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MissinCali
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Posted: Nov 07 2012 at 1:29pm |
Did President Obama get Florida yet?
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kfoxx1998
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Posted: Nov 07 2012 at 1:37pm |
WTH is wrong with Florida  ? NJ and NY were devastated and still recovering from a terrible storm and they were STILL called last night before OHIO came. That must be embarrassing.
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PurplePhase
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Posted: Nov 07 2012 at 1:44pm |
I read that Los Angeles voted (passed) to required use of condoms in Pornography films and some in the industry are mad and saying they will leave LA and go elsewhere.
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PurplePhase
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Posted: Nov 07 2012 at 1:45pm |
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kkscottdale
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Posted: Nov 07 2012 at 1:50pm |
PurpleHaze wrote:
I read that Los Angeles voted (passed) to required use of condoms in Pornography films and some in the industry are mad and saying they will leave LA and go elsewhere.
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lumii18
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Alias_Avi
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Posted: Nov 07 2012 at 1:58pm |
Slate wrote:
Why [Did] White People Think Mitt Romney Should Be President?
Parsing the narrow, tribal appeal of the Republican nominee.
By Tom Scocca|Posted
Friday, Nov. 2, 2012, at 4:56 PM ET
Mitt Romney's election strategy depends on the notion that the white vote is separate from the rest of the vote
I'm voting for Barack Obama on Election Day. This fact will appear on Slate's list of which candidates its writers are voting for, a list which will almost certainly look like the 2008 list,
which is to say an almost unbroken string of "Obama." People will look
at this list—Obama, Obama, Obama, Obama—and they will say, Look at the Slate writers, inside their bubble.
And they will be wrong. There is a real, airtight bubble in this
election, but it's not Obama's. As a middle-aged white man, in fact, I'm
breaching it. White people—white men in particular—are for Mitt Romney.
White men are supporting Mitt Romney to the exclusion of logic or
common sense, in defiance of normal Americans. Without this narrow,
tribal appeal, Romney's candidacy would simply not be viable. Most kinds
of Americans see no reason to vote for him.
Obama has a deficit of 23 percentage
points, trailing Republican Mitt Romney 60 percent to 37 percent among
whites, according to the latest Washington Post-ABC News
national tracking poll. That presents a significant hurdle for the
president—and suggests that he will need to achieve even larger margins
of victory among women and minorities, two important parts of the
Democratic base, to win reelection.
That's not polarized. Polarization would mean that various races were
mutually pulling apart, toward their favored candidates. "Minorities"
is not a race (nor, you may have noticed, is "women"). Minorities and
women are the people standing still, while white men run away from them.
What is it with these white men? What are they seeing that ordinary
people don't see? What accounts for this ... secession of theirs, from
the rest of America? John Sununu, Romney's campaign co-chair, responded to Colin Powell's endorsement of Obama
by saying, "I think that when you have somebody of your own race that
you're proud of being president of the United States—I applaud Colin for
standing with him."
Sununu was trying to be snide. But there he is, standing with Mitt Romney. Just like Donald Trump and Clint Eastwood and Buzz Bissinger and Meat Loaf—one aging white man after another. It's a study in identity politics.
White people don't like to believe that they practice identity
politics. The defining part of being white in America is the assumption
that, as a white person, you are a regular, individual human being.
Other demographic groups set themselves apart, to pursue their
distinctive identities and interests and agendas. Whiteness, to white
people, is the American default.
Romney’s camp is focused intently on
capturing at least 61 percent of white voters. That would provide him a
slim national majority—so long as whites constitute at least 74 percent
of the vote, as they did last time, and Obama doesn’t improve on his 80
percent showing with minorities.
Again, why are "minorities" treated as a bloc here? The story
mentions no particular plan by the Obama campaign to capture the
nonwhite vote. Instead, it discusses how the Romney forces hope to get a
bigger share of white voters than John McCain did—by "stressing the
increased federal debt" and attacking "Obama's record on spending and
welfare."
Welfare, yes. Let's come back to "welfare." But first, how's the strategy been doing? A recent ABC/Washington Post poll
found Romney leading Obama 65-32 among white men and 53-44 among white
women, giving him a 59 percent share of the white vote overall—"a new
high," and closing in on that 60 percent target.
This has been the foundation of Republican presidential politics for
more than four decades, since Richard Nixon courted and won the votes of
Southerners who'd turned against the Democratic Party because of
integration and civil rights. The Party of Lincoln became the party of
Lincoln's assassins, leveraging white anger into a regional advantage
and eventually a regional monopoly. It's all very basic and old news,
but it's still considered rude to say so, even as Republican
strategists talk about winning the white voters and only the white
voters.
And so we have two elections going on. In one, President Obama is
running for re-election after a difficult but largely competent first
term, in which the multiple economic and foreign-policy disasters of
four years ago have at least settled down into being ongoing economic
and foreign-policy problems. A national health care reform bill got
passed, and two reasonable justices were appointed to the Supreme Court.
Presidents have done worse in their first terms. In my lifetime—which
began under the first term of an outright thug and war criminal—I'm not sure any presidents have done better. (The senile demagogue? The craven panderer? The ex-CIA director?)
