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Posted: Mar 08 2014 at 7:45pm |
KCCC it is then! I will use up the rest of my wetline and super wet then make the switch to KCCC as my only styler. Thanks!
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Posted: Mar 08 2014 at 11:38pm |
aharri23 wrote:
KCCC it is then! I will use up the rest of my wetline and super wet then make the switch to KCCC as my only styler. Thanks!
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No problem .
Yeah, I believe because of the ingredients, KCCC is one the best stylers you can use for this method. There are other good ones, however. I searched literally for hours online, looking up gels that didn't have silicones, denatured alcohol, parabens, tea, hydrolyzed proteins, and glycerin. A lot of botanical gels I found relied a lot on protein or used glycerin. Cantu shea custard and shea moisture curling suffle had great ingredients but they contained vegetable glycerin as the first few ingredients. I believe they would be a lot like kccc if it weren't for the glycerin, and it's really a shame.
Here are some gels i managed to find that seemed to fit(prices vary from cheap to expensive):
Kinky curly curling custard -$17 for 8 oz
Ingredients: botanical infusion of water, horsetail, chamomile, nettle and marshmallow, organic aloe vera juice, agave nectar extract, tocopheryl acetate (vitamin e), pectic, citric acid, potassium sorbate and natural fragrance
Beautiful curls shea butter curl defining gel- $14, 8oz
Ingredients Chamomile (matricaria recutita) extract (aqueous), yarrow (achillea millefolium) extract (aqueous), Certified Fair Trade shea butter (butyrospermum parkii), aloe vera leaf gel (aloe barbadensis), agave nectar, panthenol, coconut oil, apricot fruit and ylang ylang flower extracts, guar gum, xanthan gum, phenoxyethanol, potassium sorbate, citric acid.
CURLSPIRATION Natural Curl Defining Hair Gel $18, 12 oz(etsy.com)
Ingredients: distilled aqua, aqueous extracts of organic linum usitatissimum (linseed), organic urtica dioica (nettle leaf), organic equisetum arvense (horsetail), organic althaea officinalis (marshmallow root), organic ulmus rubra (slippery elm bark), aloe barbadensis leaf juice, organic agave nectar, xanthan gum, ricinus communis (castor) seed oil, prunus armeniaca (apricot) kernel oil, hydroxypropyltrimonium honey, panthenol, simmondsia chinensis (jojoba) seed oil, phenoxyethanol, caprylyl glycol, fragrance, tocopherol, citric acid Uncle Funky's Daughter Curly Magic-$25, 18oz
ingredients: Organic Aloe Vera Juice, Aqueous-Infused Extracts of Marshmallow, Chamomile, Nettle, Horsetail, Vitamin E, Agave Nectar Extract, Citric Acid, Potassium Sorbate and Natural Fragrance.
Curls Goddess Glaze-$14, 6 oz
Ingredients Water, Sorbitol, Polyacrylate-14, Certified Organic Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Polyquaternium-7, Polysorbate 20, Certified Organic Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter) Fruit, Certified Organic Mangifera Indica (Mango) Seed Butter, Certified Organic Simmondsia Chinensis (Jojoba) Seed Oil, Panthenol, Certified Organic Plumeria Alba Flower Extract, Biosaccharide Gum-1 Carbomer, Aminomethyl Propanol, Tetrasodium EDTA, Phenoxyethanol, DMDM Hydantoin.
Green tea curl glaze-$25, 16 oz
Ingredients Botanical extracts of horsetail, marshmallow root, neem leaf, nettle leaf, olive leaf and slippery elm root in purified water, organic green tea extract, aloe vera, agave nectar, pectin, lavender, lemon and lime essential oils, natural fragrance
Natural Hair Gel Flaxseed & Marshmallow Root Hair Softner, Conditioner, Ph Balanced, Hair Moisturizer by Naturally Amari -$7, 8 oz
(it's on etsy.com, and pick the options without quinoa under sizes)
ingredients:Certified Organic Flaxseeds, Certified Organic Marshmallow Root, 100% Natural Aloe Vera Gel, Sweet Almond Oil, Vitamin E Oil, Natural preservative (Optiphen)
Giovanni's L.A. Natural styling gel-$9-6, 6.8 oz
Ingredients: infusion of Rosemary Extract, Nettles Extract, Thyme Extract, Birch Leaf Extract, Chamomile Extract, Sage Extract, St. John's Wort Extract, Coltsfoot Extract, Mallow Extract, Balm Mint Extract, Horsetail Extract, Red Clover Extract, Soy, Grapefruit Seed Extract, Cellosize, I.P.A., PVP K30, Stearikonium, Chloride, Kelp, Mineral Trace Elements, DL Panthenol, Cinnamate
