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Originally posted by noneyons noneyons wrote:

unfortunately, some of these poor kids have parents who can barely read and write themselves. 


This is very true. I don't know what can be done about that. I hate so much that it's a cycle. Some kids start off at such a disadvantage.
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Originally posted by SweetNovember* SweetNovember* wrote:


Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

Originally posted by SweetNovember* SweetNovember* wrote:

Is that too much to ask?


Yes considering equality in public schools is a myth.


Kids should know how to read before they start school tbh. These kids get no enrichment at home. There is no reason kids going to the same school should have such varying abilities. A teacher has 20+ kids in her class. She gives the lesson and kids are supposed to go home and practice. We all had schoolbooks. Whether we actually went home and read is what made the difference.


That's not the only problem...as stated, resources matter, the quality of the teacher and engaged pedagogy matters...if your community has low property wealth, the schools funding suffers. That's not equal. If more public schools operated like charter schools, things would be better. It's a given that children who have parents that engage them do better but schools also need to do a better job of picking up the slack. Standardized testing isn't standard and neither is the vanilla teaching style used.
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Originally posted by maysay1 maysay1 wrote:

Originally posted by Ladybird0724 Ladybird0724 wrote:

i'm just not seeing any sort of benefit to this bill.

even if this guy had kids, he wouldn't have to worry about his kids being successful in school b/c he has so many resources at his disposal that many who are on assistance do not have access to.

are they going to have a separate requirement for ppl who are receiving benefits that don't have children?




And what about the parents who don't receive assistance but their kids are failing in school? If we know that student failure makes them likely to be poor in the future and this is a war on poverty, then even parents who don't receive assistance should be getting some sort of punishment as well.




good point

i suppose that b/c one is on assistance, the gov't should be able to control other portions of ppls lives.

 when you as a child know that your parents are worrying about putting food on the table, or losing a house, or having to move into a shelter, then more than likely your mind is NOT on schoolwork and your performance in the classroom will suffer. i have had kids literally cry b/c they were too hungry to concentrate on their work. and these families were receiving assistance. take that away, and how does that help?

what about the families that has kids that are in school (say a 8yr old) and a 2yr old? the 2yr old would be affected b/c the 8yr old is not performing satisfactory in school. 

about 1 in 4 kids in TN are below the poverty line, and assuming that most are in a family that receive benefits, this would affect sooo many children

my thoughts are a little scattered...but i just don't care for this. this is hardly breaking the cycle on poverty.


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Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

Originally posted by Bunnyahh Bunnyahh wrote:

Originally posted by bg bg wrote:

You want a reaction/results...fck wit a nicca money LOL

and there it is folks.  I dont see how its any different from the schools that were paying kids to get good grades or the ones that were paying parents to go to PTA mtgs.  I believe we've had theads on both


the general sentiment from that thread was "how embarrassing"
No more embarrassing than failing, getting left back, being on welfare, or any of the other things that plague our communities.  Yet we take those things in stride like its nothing.  Like that Professor said, we arent ashamed of failure.  Wasn't it ur thread? 

He said: 'They have a culture that seems not to encourage achievement.

'Failure is not looked upon with disgrace.'

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Originally posted by SweetNovember* SweetNovember* wrote:

Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

Originally posted by SweetNovember* SweetNovember* wrote:

Is that too much to ask?


Yes considering equality in public schools is a myth.


Kids should know how to read before they start school tbh. These kids get no enrichment at home. There is no reason kids going to the same school should have such varying abilities. A teacher has 20+ kids in her class. She gives the lesson and kids are supposed to go home and practice. We all had schoolbooks. Whether we actually went home and read is what made the difference.


a child can get all the enrichment in the world at home before K (or preK) and not know how to read before school starts and that's ok. some things take time and learning to read is one of them.  many aren't developmentally ready to begin to read.

kids have such varying abilities due to how they are parented, what sort of learning support is going on at home, their development level, and other things. it's so many factors that go into it.

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I will repeat what I said in the frist topic yesterday . Every child learns at different level . The law will punish children for the acts of parent. Suprise no one put a big Repost sign on the topic lol . Clap
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University of Texas professor claims black students are failing because they are raised by poor single women

  • Law professor Lino Graglia has previously accused black culture of 'setting children up for failure'

A professor at the University of Texas has sparked outrage by claiming black students are failing academically because they have been raised in single parent homes usually by females.

Law professor Lino Graglia was talking to the BBC when he said he could 'hardly imagine a less beneficial or more deleterious experience than to be raised by a single parent, usually female, uneducated and without a lot of money.'

He said the average black performance on SAT test is 200 points lower than that for the average white student and that among the black population almost three quarters of children are now born outside of marriage.

Race row: Professor Graglia suggested that being raised in single parent families is affecting the academic performance of Black and Hispanic students

Race row: Professor Graglia suggested that being raised in single parent families is affecting the academic performance of Black and Hispanic students

The outspoken professor appeared slightly flustered when the BBC interviewer pointed out that he was black and raised in a single parent family himself.

But he continued: 'How well do these kids do in maths and reading is basically it and they do less well.

'And race or segregation or history wouldn't matter one bit if that was not the case.

'No doubt the race and segregation may have a lot to do why that's the case, but it is the case and what to do about it now?

'And admitting them into selective schools with large gaps in qualification is not the answer.'

Graglia is no stranger to controversy and was accused of racism in 1997 after telling a conservative student group that black and Mexican-American cultures 'set children up for failure'.

He said: 'They have a culture that seems not to encourage achievement.

'Failure is not looked upon with disgrace.'

In response the League of United Latin American Citizens demanded he resign issuing a resolution which stated: 'Graglia believes that minority students come from a culture of failure.

'He knows nothing of our culture and has never crawled down from his ivory tower to find out.

Graglia, who lectures at the University of Texas was accused of racism in 1997 after telling a conservative student group that black and Mexican-American cultures set children up for failure

Graglia, who lectures at the University of Texas was accused of racism in 1997 after telling a conservative student group that black and Mexican-American cultures 'set children up for failure'

'His lack of respect for the students who sit in his classes is unacceptable. His contempt for our leaders is intolerable.'

The University of Texas is currently fighting a legal battle in the Supreme Court with a white student who claims she was forced to go to a second-rate college as a result of the School's affirmative action program.

Despite graduating in the top 11 per cent of her class in 2008, Abigail Fisher was rejected from U.T. and 'forced to attend' Louisiana State University instead.

She has now taken her claim to the Supreme Court Fisher claiming that she was denied entrance into U.T. because she is white, and wasn't afforded the same career opportunities she'd have had otherwise.

She told the New York Times: 'I probably would have gotten a better job offer had I gone to U.T

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Originally posted by Bunnyahh Bunnyahh wrote:

Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

Originally posted by Bunnyahh Bunnyahh wrote:

Originally posted by bg bg wrote:

You want a reaction/results...fck wit a nicca money LOL

and there it is folks.  I dont see how its any different from the schools that were paying kids to get good grades or the ones that were paying parents to go to PTA mtgs.  I believe we've had theads on both


the general sentiment from that thread was "how embarrassing"
No more embarrassing than failing, getting left back, being on welfare, or any of the other things that plague our communities.  Yet we take those things in stride like its nothing.  Like that Professor said, we arent ashamed of failure.  Wasn't it ur thread? 

He said: 'They have a culture that seems not to encourage achievement.

'Failure is not looked upon with disgrace.'


Those were 2 different threads. I do think the culture surrounding welfare and poverty needs to change but I do not think this is the impetus that will foster that change.
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LoL @ LSU being a second rate school LMAO

I agree with the professor though.
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