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Originally posted by gigglemey gigglemey wrote:

Hi everyone!!Big smile ahhh I am so floored! I found this forum last week and soaking everything in.
Just made my account right now, so I apologize if it ends up in the wrong spot lol. I made it a point to read all 240 pgs of this post before saying anything and I am glad I did because now I only have one question.

Before beginning MHM should I shampoo? Or no since it is drying to the hair?

I am not sure how to classify myself but I have been CG past couple years using a poobar for wash days but this year I went "water only" because I still had dry hair especially on wash days. so my hair hates shampoo but it also hates cowashes and after 3 months of water only and doing acv rinses my hair felt even worse plus coated and it started breaking so i did aphogee 2 step (the only protein I have ever used in a few years bcuz my ends were very weak and not curling) but even after that its just dry. so I went trying to find a moisturizing product this past month and have used silicones and petroleum and such on my hair in attempt to seal in moisture.

After reading everything here the dryness makes sense I just really hate shampooing my hair my roots are really puffy and matted everytime i do it and my ends take a few days to start curling again. Idk my hair type all I see is some parts are curls but not tiny or zig zaggy but overall i have a barely curled fro lol but I am definitely low porosity. I did the test and my hair floats, it also turns white with conditioner and its just drrrrrry like this desert I live in.


Oh, sorry second question. bcuz I did do the aphogee 2 step with the hydrolyzed keratin in it, I should skip the cherry lola treatment right...???


Welcome to the thread. You don't need to shampoo. The clay will remove toxins, silicones, etc from your hair.

I don't know about the protein. I will leave that for pinkecube or msdeekay.
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Originally posted by afrolistic afrolistic wrote:

I just wanna take dis time out to thank you pinke and msddee and everyone on dis forum. I can to dis forum frustrated and ready to give up on my natural hair journey. Infact i bought a texturizer watching youtube videos on how to texturize. My hair has changed tremendously and im now loving and enjoying my hair. I hav just one question. My hair is very short so i twist it after applying da geland everythin looks great. Bt da next day when im untwisting it
. This small particles of white stuff coming from ma hair to my cloth.and i amy hair looks dirty with dis whitish stuff. I think it from da gel flaking. So what can i do to help. I already dilute my gel.


Hopefully so one can answer your question soon. I don't know. I've never had flakes. Not sure why. I apply my leave in and put on a plastic cap for 10/minutes to help it absorb. Not sure it will help but maybe it will help someone.
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I would like to begin this method with my next wash.

I just don't have the conditioners on the list.  Would Coco Curls conditioner work?  The ingredients are below.

Purified Water (and) Equisetum arvense (Horsetail) Leaf Extract (and) Salvia officinalis (Sage) Leaf Extract (and) Urtica urens (Nettle) Leaf Extract (and) Rosemarinus officinalis (Rosemary) Leaf Extract (and) Matricaria recutita (Chamomile) Flower Extract (and) Lavandula angustifolia (Lavender) Flower Extract, Behentrimonium Methosulfate (and) Cetearyl Alcohol, Jojoba Oil, Glycine Betaine (Beta vulgaris (Beet)) Sugar Extract, Cocoa Butter, Castor Oil,Argan Oil,Panthenol, Propanediol, Gluconolactone (and) Sodium Benzoate, Fragrance Oil.
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Originally posted by crimsoncoil crimsoncoil wrote:

I would like to begin this method with my next wash.

I just don't have the conditioners on the list.  Would Coco Curls conditioner work?  The ingredients are below.

Purified Water (and) Equisetum arvense (Horsetail) Leaf Extract (and)
Salvia officinalis (Sage) Leaf Extract (and) Urtica urens (Nettle) Leaf
Extract (and) Rosemarinus officinalis (Rosemary) Leaf Extract (and)
Matricaria recutita (Chamomile) Flower Extract (and) Lavandula
angustifolia (Lavender) Flower Extract, Behentrimonium Methosulfate
(and) Cetearyl Alcohol, Jojoba Oil, Glycine Betaine (Beta vulgaris
(Beet)) Sugar Extract, Cocoa Butter, Castor Oil,Argan Oil,Panthenol,
Propanediol, Gluconolactone (and) Sodium Benzoate, Fragrance Oil.


