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 Posted: Aug 08 2014 at 11:56pm |
 lovemycoils03 wrote:
I'm finally getting a chance to answer these. Had to wait to get home to get in front of my computer.1 cup Bentonite clay (Indian Healing clay), 2tbsp olive oil, 2tbsp honey, and 3 cups water.
13. What products are you using?
I use the TJTTT during the baking soda rinse step. I use KKNT during the DC (full) and leave in (full) and I use the KKCC as the styler.
14. Do you water down your conditioner? Do you find it works better without or doesn't make a difference?
My hair feels much dryer with watered down conditioner. I think the full strength is working better, but I'm still figuring this out...
15. Do you detangle with your fingers or a comb? I am using my fingers exclusively. The only tools I use are clips to hold my hair in sections.
16. Are you natural or transitioning? I have been natural since 1996.
17. Do you have hair color? My hair has been prematurely graying since my teens and I have been dying my front hairline for the last three years. Still trying to figure out a better product, MHM friendly, for this.
18. Do you section your hair to apply stuff? Do you apply stuff starting from the scalp/root?
Yes and Yes. My hair is medium dense and I HAVE to section it quite a bit, for product application, otherwise it still tangles.
19. Do you do the steps on soaking wet hair?
Yes. This really helps the hair coil and clump fully so that the definition is better captured. |
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I have no idea why the first answers got cut off.... I'll try to repost what's missing 1. Are you seeing results with MHM, or have been at a standstill?
Yes, the results are noticeable by family and friends, but the crown/front, sides, and mid-back are still frizzy.
2. How long have you completed the regimen?(day/wk/mnths) Have you been doing your hair at least every 3 days?
I started July 15 and completed my 15th full wash this morning. I do my hair daily or every other day. I allowed three days between the last two washes for my hair to finally dry completely.
3. Did you do a lot of protein treatments or practice use of heavy protein products before starting MHM?
No, not intentionally. I think there was protein in my products that added up over time.
4. In your old regimen, did you GHE/DC/Steam in your old regimen regularly? I did GHE rarely and use a hooded dryer for deep conditioing - moisturizing conditioner
5. Did you do the CG method before starting MHM? Yes. I even had the handbook. As the CG method is in the handbook, my hair stayed dry.
6. Do you encorporate DCing GHE or steam now? I incorporate sitting under a hooded dryer with and without GHE overnight.
7. What other options/versions are you doing? DC/Steam/Warm condish, BS, ACV? The smell of the ACV has been a deterrent. My hair result from the BS and ACV was about the same.
8. What is your hair porosity and curl type? I have 4c, low porosity hair.
9. Are you using the approved products? Yes, only.
10. How long is your hair? TWA? Brastrap? (don't give inches but something general to visualize) My hair reaches above brastrap level in the back, to my collar bones on the side, and below my chin in the front.
11. How does your hair look like during the clay step? Is it weighed down, white, and looks like each curl unit is coated?
Yes, Yes, and Yes.
12. What are you using for the clay step specifically?
1 cup Bentonite clay (Indian Healing clay), 2tbsp olive oil, 2tbsp honey, and 3 or more cups water.
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Posted: Aug 09 2014 at 2:16am |
DenzKoils wrote:
OK here is my verdict. Its not the clay step. I made a brand new batch according to the recipe on msdeekays site. It came out the same as when I make a quarter batch. Applied it and everything was the same as usual.
But what I think is the issue applying conditioner and steaming or sitting under the dryer does not give me the same effect as warming up the conditioner. I thought applying heat would open up my cuticles and let then conditioner in but that does not seem to be the case. I used the heated. Conditioner tonight and I could see a slight coil formation when I put it on. And when I rinsed I had moisture in my strands and not just on top.
I was heating the conditioner a few weeks ago but switched up to use the dryer and then last week started steaming.
I didn't really have any noticeable coils this time around either but I could tell I had water in my strands. That's a start.
I took pictures but I will have to post them when im at a PC.
