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I am new to this forum but I have been doing the MHM method for 5 days straight.. WHEW!! Very time consuming. I had to take a break. LOL. However I'm back at it again after a 1 day break. I am 3c/4a/4b...But I think I had a setback due to using the wrong Tressemme Naturals Conditioner. I have since ordered the Radiant volume from Walgreens. However the one they show WITHOUT the Lemongrass matched your approved ingredients to the Tea! That kind of confused me. But anyway Back to my setback. My hair was super dry after the clay step. Stripped tangled and dry until I added the KCKT. I do believe my hair is going through the detox phase though, so I'm not going to stop. My main problems is definition at the roots. Im hoping this method can improve that. I believe I'm low porosity due to the hair strand test I performed. However a beautician said I was high porosity because she would spray my hair with water and my hair dried fast.. . So that confused me once again. Im starting to wonder since you can have different textures in one head if it could be possible to hair more than one porosity level as well...I may be slow and this has already been talked about.. LOL. Anyway thank you all for the wealth of information and I am loving experimenting with this method.. When I figure out how to upload pics I will.. :)
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Originally posted by ableonard6 ableonard6 wrote:

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I am new to this forum but I have been doing the MHM method for 5 days straight.. WHEW!! Very time consuming. I had to take a break. LOL. However I'm back at it again after a 1 day break. I am 3c/4a/4b...But I think I had a setback due to using the wrong Tressemme Naturals Conditioner. I have since ordered the Radiant volume from Walgreens. However the one they show WITHOUT the Lemongrass matched your approved ingredients to the Tea! That kind of confused me. But anyway Back to my setback. My hair was super dry after the clay step. Stripped tangled and dry until I added the KCKT. I do believe my hair is going through the detox phase though, so I'm not going to stop. My main problems is definition at the roots. Im hoping this method can improve that. I believe I'm low porosity due to the hair strand test I performed. However a beautician said I was high porosity because she would spray my hair with water and my hair dried fast.. . So that confused me once again. Im starting to wonder since you can have different textures in one head if it could be possible to hair more than one porosity level as well...I may be slow and this has already been talked about.. LOL. Anyway thank you all for the wealth of information and I am loving experimenting with this method.. When I figure out how to upload pics I will.. :)
Hi ableonard, they probably made a mistake on the picture since the names are so similar. Yes this regimen will help get you root to tip definition. I do think it is possible to have different porosities, but the way your beautician checked your porosity was wrong. Of course your hair is going to dry fast from just spritzing water on naked hair. Your cuticles were closed, the water just sat on your hair evaporated-- it wasn't sucked in and absorbed like a sponge. If it really absorbed your hair would still feel soft after the water dried. Many people pick that as a sign for high porosity hair an it is just plain innacurate. A better way to tell is if you apply conditioner to your hair, it will turn very white. So your strand test was right. Your welcomeBig smile, and please do upload pics!


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Hi Pinkecube,
Thanks for responding. I hope your right about the picture online because I ordered 6 bottles of those bad boys.. LOL.

I believe your right about the porosity issue. To test with conditioner, would I do that say during my cowashing step? Would I wait a few minutes to see if it soaks in or will it soak in immediately if I had normal to high porosity? Because I thought it would always be white for everyone initially.

Thanks again.. :)
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Originally posted by ableonard6 ableonard6 wrote:

Hi Pinkecube,
Thanks for responding. I hope your right about the picture online because I ordered 6 bottles of those bad boys.. LOL.

I believe your right about the porosity issue. To test with conditioner, would I do that say during my cowashing step? Would I wait a few minutes to see if it soaks in or will it soak in immediately if I had normal to high porosity? Because I thought it would always be white for everyone initially.

Thanks again.. :)
Your welcome.Smile If you want to compare how higher porous hair looks with conditioner on it and lower porous hair looks. Yes, conditioner will be white on everyone but it will be very white on low porous hair, and take longer to go away. It also depends on the conditioner. But if your strand test came out low porosity that would be your determiner, I'm just saying most people with low porosity hair, many of the products absorb into higher porosity use just fine, tend to visibly sit on their hair for awhile. It will be very apparent when you get a look. I made sure to get videos where they are all more heavy handed with the conditioner, but you can see higher porous hair takes to the conditioner much differently, where as low porous tends to foam up.

