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov 08 2012 at 1:14pm
Originally posted by sugabanana sugabanana wrote:

Kurlie you are wrong for not showing those girls the way, truth and light. Natural on silky is a CRIME!!


Lol. Idgaf about these girls! They are among the pool that screwed the hair game for the rest of us. Plus they're in college and I only see them when I'm out and about on the main campus (rare). In my law school bubble, I still have the weave game on LOCK! WinkLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov 08 2012 at 1:12pm
Originally posted by mincefille mincefille wrote:

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Ok. first off, am on a trip right now in asia, and i will like to add a bit


Thank you for the info, lady! If all this is true, I suppose this info will provide info to help all of our AliE shopping. You're probably a reseller, (I apologize for my assumption, if you're not) but even if you are, and don't mind sharing any of the Segment 1 companies you've come across while over there in my PM box, I'd greatly appreciate it! Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov 08 2012 at 11:11am
I see the change definitely I used to be the one out of all my friends dropping bread on hair now they have caught on and I'm glad but they try to tell me where to buy hair i have to be like

The problem is they don't know how to care for it. and don't get me started on this "ombre" AKA Dip Dye in bleach. If I see one more half black then the bottom is blonde called ombre im going to die, it's supposed to FADE through several shades
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov 08 2012 at 10:33am
Originally posted by Mr Good Hair Mr Good Hair wrote:

Originally posted by LovesLace LovesLace wrote:



For now it is. Eventually the higher prices will cause most to go back to BSS hair which will continue to improve the quality at lower prices in order to compete.


I have to disagree with you there...
The quality of BSS/Indian Remy hair is not going to get any better...

If anything you'll just see the "better strands" of Indian Remy be sold at a DELUXE (practically virgin hair price point) which is already being done by some companies. Indian Remy Hair sold in fancy boxes with super high prices.

I would appreciate any information you can share with me via PM . I pay a small fortune for my EP , Wags, and Bliss Tribune Indian Virgin . TIA . Unhappy

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov 08 2012 at 10:18am
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For now it is. Eventually the higher prices will cause most to go back to BSS hair which will continue to improve the quality at lower prices in order to compete.


I have to disagree with you there...
The quality of BSS/Indian Remy hair is not going to get any better...

If anything you'll just see the "better strands" of Indian Remy be sold at a DELUXE (practically virgin hair price point) which is already being done by some companies. Indian Remy Hair sold in fancy boxes with super high prices.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov 07 2012 at 10:55pm
Originally posted by KurlieBeautie KurlieBeautie wrote:

The whole hair industry is slipping, all thanks to YouTube. The supply can't keep up with the demand, so we're seeing inconsistencies from the lowest end of BSS to the highest end, as people are complaining about the quality of brands like Bohyme and Bobby Boss.  Once the "virgin" quality hair was advertised and people became aware of Ali and AliE, all these independent hair "companies" formed the ENTIRE hair game went into the toilet. The prices for the best quality actual virgin hair skyrocketed. I'm beginning to think the only way to get best quality hair is to ask people I encounter if I can cut it off their heads.

ETA:  I'm also living in a college town and I also noticed an upward trend in the HAIR quality of most of these girls walking around. I can see they're not wearing regular BSS, and they've learned to ombre it and everything. Too bad they haven't quite learned about closures. I see a lot of short, brittle, heat damaged, leave-outs on top of some decent looking hair.
 
 
Ok. first off, am on a trip right now in asia, and i will like to add a bit
 
1. All the big chinese factories [not the small ones, at all] are very worriedand think there is some sh*tty crisis going on in the US as their sales have really slipped into the dept of the ground...hehehe.
 
***My explanation to them was...."there is no crisis when it comes to hair business. Just that the end users [mostly we african americans] are no longer buying such hair qualities that their biggesst customers [mostly Korean BSS Hair distributors] are selling" and "we would rather promote black businesses now, where we can get these higher grade hair quality'.
 
2. The prices of virgin hair have sky rocketed, and i must say that in China, the virgin hair market is divided in different segments and categories.
 
1. The manufacturer [hair collectors and processors and distributors]
2. The trading companies [processors and traders]
3. The sub trading companies.
 
Most of the companies BHMers deal with are on segment 2 and 3. Qingdao houses most of the segment 2 companies, and you are ricking finding real hair trully, but most non remy [fallen] hair sold as remy. There is a decuticling method of removing the cuticles, and then this hair material is mostly sold to qingdao factories by the hair collectors in segment 1.
   **** Trust me, all indian hair in china is non remy [fallen hair] believe it or not. but thats what it is. And if you are lucky to buy virgin hair from qingdao or guangzhou, then you are buying hair from multiple donors.
 
In qingdao, there are also many segment 3 companies, but ALL guangzhou vendores are segment 3 and buy the lowest quality hair from qingdao. Most of the guangzhou vendors dont sell 100g pieces, the sell 85g, and always make sure the hair is bundled with the black rrubber tie, that adds about 5g to the bundle. All guangzhou vendors buy hair with thin ends. There is no 1 hair factory in guangzhou.
 
The companies in segment 1, are mostly hair collectors, that usually will hackle the hairs and bundle in huge double drawns [made up of multiple donors hair] and sold to qingdao factories. But of recent segment 1 companies have started processing hairs [making into wefts, and extensions].
 
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Xuchang is another ball game where low quality, synthetic, mixed hair or low quality remy hair is supplied. These factories are the ones most hit by the above so called assumed crisis. Infact most of the biggest factories here are owned by Koreans or partly owned.
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Just my 2 cents.
 
***Note: I now know the suppliers for 2 popular AVs, amongst others too
 
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov 07 2012 at 5:04am
Yeah kurlie it's about to be a wrap
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