I did up to step 4. Im going to baggy tonight and see if I can do step 5 in the morning. |
Denzkoils if it came out the same, then does that mean even though you followed the recipe, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgEuwPwkqD8 but the clay was still too watery? what does the clay look like after you prepare it? Is it still too watery? If you watch Dee's video, you want to try and match the consistency that she squeezed out of the bottle. So if the clay doesn't match that creamy look right after you have mixed it, it isn't going to work when you applied it. we already know that consistency of your old batch doesn't work, so try to match the consistency that she uses in the video. If it is too watery just add more clay. I also would like you to provide pictures of how the consistency of your clay looks if you can. Both squeezed out on your hand and on your hair, so I can determine by how white it is, whether it was made thick enough. you can send these pictures to maxhydrationmethod@gmail.com if the forum becomes an issue for you. Because if the clay looked the same as last time on your hair and not white and coated like the pictures, that means the problem with the clay hasn't actually been addressed. Maybe the mixture is too watery then. But it seemed thick enough for me, and Dee follows the measurements to a Tee and it comes out creamy.
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Posted: Aug 09 2014 at 3:02am |
lovemycoils03 wrote:
lovemycoils03 wrote:
I'm finally getting a chance
to answer these. Had to wait to get home to get in front of my computer.1 cup Bentonite clay (Indian Healing clay), 2tbsp olive oil, 2tbsp honey, and 3 cups water.
13. What products are you using?
I
use the TJTTT during the baking soda rinse step. I use KKNT during the
DC (full) and leave in (full) and I use the KKCC as the styler.
14. Do you water down your conditioner? Do you find it works better without or doesn't make a difference?
My
hair feels much dryer with watered down conditioner. I think the full
strength is working better, but I'm still figuring this out...
15. Do you detangle with your fingers or a comb? I am using my fingers exclusively. The only tools I use are clips to hold my hair in sections.
16. Are you natural or transitioning? I have been natural since 1996.
17. Do you have hair color? My hair has been prematurely graying since my teens and I have been dying my front hairline for the last three years. Still trying to figure out a better product, MHM friendly, for this.
18. Do you section your hair to apply stuff? Do you apply stuff starting from the scalp/root?
Yes and Yes. My hair is medium dense and I HAVE to section it quite a bit, for product application, otherwise it still tangles.
19. Do you do the steps on soaking wet hair?
Yes. This really helps the hair coil and clump fully so that the definition is better captured. |
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I have no idea why the first answers got cut off.... I'll try to repost what's missing 1. Are you seeing results with MHM, or have been at a standstill?
Yes, the results are noticeable by family and friends, but the crown/front, sides, and mid-back are still frizzy.
2. How long have you completed the regimen?(day/wk/mnths) Have you been doing your hair at least every 3 days?
I
started July 15 and completed my 15th full wash this morning. I do my
hair daily or every other day. I allowed three days between the last two
washes for my hair to finally dry completely.
3. Did you do a lot of protein treatments or practice use of heavy protein products before starting MHM?
No, not intentionally. I think there was protein in my products that added up over time.
4. In your old regimen, did you GHE/DC/Steam in your old regimen regularly? I did GHE rarely and use a hooded dryer for deep conditioing - moisturizing conditioner
5. Did you do the CG method before starting MHM? Yes. I even had the handbook. As the CG method is in the handbook, my hair stayed dry.
6. Do you encorporate DCing GHE or steam now? I incorporate sitting under a hooded dryer with and without GHE overnight.
7. What other options/versions are you doing? DC/Steam/Warm condish, BS, ACV? The smell of the ACV has been a deterrent. My hair result from the BS and ACV was about the same.
8. What is your hair porosity and curl type? I have 4c, low porosity hair.
9. Are you using the approved products? Yes, only.
10. How long is your hair? TWA? Brastrap? (don't give inches but something general to visualize) My hair reaches above brastrap level in the back, to my collar bones on the side, and below my chin in the front.
11. How does your hair look like during the clay step? Is it weighed down, white, and looks like each curl unit is coated?
Yes, Yes, and Yes.
12. What are you using for the clay step specifically?
1 cup Bentonite clay (Indian Healing clay), 2tbsp olive oil, 2tbsp honey, and 3 or more cups water.
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lovemycoils sent me MHM testimony pics!   Great Results!1) Clay step, wash 1
2) product free hair post clay, side view, wash 5 or 6 or (7?)  3)Product free hair post clay, top, wash 7 or 8 (?)  4)Full method post 2nd cherry lola treatment (wash 14) I will post this once I know whether I should blur out her face.
5) Second day, finally dry hair, shrunken, wash 14. 
I will be starting wash 16 tomorrow, yay!