Do you have everything else you need? Clay? Baking soda or acv depending on which one you are using?

If so use the conditioner you have and work on getting an approved conditioner. I know panthenol is a no no product but it is also low on the list. Not sure about the products after the panthenol.
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Originally posted by solomonsydelle solomonsydelle wrote:

Originally posted by gigglemey gigglemey wrote:

Hi everyone!!Big smile ahhh I am so floored! I found this forum last week and soaking everything in.
Just made my account right now, so I apologize if it ends up in the wrong spot lol. I made it a point to read all 240 pgs of this post before saying anything and I am glad I did because now I only have one question.

Before beginning MHM should I shampoo? Or no since it is drying to the hair?

I am not sure how to classify myself but I have been CG past couple years using a poobar for wash days but this year I went "water only" because I still had dry hair especially on wash days. so my hair hates shampoo but it also hates cowashes and after 3 months of water only and doing acv rinses my hair felt even worse plus coated and it started breaking so i did aphogee 2 step (the only protein I have ever used in a few years bcuz my ends were very weak and not curling) but even after that its just dry. so I went trying to find a moisturizing product this past month and have used silicones and petroleum and such on my hair in attempt to seal in moisture.

After reading everything here the dryness makes sense I just really hate shampooing my hair my roots are really puffy and matted everytime i do it and my ends take a few days to start curling again. Idk my hair type all I see is some parts are curls but not tiny or zig zaggy but overall i have a barely curled fro lol but I am definitely low porosity. I did the test and my hair floats, it also turns white with conditioner and its just drrrrrry like this desert I live in.


Oh, sorry second question. bcuz I did do the aphogee 2 step with the hydrolyzed keratin in it, I should skip the cherry lola treatment right...???



Hey gigglemey! I'm sure someone will chime in with more information, but until then allow me to say welcome!

Per
shampoo - if you have used silicones recently, I'm tempted to recommend
a shampoo wash to get some of that off your strands. It could affect
how quickly you get to max hydration, unfortunately. Pinke previously noted that BS or ACV will not get
rid of cones.

Have you purchased your MHM-recommended products
yet? If
the answer is yes, I would shampoo and apply an
approved conditioner. Then, I would follow up, the next day, with an
ACV/BS rinse, co-wash, clay, leave-in, gel and continue the method everyday for the 7-day challenge or whatever you can do. I'd hold off on the CL
treatment until 2-4 weeks have passed or until you think your hair could
do with a little protein boost.

If you can wait for Pinke or
Msdeekay to chime in, please do. One of them, or another MHMer might
give you an alternative approach.

Whatever the case, good luck! Big smile


Hi gigglemey, welcome!
I will throw my 2 cents in
I agree with solomonsydelle, I’d recommend washing your hair with shampoo if you’ve previously used heavy or silicone based products.
I’ve never tried the aphogee but my understanding is that it is a 2 step protein treatment, and the CL treatment is a mild protein treatment, therefore I agree with solomonsydelle again and not complete the cherry lola treatment at this time, you may go into protein overload lol.. hths

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Originally posted by DenzKoils DenzKoils wrote:

Originally posted by afrolistic afrolistic wrote:

I just wanna take dis time out to thank you pinke and msddee and everyone on dis forum. I can to dis forum frustrated and ready to give up on my natural hair journey. Infact i bought a texturizer watching youtube videos on how to texturize. My hair has changed tremendously and im now loving and enjoying my hair. I hav just one question. My hair is very short so i twist it after applying da geland everythin looks great. Bt da next day when im untwisting it
. This small particles of white stuff coming from ma hair to my cloth.and i amy hair looks dirty with dis whitish stuff. I think it from da gel flaking. So what can i do to help. I already dilute my gel.


Hopefully so one can answer your question soon. I don't know. I've never had flakes. Not sure why. I apply my leave in and put on a plastic cap for 10/minutes to help it absorb. Not sure it will help but maybe it will help someone.


