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Originally posted by alynxx alynxx wrote:

I can't believe that people tried to deny that white slave masters would do that - humans can do evil things in the name of sport.
 
This is really what is hard to grasp. I can believe that a couple of human can do evil things but the these yt people were animals with no conscience, the vast majority of them. The amount of destruction that they have created all over the world is just mind blowing.
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Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

Originally posted by newdiva1 newdiva1 wrote:

I didn't realize folks denied it.   I guess I need to go back and read it again.

one particular young lady said to me 'where is it in history?' to which i quipped, 'its where the rest of your history lies'



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Considering that yts considered slaves property and not people, and taking into consideration how they tortured Black people, why was mandingo fighting so hard to believe?Confused
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Interesting that people denied it.
White people did it to their own people so...
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Originally posted by carolina cutie carolina cutie wrote:

Considering that yts considered slaves property and not people, and taking into consideration how they tortured Black people, why was mandingo fighting so hard to believe?Confused
Apparently they believe that slaveowners valued their property so much they wouldn't "waste" it to fights.

Here's the Slate article were people denying it and challenging those who totally believed it happened:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2012/12/24/django_unchained_mandingo_fighting_were_any_slaves_really_forced_to_fight.html#
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I finally found the reference.

It is from American Slavery As It Is: Testimony of A Thousand Witnesses

This is the testimony of Messrs. T.D.M. and F.C. Macy

"I have known negro boys, partly by persuasion, and partly by force, made to strip off their clothing and fight for the amusement of their masters. They would fight until both got to crying."
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I heard this really happened, but the recounted stories are heart-wrenching. 
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Title: Slave Narratives: A Folk History of Slavery in the United States from Interviews with Former Slaves, Arkansas Narratives, Part 4

Author: Work Projects Administration

Release Date: April 24, 2008 [EBook #25154]

Interviewer: Samuel S. Taylor
Person interviewed: Lula Jackson
1808 Valentine Street, Little Rock, Arkansas
Age: 79?

"My mama's first husband was killed in a rasslin' (wrestling) match. It used to be that one man would walk up to another and say, 'You ain't no good.' And the other one would say, 'All right, le's see.' And they would rassle.

"My mother's first husband was pretty old. His name was Myers. A young man come up to him one Sunday morning when they were gettin' commodities. They got sorghum, meat, meal, and flour; if what they got wasn't enough, then they would go out and steal a hog. Sometime they'd steal it anyhow; they got tired of eatin' the same thing all the time. Hurt would whip them for it. Wouldn't let the overseer whip them. Whip them hisself. 'Fraid the overseer wouldn't give them enough. They never could find my grandfather's meat. That was Grandfather William Down. They couldn't find his meat because he kept it hidden in a hole in the ground. It was under the floor of the cabin.

"Old Myers made this young man rassle with him. The young fellow didn't want to rassle with him; he said Myers was too old. Myers wasn't my father; he was my mother's first husband. The young man threw him. Myers wasn't satisfied with that. He wanted to rassle again. The young man didn't want to rassle again. But Myers made him. And the second time, the young man threw him so hard that he broke his collar-bone. My mother was in a family way at the time. He lived about a week after that, and died before the baby was born.



http://www.gutenberg.org/files/25154/25154-h/25154-h.htm

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The slaves' status as human beings was further attacked by barbaric practices such as castration and the removal of limbs for small infractions, which physically incapacitated slaves who were already suffering from hellish psychological torment and indoctrination, at the hands of slave owners. Practices such as battles royals, in which groups of slaves were pitted against each other in fights for no apparent reason other than to entertain and satisfy bets between slave owners, on which group would win. In other instances slaves were pitted against each other in human cockfights, sometimes to the death. Brutal contests, which were sometimes witnessed by other slaves, would reinforce their psychological acceptance of their status as lesser beings.

http://voices.yahoo.com/the-psychological-effects-slavery-colonization-3349634.html?cat=37
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