Higher porous.

http://youtu.be/_ljNt5gKPLw?t=1m9s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMDxZMaGb4o


Low porous:

http://youtu.be/MuxfepT_w8w?t=1m10s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsX7fEoY5NY


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So after all that that the Giovanni products that I ordered are all the new Eco Chic formula - the website had pics of both Eco Chic bottle on some and the old formula Pure Organic bottles on others. But I was advised that they're all new formula. ARGGHH! They were v helpful though and refunded my money straight away

Pinke, the only other two conditioners on my list that you approved are the Botanical Skin Leave, which is out of stock.  The Kirks Natural contains soapwort, which contains saponins. I guess this is no good for a leave-in?

Kirks Natural Products Original Coco Castile Conditioner
Purified Water, Hydroxyethylcellulose (Plant Fiber), DMDM Hydantoin, Coconut Oil, Aloe, Chamomile, Soapwort, Natural Fragrance.

Botanical Skin Works - Leave In Conditioner
Ingredients: *^Butyrospermum parkii (Shea Butter), *Limnanthes Alba (Meadowfoam) Seed Oil,  *Persea Gratissima (Avocado) Oil, *Aleurites Moluccana (Kukui) Nut Oil, CO-Q10, Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM), *Organic Proprietary Blend of Botanical Infusion of Extracts, Essential Oil Blend of Rosmarinus Officinalis (Rosemary), Salvia Officinali (Sage) and *Lavendula Angustifolia (Lavender).
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Or how about this one? I didn't ask before coz I have no idea what's in the herbal complex but things are getting desperate!

Tea Tree Conditioner
Bio-Ferm Herbal Complex, Tea Tree Oil, Wheat Protein and Vitamin B5.

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Originally posted by Loves2Laugh Loves2Laugh wrote:

So after all that that the Giovanni products that I ordered are all the new Eco Chic formula - the website had pics of both Eco Chic bottle on some and the old formula Pure Organic bottles on others. But I was advised that they're all new formula. ARGGHH! They were v helpful though and refunded my money straight away

Pinke, the only other two conditioners on my list that you approved are the Botanical Skin Leave, which is out of stock.  The Kirks Natural contains soapwort, which contains saponins. I guess this is no good for a leave-in?

Kirks Natural Products Original Coco Castile Conditioner
Purified Water, Hydroxyethylcellulose (Plant Fiber), DMDM Hydantoin, Coconut Oil, Aloe, Chamomile, Soapwort, Natural Fragrance.

Botanical Skin Works - Leave In Conditioner
Ingredients: *^Butyrospermum parkii (Shea Butter), *Limnanthes Alba (Meadowfoam) Seed Oil,  *Persea Gratissima (Avocado) Oil, *Aleurites Moluccana (Kukui) Nut Oil, CO-Q10, Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM), *Organic Proprietary Blend of Botanical Infusion of Extracts, Essential Oil Blend of Rosmarinus Officinalis (Rosemary), Salvia Officinali (Sage) and *Lavendula Angustifolia (Lavender).


I wouldnt worry too much about the soapwort, since that is a natural plant leaf extract. I mean something like saponified coconut oil or, saponified olive oil. I dont think you will have issues with the soapwort extract.

Here is what I could find for goivanni in the UK

http://www.skinnutrition.co.uk/p/292/Giovanni_Nutra_fix_Reconstuctor.html


http://www.iherb.com/Giovanni-Nutrafix-Hair-Reconstructor-6-8-fl-oz-200-ml/6420

This is the gel, in case you couldn't find it.
http://www.curlyemporium.co.uk/products/GVN-L.A.-Natural-Styling-Gel-200ml.html



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the other tea tree conditioner u mentioned has wheat protein and panthenol. I will try an look up a place so i can see if they have the correct giovanni conditioner available in the UK.
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My hair feels dry when the hair dries. Its only soft when wet or damp. Thoughts?
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I did wash 17 last night. I am modifying for a while and skipping the mud step. I will add the clay step every 7th wash to see how that works. The mud just dries my ends out too much to use consistently. Over time I will see if I can do it every 5 washes and then every 3.

My hair was nice and soft after the DC step which is nice.
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