I will try to answer...are you using a conditioner and gel from the recommended listing, if so, are you diluting the conditioner sufficiently? the white flakes may be due to too much conditioner especially if you are already diluting the gel. I've not experienced this, so perhaps someone else that may have had this issue can chime in in Pinkecube and Ms. DeeKay absence?
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Originally posted by aharri23 aharri23 wrote:

Originally posted by Crownstar Crownstar wrote:

Questions:
Hair gels. Has anyone tried any of The other gels on the recommended list. I'm just about out of the kinky curly and thought I would try a new gel. If so please let me know your thoughts. I am still working on perfecting the flax seed gel recipe. It gave me great hold but seem to make my hair dry.

Aharri: I watched your video on the green tea gel do you like. Have you tried any other gels you recommend?

Tallbeautie: I know you received the Tresemme from the giveaway, have you had a chance to try it hopefully you like it. Hopefully the international giveaway winner will get theirs soon international shipping takes a while.


Hey Crownstar, I ran out of KCCC so ive been using my Green tea curl glaze. I'm starting to like it more and more. It gives the same definition as KCCC, but takes less time to dry, so I like it for that reason. I have to order it online though, which sucks. I've tried the herbal hair styling gel twice, but It's nothing special. I'll have to use it more then report back


Hi Aharri, thanks for your feedback; I think I may give the Green tea curl glaze a try; especially if it will help with drying time as winter is approaching (not that soon in FL though lol) I agree I don't like that you can't get it on the ground...its a pain to order products online, especially if I like it!
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Originally posted by nothidden nothidden wrote:

Originally posted by Crownstar Crownstar wrote:

Questions:
Hair gels. Has anyone tried any of The other gels on the recommended list. I'm just about out of the kinky curly and thought I would try a new gel. If so please let me know your thoughts. I am still working on perfecting the flax seed gel recipe. It gave me great hold but seem to make my hair dry.
Hi, Crownstar. I use Herbal Choice Mari Hair Styling GEL and I like it. My TWA dries in a few hrs. I experience NO flaking or whiteness even though my conditioner mix is quite foam. I'm not fond of gel, so won't be much of a junkie like I am w/the approved conditioners.   I used Giovanni and it was a hard, drying experience for me. Wasn't able to make flax seed gel this weekend but still plan to. Flax seeds are just SO healthy.


Hi nothidden, thanks for the info...I will check into the Herbal Choice Hair styling gel, that one was not on my radar. It's a shame that it appears that the only gel product readily available is Kinky Curly. It looks like all others I would need to order - -I know there is a beautiful curls (?) line at Wholefoods but I don't like anything with shea butter as I don't like the smell/feel and I have very fine hair strands..shea butter weighs my hair down....lol.. Thanks again.
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Originally posted by Naturaltash1 Naturaltash1 wrote:

Are there any ladies out there doing the bald spot regimen? I'm planning on starting in September, but I'm just curious to know if I'll be doing this by myself. I have 5 wigs that I'll be using during this regimen and I'll also be wearing scarves and beanies. I'm going to do this during the winter months because I don't want to deal with my hair when it's cold outside. 


sorry I am not doing this regimen, I probably should as I have thinning hairline, but the thought of wearing a plastic cap 24/7 for 2 weeks freaks me...I can't even sleep in a plastic cap overnight the plastic rustling sound keeps me up lol...
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Originally posted by Tallbeautie Tallbeautie wrote:

Originally posted by Crownstar Crownstar wrote:

Questions:
Hair gels. Has anyone tried any of The other gels on the recommended list. I'm just about out of the kinky curly and thought I would try a new gel. If so please let me know your thoughts. I am still working on perfecting the flax seed gel recipe. It gave me great hold but seem to make my hair dry.

Aharri: I watched your video on the green tea gel do you like. Have you tried any other gels you recommend?

Tallbeautie: I know you received the Tresemme from the giveaway, have you had a chance to try it hopefully you like it. Hopefully the international giveaway winner will get theirs soon international shipping takes a while.

Yes I have tried the Tresemme conditioner and I do like it alot. Thanks again for you generosity.

Great..I'm glad you like it!
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