4Naturals Spring Back Curling Custard-$12.5, 6 oz
ingredients: Water, Sucrose, Propylene Glycol, Pectin, Phenoxyethanol, Caprylyl Glycol, Chlorphenesin, Citric Acid, FragranceJessie Curl confident Curls
New Gellie by Bella Curl -$11.95, 8 oz (etsy.com)
INGREDIENTS: aqua (distilled), rosa damascena (rose otto) distillate, linum usitatissimum (flax) seed, brassica oleracea italica (broccoli) seed oil, cetearyl olivate (and) sorbitan olivate, infused carthamus tinctorius (safflower) oil, PEG -50 shea butter, PEG -7 olivate, magnesium chloride, gluconolactone (and) sodium benzoate, essential oil blend, cellulose copolymer Original Sprout Natural hair gel
Aussie's instant freeze sculpting gel-$4, 7 oz
ingredients: water, laureth 23, ppolyquaternium 4, hydroxyethylcellulose, benzyl alcohol, acrylates/beheneth 25 methacrylate copolymer, aminomethyl propanol, dmdm hydantoin, acrylates copolymer, fragrance, disodium edta, prunus serotina bark extract (wild cherry), humulus lupulus extract (hops), hedychium coronarium root extract (australian white ginger), panthenol Aussie Aussome Volume Texturizing Gel
Aussie Aussome Volume Texturizing Gel-$4, 7 oz
ingredients:water, laureth-23, polyquaternium-4, hydroxyethylcellulose, benzyl alcohol, acrylates/beheneth-25 methacrylate copolymer, aminomethyl propanol, dmdm hydantoin, acrylates copolymer, fragrance, disodium edta, prunus serotina (wild cherry) bark extract, humulus lupulus (hops) extract, hedychium coronarium (australian white ginger) root extract, panthenol.
H2BNNaturals: Hibiscus Hair Gellie -$11.50, 8 oz
(etsy.com) (contains vegetable glycerin, but you ask her to remove the glycerin, she takes customs) Ingredients: Hibiscus & Flax Seed Infused Purified Water, Vegetable Glycerin, Aloe Whole Leaf Juice, Marshmallow Root, Irish Moss, Pro-Vitamin B5, Xanthan Gum (thickener), Wheat Germ Oil, Coconut Oil, Silver Dihydrogen Citrate (anti-microbial), Citric Acid (preservative), Potassium Sorbate (preservative)
Organic Marshmallow roots & Flaxseed Extracts Hair Moisturizer Gel-$11.50, 8 oz (etsy.com, also if you want you can make a custom order without the panthenol, since panthenol is a light protein and can build up on the hair making it feel gummy)
Ingredients: Infusions of organic flaxseeds and organics marshmallow roots , distilled water, Intense Hydration Complex, Panthenol, Inulin, natural and organic aromatic essences, Geoguard, Carrageenan extract, Potassium sorbate. Sweet Curls Flax Seed Defining Gel (you can request additional ingredients under custom order: Water, Flax Seeds, Xanthan Gum, may contain citric acid, Phenoxyethanol, Caprylyl Glycol, Sorbic Acid
Tate's the Natural Miracle Hair Gel -$32, 18 oz (not sure how good a hold this might have) Ingredients: Mountain spring water, pine needles, pine bark, oak bark, honey, lavender, calendula, basil, parsley, cucumber, tomatoes, rose hip, allspice berries, citrus peels, juniper, lemongrass, sage, mint, thyme, vinegar, peppermint, apricot, peach.
Herbal Choice Mari Hair Styling GEL for Him & Her -$14, 8oz
Ingredients: Purified water, organic vodka, organic guar gum (natural plant based), organic sweet orange oil, organic lemongrass oil, organic olive oil, organic apple cider vinegar (raw, unfiltered), organic green tea, organic sage herb, organic bilberry leaf, xanthan gum (natural gum), organic patchouli oil, organic primrose oil, organic thyme oil, organic rose hip oil.
CurlyGirl Silky Custard -$12, 8 oz.
Ingredients: distilled water, certified organic aloe vera gel, certified organic extra virgin coconut oil, bamboo extract, certified organic sunflower oil, rice bran oil, sweet almond oil, apricot kernel oil, wheat germ oil, natural Vitamin E oil, xanthan gum, essential oil blend, potassium sorbate, grapefruit seed extract, phthalate-free fragrance
Natural Flaxseed Gel by Blendies -$8.50, 4oz
(etsy.com)
Ingredients: Bobs Mill Organic Flaxseeds, ,Organic Castor oil, Organic Aloe Vera Gel, Olive oil, Vitamin E, Essential oil.