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Posted: Aug 09 2014 at 8:30am |
tyniagf1 wrote:
What are you all doing to your hair at night? Are you resetting or anything special? I normally just put my bonnet on and go to sleep. Not sure if i should be doing more. Do you add more moisture or anything to your hair in between regimen days? If so how are you all doing that.
Originally I was doing the roll, tuck and pin method and wearing my satin bonnet to bed. I'm now trying a different method of wearing a vented shower cap over the tuck and roll. Then cover with my satin scarf. When I wake up my curls are soft, intact and stretched. All I have to do is shake and fluff at the roots. My wash and go lasts for 3-4 days doing this TIA |
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Posted: Aug 09 2014 at 8:52am |
pinkecube wrote:
DenzKoils wrote:
OK here is my verdict. Its not the clay step. I made a brand new batch according to the recipe on msdeekays site. It came out the same as when I make a quarter batch. Applied it and everything was the same as usual.
But what I think is the issue applying conditioner and steaming or sitting under the dryer does not give me the same effect as warming up the conditioner. I thought applying heat would open up my cuticles and let then conditioner in but that does not seem to be the case. I used the heated. Conditioner tonight and I could see a slight coil formation when I put it on. And when I rinsed I had moisture in my strands and not just on top.
I was heating the conditioner a few weeks ago but switched up to use the dryer and then last week started steaming.
I didn't really have any noticeable coils this time around either but I could tell I had water in my strands. That's a start.
I took pictures but I will have to post them when im at a PC.
I did up to step 4. Im going to baggy tonight and see if I can do step 5 in the morning. |
Denzkoils if it came out the same, then does that mean even though you followed the recipe,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgEuwPwkqD8
but the clay was still too watery? what does the clay look like after you prepare it? Is it still too watery? If you watch Dee's video, you want to try and match the consistency that she squeezed out of the bottle. So if the clay doesn't match that creamy look right after you have mixed it, it isn't going to work when you applied it.
we already know that consistency of your old batch doesn't work, so try to match the consistency that she uses in the video. If it is too watery just add more clay. I also would like you to provide pictures of how the consistency of your clay looks if you can. Both squeezed out on your hand and on your hair, so I can determine by how white it is, whether it was made thick enough. you can send these pictures to maxhydrationmethod@gmail.com if the forum becomes an issue for you. Because if the clay looked the same as last time on your hair and not white and coated like the pictures, that means the problem with the clay hasn't actually been addressed. Maybe the mixture is too watery then. But it seemed thick enough for me, and Dee follows the measurements to a Tee and it comes out creamy.
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I didn't get good pictures because of the lighting in my bathroom.My clay isn't watery. Even my old batch wasn't watery. In fact I probably would need more water to get it to be smooth like msdeekay. I made the batch thicker last night. It was thick enough that I could scoop it up with my fingers. I do usually use an applicator bottle and it comes out like msdeekay. My hair was white after application but it was late and I didnt take good pictures. I will try to take pictures next time if I can get started earlier. I really don't think its the clay though even though that seems like the most reasonable cause. I could not have added less water because I wouldn't have been able to get it out of the jar. I will try again on Monday.
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Posted: Aug 09 2014 at 9:00am |
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Beautiful hair and great progress lovemycoils.
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Posted: Aug 09 2014 at 10:28am |
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Beautiful hair and great progress lovemycoils. |
Thank you DenzKoils!
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Posted: Aug 09 2014 at 10:31am |
@ lovemycoils03 Just saw your hair progress per Pinkes post of your pics. Congrats!!!!!! 
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Posted: Aug 09 2014 at 12:03pm |
@pinkecube, hope this helps
1. Are you seeing results with MHM, or have been at a standstill?I'm seeing major improvement
2. How long have you completed the regimen?(day/wk/mnths) Have you been doing your hair at least every 3 days?
I am just completed my first week and I've done 5 days so far.
3. Did you do a lot of protein treatments or practice use of heavy protein products before starting MHM?
I was flat-ironing my hair a lot until last month so I was co-washing w/ Tresemme Keratin Smooth at least twice a week + using baby shampoo for the build up every 2 weeks. However, once I stopped flat ironing, I noticed how dry/hard all that protein was making my hair.