In the other election, the election scripted for white
voters—honestly, I'm not entirely sure what the story is. Republican
campaigns have been using dog-whistle signals for so long that they seem
to have forgotten how to make sounds in normal human hearing range.
Mitt Romney appears to be running on the message that first of all,
Obama hasn't accomplished anything, and second of all, he's going to
repeal all the bad things that Obama has accomplished. And then Romney
himself, as a practical businessman, is going to ... something
something, small business, something, restore America, growth and jobs,
tax cuts, something. It's a negative campaign in the pictorial sense: a
blank space where the objects would go. A white space, if you will.
The passion comes from what Romney is running against. For more than
four years, without pause, Republicans have been campaigning and
propagandizing against an imaginary Obama. At the most grotesque end of
the fantasies, he is a foreign-born, anti-colonialist Muslim. In more
reputable precincts, he is a power-mad socialist and a dumb
affirmative-action baby, promoted all the way to the presidency by a
race-crazed, condescending liberal elite. (As if the presidency of the Harvard Law Review
were awarded to anyone but the hungriest shark in the shark tank.) This
is the position of the party's mandarins and reputable spinners—that
Obama was foisted off on regular Americans against their will, despite
all those votes last time around.
Hence the baiting of Obama, throughout his term, for supposedly being
unable to speak without a teleprompter. Republicans predicted, over and
over, that the president would be exposed and humiliated in
face-to-face debate with an opponent (Newt Gingrich especially
fantasized about being that foe). Eventually this led to Clint Eastwood
haranguing the empty chair. And then in the first presidential debate,
Obama was slack and ineffectual against a sharp Romney. See? It was
true!
And then Obama shredded Romney in the second debate, and kept cuffing
him around in the third. Now Romney was the deflating balloon,
wild-eyed and babbling and licking his dry mouth in desperation. From
which Peggy Noonan—whose proudest credential is having written the
scripts for a Republican president who couldn't function without being
fed his lines—concluded in the Wall Street Journal that the only meaningful debate was the first one.
"Nothing echoes out like that debate," Noonan wrote, creating her own
echoes. The president was "Petulant, put upon, above it all, full of
himself." Full of himself. "[H]is failure seemed to underscore
the cliché that the prompter is a kind of umbilical cord for him." ("He
is not by any means a stupid man," she added.)
So it was that Romney, speaking to ultra-wealthy supporters
in what might have been the Whitest Room in America, ventured a joke
about his father's birth in Mexico: "And had he been born of Mexican
parents, I'd have a better shot at winning this, but he was [audience
laughs] unfortunately born of Americans living in Mexico." Note that
"Americans" is a synonym for "whites," here. Note also that a room full
of millionaires—a minority group that has dominated presidential
politics in recent decades—believes that the true political advantage in
this country belongs to children of Mexican immigrants.
If there's one thing white people have learned from decades of being
targeted by campaigns, it's that someone, somewhere, is trying to cheat
them. This is the idea behind Romney's 47 percent remarks in that
appearance—America is divided between regular, productive folks and the
people who are victimizing them.
There are 47 percent of the people who
will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47
percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe
that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility
to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to
food, to housing, to you name it. That that's an entitlement. And the
government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president
no matter what. And I mean, the president starts off with 48, 49, 48—he
starts off with a huge number. These are people who pay no income tax.
Forty-seven percent of Americans pay no income tax. So our message of
low taxes doesn't connect. And he'll be out there talking about tax cuts
for the rich. I mean that's what they sell every four years. And so my
job is not to worry about those people—I'll never convince them that
they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.
Here, Romney is speaking fluent White. In white people's political
English, "personal responsibility" is the opposite of "handouts," "food
stamps," and particularly "welfare," all of which are synonyms for
"Brotha Mans." This was Ronald Reagan's rallying cry, and it was the
defining issue for traumatized post-Reagan white Democrats. Like George Wallace vowing not to be out-Brotha Maned again, the Democratic Leadership Council and the New Republic and Bill Clinton made Ending Welfare as We Know It the policy centerpiece of the 1990s.
The actual policy never mattered. Now the Romney campaign is running ads in Ohio saying that Obama "gutted the work requirement for welfare"
and "doubled the number of able-bodied adults without children on food
stamps." In mixed company, Romney glosses the food-stamp lines as
concern about the country's economic status, but that's not why "work
requirement" and "able-bodied" are in there. It's the rusty old
Confederate bugle, blown one more time.
At the end of the National Journal piece about Romney's
white-vote goals, a Republican strategist acknowledged the campaign was
hanging its hopes at a shrinking target: "This is the last time anyone
will try to do this." This is a demographic proposition rather than a
moral one: The GOP will end its get-out-the-white-vote strategy whenever
it stops working. Maybe, with luck, this will be the final sounding of
that bugle.
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jonesable
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Posted: Nov 07 2012 at 2:00pm |
White ppl just gonna have to come to grips with reality.
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jonesable
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Posted: Nov 07 2012 at 2:12pm |
Lol I'm not ready to put it out there to be critiqued yet. I'm reviewing some of the Bush/Kerry number and want to cross compare them with the numbers of this election.
What I feel about education and the effect it can have on perspective has alot to do with it. Also something about income/debt/status/certain professions attracting certain types of ppl.
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