Zerran Hair Care Radiant Finish Styling Glaze Medium Hold - $11.99, 8 oz
Ingredients: Water, Polyquaternium-4,Ginkgo Biloba Extract, Chamomilla Recutita (Matricaria) Flower Extract, Citrus URANTIUM dULCIS (Orange) Peel Extract, Althaea Officinalis Extract, Achillea Millefolium Extract, Foeniculum Vulgare (Fennel) Fruit Extract, Glycyrrhiza Glabra (Licorice) Root Extract, Methyl Gluceth-10, Cocamidopropyl Belaine, Mentha Piperita (Peppermint) Oil, Mentha Virdis (Spearmint) Leaf Oil, Polyquaternium-47, Disodium EDTA, Methylisothaizolinone, Violet 2.
Bain de Terre Bamboo Ultra Control Styling Gel -$10, 8.5 oz
Ingredients:Water/Aqua/Eau, Polyacrylate-2 Crosspolymer, Aminomethyl Propanol, Bambusa Vulgaris Extract, Gardenia Tahitensis Flower Extract, Ribes Nigrum (Black Currant) Fruit Extract, Lycium Barbarum Fruit Extract, Cocos Nucifera (Coconut) Oil, Argania Spinosa Kernel Oil, Laureth-12, Tetrasodium EDTA, Propylene Glycol, Polysorbate 20, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, DMDM Hydantoin, Fragrance/Parfum.
miessence certified organic shape styling gel -$27, 8.5 oz
Ingredients: certified organic aloe barbadensis (aloe vera) leaf juice, xanthan gum, chondrus crispus (carageenan) gum , certified organic arctium lappa (burdock) extract, certified organic pelargonium graveolens (geranium) essential oil, certified organic equisetum arvense (horsetail) extract, certified organic urtica dioica (nettle) extract, myroxylon pereirae (balsam peru) oil, certified organic rosa rubiginosa (rosehip) seed oil, certified organic rosmarinus officinalis (rosemary) leaf extract, certified organic salvia officinalis (sage) leaf extract, certified organic ethanol (sugar cane alcohol)
Epiphany Naturals Curly Creme with Argan Oil -$16, 8oz
Ingredients: Organic Aloe barbadensis (Aloe Vera) Leaf Juice, Equisetum arvense (Horsetail) Leaf Extract, EcoCert Propanediol (Vegetable, Corn), Organic Althaea officinalis (Marshmallow) Root Extract, EcoCert Trimethylglycine (Beet Sugar), EcoCert Hydrogenated Olea europaea (Olive Oil), EcoCert Olea europaea (Olive Oil), EcoCert Olea europaea (Olive Oil) Unsaponifiables, Organic Cocos nucifera (Coconut) Nut Oil, Argan Oil, Sclerotium (Mushroom) Gum, Organic Hibiscus rosa sinensis (Hibiscus) Leaf / Flower Extract, Panthenol (Pro-Vitamin B5), Sclerotium Gum (Vegetable), KOSH Chondrus crispus (Irish Moss / Carageenan), Simmondsia chinensis (Jojoba) Esters, EcoCert Gluconolactone, EcoCert Sodium Benzoate, Fragrance
by the way i take that back about the free and clear styling gel, from my previous reply. it actually has silicones, which build up on the hair blocking moisture, and can't be removed by anything but sulfates. hope i could help!
| never mind about jessie curls styling solution. it has magnesium sulfate, which even though is slightly better than regular sulfates, continued and often use can lead to it drying the hair.
Edited by pinkecube - Mar 10 2014 at 9:03am
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Posted: Mar 10 2014 at 12:21pm |
kwicherbichen wrote:
Pinkecube, I sent you a private message with my e-mail address. I have already made a connection with a woman who sells natural hair products and she is interested in the method. I told her that we can send her blog posts to promote MAX HYDRATION METHOD and anything related to it and also feature us in her upcoming e-book.
I'm really serious about working on the details of this.
I also have to ask, why combine ACV and Baking soda? Isn't an alkaline needed to lift the follicle for low porosity hair?
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i forgot to add this. the ph needs to be over 5.5 for the hair cuticle to open. the hair cuticle closes at a ph below 5.5. human hair is at a balanced ph at 4.5-5.5. a ph of 7 (like water) is not ph balanced on the hair. acv has a ph of 4.25 to 4.5. greek yogurt's ph falls from 4.5 to 5.5. the effect of adding acv to my modified cherry lola treatmeng wouldnt be significant enough to change the ph, since i also added ingredients with a higher ph including egg, overripe banana, and overripe advocado, plus there is already bakingsoda. adding acv makes the mixture foam more and the overall modified mixture imo increases the effectiveness of the treatment.
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Posted: Mar 10 2014 at 12:42pm |
Ok I think you're on to something. I need my cuticles to open in order for the moisture to seep in. What can I use to 1st open up the cuticle for it to atleast be a little over 5.5. When my hair is wet its soft but then everything goes down hill when it dries. Maybe if I try greek yogurt by itself that will open it up for moisture but then I will quickly have to put something there for the moisture to seep in.
