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whoa im learning. keep going pink! My hair will be the test of this research because I have 4c that Low porosity and thats nice and soft when wet but the opposite when it dries. Once I find a good reggie then i'm sticking to it.
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Notice how see through wet line is. no gel should be that clear.
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Btw, I wanted to add one last thing about relaxers, in relation to the lye forming gels. Just because your hair seems to do fine with relaxers, doesn't mean your hair "likes" it, or is healthy. I hear this a lot. A person gets a relaxer and their hair gets a little past their shoulders and looks thick, so they say, "my hair likes relaxers".

One thing that needs to be understood is that just because your hair has a high toleration of something, doesn't mean it likes it. relaxers still eat holes in your hair cuticle, it's just some people have strong enough hair to withstand it. Their hair is still getting damaged, the effects are happening slower. You should actually take that as a sign that once you cut the depilatory relaxers, your hair would probably end up past waist length in 4 years. Basically if you think your hair is healthy now, with all the dissolved areas of your cuticle, it would probably grow like weeds after going natural(unless your hair care practices are extremely backward) while ur cuticles are at their highest potential.

It's like stabbing two different people and saying the one that took longer to keel over likes getting stabbed. I know it seems random, but i was thinking about it when i had that ridiculous troll-fest on naturally curly and this woman claimed lye relaxers do not eat hair because her hair does fine. If your hair loves it so much, try re-relaxing hair you already processed and see how much your hair loves it as it falls into the sink. Even more tolerating hair types have their limit.

On that note, consider that if you use a gel like wet line or ecostyler often, the effects accumulate over time, similar to the way relaxing the same pre-relaxed hair over and over causes over processing and dissolving and breakage. Some people will be "over processed" faster than others, where they just get a bald spot(like i did), others will be effected slower, maybe finding their ends breaking off and have trouble retaining length.


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Hi Pinkecube.  Never really used gel before, approx 2-3x this year.  However, started using the eco styler that I had on this method.  KCCC is not affordable right now, but what other gels can you recommend that can last a while and doesn't cost the earth foryour UK subscribers?  Can I use flaxseed gel instead?  Only trouble is when I used it a couple of times for twist outs, it cause a little flakiness.  I think this could have been down to how I was using it on the following days i.e applying on dry hair?  I don't know.  Been trying to put a recipe together but just researching a few mucilaginous botanicals.Smile
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Wow, glad I saw this post.
I have ecostyler gel which I've used on my hair, and I almost rebought some.
I'm gonna trash this stuff.Dead
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It really upsets me how people can use ecostyler religiously and still get great results like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W5cCxAIZOE

meanwhile if I use it my hair is dry and brittle. I hope I can get hair like his from doing the MHM, but I think his hair is a different texture than mine so we'll see.
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Originally posted by AmberColour AmberColour wrote:

Wow, glad I saw this post.
I have ecostyler gel which I've used on my hair, and I almost rebought some.
I'm gonna trash this stuff.Dead


I'm glad i could help AmberColour.
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Originally posted by aharri23 aharri23 wrote:

It really upsets me how people can use ecostyler religiously and still get great results like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W5cCxAIZOE

meanwhile if I use it my hair is dry and brittle. I hope I can get hair like his from doing the MHM, but I think his hair is a different texture than mine so we'll see.


I believe his hair is high porosity. Similar to "Mahogany Curl's" (youtube) texture and she also says she is high porosity. She used eco styler gel religiously as well, and her hair is extremely healthy. when i tried to copy that, I got crunchy potato chip hair, thinning, and bald spot galore(no shedding, showing my hair was dissolved the way over processed relaxed hair dissolves) . I realized it was the denatured alcohol (TEA) after trying different gels of the similar symptoms and still having breakage.

That's why i was so angry to even have a bunch of white people with 2c and 3b hair (i thought the one woman was biracial because she said she had relaxers, but actually white people relax their hair a lot as well and her hair looked like a white person's in her avatar) were basically denying my existence because those ingredients didn't effect them. To the point where they were trying to act like the offended victims.

 I was polite the whole time, and they just kept questioning me trying to find what i was doing wrong but i experimented up and down and around the town with that gel. I mixed it with shea butter before layering it over my conditioner, which i used heavy amounts of. I mixed it with acv to lower the ph. I mixed it with water. I mixed it with conditioner. I tried only using it for my edges. I tried only using it for twist outs. I tried switching to a gel without protein. But that wasn't good enough. It's my hair, not the product. I have a "problem that i should go to the dermatologist for". Even though i repeated over and over and over again that the baldspot stopped getting bigger when i stopped using the gel. And now it is grown back in because of GHE and the Max Hydration Method.

 They wanted to undermine me and make it seem like i have no common sense or something. They were disgusting and hostile because i was sharing my experience. And then one of their left over flea trolls tried to dance their way back over here and spread some more bull. And i know some of them stalked me on Amazon and thumbed down my review. One of them even admitted she had a "friend" that works for the company i was complaining about. But i think she simply worked for the company.


I was pissed to say the least. But i'm glad i didn't put my precious hair to waste and figured out the reason why after all this time. And i'm gonna let people know about it, they are not gonna smother me as i am telling the truth and have done the required research.


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Originally posted by aharri23 aharri23 wrote:

It really upsets me how people can use ecostyler religiously and still get great results like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W5cCxAIZOE

meanwhile if I use it my hair is dry and brittle. I hope I can get hair like his from doing the MHM, but I think his hair is a different texture than mine so we'll see.
Wow, yeah, his hair turned out great.
When the video first started I thought he had a different hair type, but I think his is similar to mine.
But not sure.
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Glad you found something that worked for you!
And you are around commonfolk here.Smile
I really do want to try the MHM hopefully soon.
I'll post my results in your thread when that happens.

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