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    Posted: Feb 21 2014 at 3:06pm
in both scenarios the choices are 1) do nothing 2) act

i dont really want to know which is the correct choice (of course you can) but rather are these two cases the same or different?



1. There is a runaway trolley barreling down the railway tracks. Ahead, on the tracks, there are five people tied up and unable to move. The trolley is headed straight for them. You are standing some distance off in the train yard, next to a lever. If you pull this lever, the trolley will switch to a different set of tracks. Unfortunately, you notice that there is one person on the side track. You do not have the ability to operate the lever in a way that would cause the trolley to derail without loss of life (for example, holding the lever in an intermediate position so that the trolley goes between the two sets of tracks, or pulling the lever after the front wheels pass the switch, but before the rear wheels do).




2. A brilliant transplant surgeon has five patients, each in need of a different organ, each of whom will die without that organ. Unfortunately, there are no organs available to perform any of these five transplant operations. A healthy young traveler, just passing through the city the doctor works in, comes in for a routine checkup. In the course of doing the checkup, the doctor discovers that his organs are compatible with all five of his dying patients. Suppose further that if the young man were to disappear, no one would suspect the doctor.


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How many of the five people in each scenario are black?
This is very important. 
Cause if everybody is white I'mma just pretend like I ain't see sh*t. 
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you didnt read the question did you?
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I would not do anything for the first one. I know logic would say let one person die vs. five, but if I pull the lever, I'd be a murderer who chose to kill whereas if I do nothing, I'm a helpless bystander.

In scenario 2, I would act to make sure the doctor was arrested if he killed that young man. 
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They're different. 
One someone is going to die regardless.
The second is you killing someone. 
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Oh and the cases are different. 

Not really sure what the second was asking. Should we act as in reporting the doctor or are we supposed to be the doctor? But I still view them as different. Case 1 is a complete tragedy whereas Case 2 is vindictive.
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Originally posted by Sang Froid Sang Froid wrote:

They're different. 
One someone is going to die regardless.
The second is you killing someone. 


in both cases someone will die
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I believe the same, because in both situations you're given the capability to choose who lives.
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Originally posted by femmemichelle femmemichelle wrote:

Oh and the cases are different. 

Not really sure what the second was asking. Should we act as in reporting the doctor or are we supposed to be the doctor? But I still view them as different. Case 1 is a complete tragedy whereas Case 2 is vindictive.


no, act as in taking one life to save 5
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Originally posted by Sang Froid Sang Froid wrote:

How many of the five people in each scenario are black?
This is very important. 
Cause if everybody is white I'mma just pretend like I ain't see sh*t. 


damn all of youLOL  if it makes it easier to answer all people involved are black...smh
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