4. In your old regimen, did you GHE/DC/Steam in your old regimen regularly?
Nope! I don't have a steamer and before this I don't think I've DC'd for more than an hour ever
5. Did you do the CG method before starting MHM?
Nope
6. Do you encorporate DCing GHE or steam now?
Yup, I've done GHE 3 times now
7. What other options/versions are you doing? DC/Steam/Warm condish, BS, ACV?
- BS rinse
- Tried warmed condish once and I liked the results - Tried the mini-MHM when I was in a rush and it didn't seem that much different
8. What is your hair porosity and curl type?
low po, mostly type 4a hair
9. Are you using the approved products?
Yes
10. How long is your hair? TWA? Brastrap? (don't give inches but something general to visualize)
TWA, chin length stretched
11. How does your hair look like during the clay step? Is it weighed down, white, and looks like each curl unit is coated?
Okay so my clay is actually watery and I don't think it has slowed down my progress. I make sure all my strands are saturated. It looks white and I'm not sure if it's completely weighed down
12. What are you using for the clay step specifically?
- European clay, honey, EVOO
Like I said, the clay is a watery texture so I use it like a shampoo. I wet my hair, get it all over, then work on each section individually until it's saturated. I also noticed that since my mix is watery, I get better results when I leave it on for 30 minutes or more.
13. What products are you using?
- Tresemme Nourishing Moisture w/avocado & aloe vera juice (approved formulation) - Giovanni LA natural styling gel - avocado oil sometimes
14. Do you water down your conditioner?
- Watered it down for the past 2 days and my hair has been dryer so I'm going back to full strength for the GHE. I watered it down because GHE makes my scalp itch like crazy  so I guess I'll just be oiling my scalp prior to.
15. Do you detangle with your fingers or a comb? - Fingers
16. Are you natural or transitioning? Natural w/some heat damage
17. Do you have hair color? - I have semi-permanent hair color that didn't really take because I didn't bleach my hair first/low po problems. However since I started MHM, I noticed the color's been popping out a little.
18. Do you section your hair to apply stuff? Do you apply stuff starting from the scalp/root? Sometimes I section my hair, but I find that most times it's not necessary cause my hair is fine/not dense at all and it's short. Yes.
19. Do you do the steps on soaking wet hair? Yes
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Posted: Aug 09 2014 at 12:57pm |
Answering the questions as well.... 1. Are you seeing results with MHM, or have been at a standstill? Seeing gradual results, but did experience a standing for about a 2 wk period.
2. How long have you completed the regimen?(day/wk/mnths) Have you been doing your hair at least every 3 days? I’ve done the regimen 32 times, and I have always repeated it every 1 - 3 days.
3. Did you do a lot of protein treatments or practice use of heavy protein products before starting MHM? No
4. In your old regimen, did you GHE/DC/Steam in your old regimen regularly?
DC every 2 wks
5. Did you do the CG method before starting MHM? No, I had a gut feeling it would not work for my 4c hair type.
6. Do you encorporate DCing GHE or steam now? Yes, both. DC overnight in Step 2. May also steam before DC. If I have to do all the steps in one sitting. I steam in step 2.
7. What other options/versions are you doing? DC/Steam/Warm condish, BS, ACV? I use the full method, with BS rinse in Step 1, but usually alternate with ACV every 3-4 repitions. I always DC or steam in Step 2.
8. What is your hair porosity and curl type? fine, very low porosity, fairly low density type 4c hair
9. Are you using the approved products? yes
10. How long is your hair? TWA? Brastrap? (don't give inches but something general to visualize) bra strap
11. How does your hair look like during the clay step? Is it weighed down, white, and looks like each curl unit is coated? heavy and weighted. very defined, even at the roots. whitish all over.
12. What are you using for the clay step specifically? Bentonite clay, evoo, honey, water. following the recipe
13. What products are you using? Recently switched to the approved Tresseme, Kinky Curly gel, olive oil as needed
14. Do you water down your conditioner? Do you find it works better without or doesn't make a difference? Yes, I water it down. If, I don’t it just sits on my hair feels sticky and won’t absorb.
15. Do you detangle with your fingers or a comb? Fingers
16. Are you natural or transitioning? natural
17. Do you have hair color? no
18. Do you section your hair to apply stuff? Do you apply stuff starting from the scalp/root? yes I section and I apply from roots to ends.
19. Do you do the steps on soaking wet hair? Yes |
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