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Posted: Mar 10 2014 at 12:58pm |
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Ok I think you're on to something. I need my cuticles to open in order for the moisture to seep in. What can I use to 1st open up the cuticle for it to atleast be a little over 5.5. When my hair is wet its soft but then everything goes down hill when it dries. Maybe if I try greek yogurt by itself that will open it up for moisture but then I will quickly have to put something there for the moisture to seep in.
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the regimen i described is going to do all that for you. just do the regimen step by step in the first post above-- all of that is going to do what your hair needs. the first step will clarify build up, which is one of the things that blocks moisture from entering the hair shaft. the second step will re open the cuticle and allow moisture to really seep in. the 3rd step both clarifies and opens the cuticle. it also detoxes the hair. the 4th step is the leave in step, and now that your cuticles are open, the conditioner will better seep into the hair. the 5th step is gel application, which will seal in the moisture and prevent most of it from evaporating. make sure enough is applied to each section. your hair will tell you when it is enough, by the amount of slip and clumping you get. these steps done in sequence will safely and temporarily manipulate the hair cuticle into accepting moisture, which will lead to building up moisture retention, and eventually max hydration. everything just needs to be done perfectly without using products that contain glycerin, proteins, silicones, sulfates, and parabens. these products also steal moisture from the hair.
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Posted: Mar 10 2014 at 1:39pm |
Pink so this is what I did below. I totolly didn't even see the 5 steps right under it. Ok I will try that next weekend since you states I have to leave a 2 week gap in between. Ingredients: Greek yogurt (2 cups) Baking soda (2 tbsp) Organic apple cider vinegar (2 tbsp) Raw coconut aminos(or just regular aminos, but i personally didn't like soy in my hair) (2 tbsp) Raw honey (1/2 tbsp) Unsulfured molasses (1 tbsp) Half an over ripe plantain or banana Avocado (3/4 tbsp) 1 egg (optional, but I used it no problem)
blend the ingredients in your blender. saturate your dry (but detangled) hair completely from root to tip with the mixture. put a shower cap and let sit for 1.5-2 hours. Rinse out completely with warm/hot water. co
wash with botanical/cg friendly conditioner. ( whatever you wash your
hair with will be absorbed into the hair shaft, so no silicones,
parabens, sulfates, drying denatured alcohol) apply more conditioner but leave it in. seal with botanical gel
if
you choose to do the regular recipe, it is the same as this only
substract the vinegar, overriped banana and advocado, egg, and molasses.
after doing this you can cowash. and continue on from there to a wash
and go. DONT do an acv rinse directly after this. You can do a cowash
and maybe do a cold rinse with conditioner afterword and that will be
enough to reclose the cuticle. The point of temporarily opening the hair
cuticle is so the moisture can get in, it makes no sense to just
reclose it before actually putting the moisture in your hair.
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Posted: Mar 10 2014 at 1:42pm |
Yeah I'll try all 5 steps since y hair is super duper short. Just long enough to go through a rattail comb
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Posted: Mar 10 2014 at 1:48pm |
sugabanana wrote:
Pink so this is what I did below. I totolly didn't even see the 5 steps right under it. Ok I will try that next weekend since you states I have to leave a 2 week gap in between. Ingredients: Greek yogurt (2 cups) Baking soda (2 tbsp) Organic apple cider vinegar (2 tbsp) Raw coconut aminos(or just regular aminos, but i personally didn't like soy in my hair) (2 tbsp) Raw honey (1/2 tbsp) Unsulfured molasses (1 tbsp) Half an over ripe plantain or banana Avocado (3/4 tbsp) 1 egg (optional, but I used it no problem)
blend the ingredients in your blender. saturate your dry (but detangled) hair completely from root to tip with the mixture. put a shower cap and let sit for 1.5-2 hours. Rinse out completely with warm/hot water. co
wash with botanical/cg friendly conditioner. ( whatever you wash your
hair with will be absorbed into the hair shaft, so no silicones,
parabens, sulfates, drying denatured alcohol) apply more conditioner but leave it in. seal with botanical gel
if
you choose to do the regular recipe, it is the same as this only
substract the vinegar, overriped banana and advocado, egg, and molasses.
after doing this you can cowash. and continue on from there to a wash
and go. DONT do an acv rinse directly after this. You can do a cowash
and maybe do a cold rinse with conditioner afterword and that will be
enough to reclose the cuticle. The point of temporarily opening the hair
cuticle is so the moisture can get in, it makes no sense to just
reclose it before actually putting the moisture in your hair.
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okay so what you did was the preparation step. this is done every 2 weeks at the most frequent. so you wait at least 2 weeks between every cherry lola treatment. dont forget to deep condition right after doing the treatment, or steam. this is the best way to take advantage of it. i do my cherry lola every 2-3 months. the actual regimen is the 5 steps below. this is done every day. (you can do second day and third day after max hydration is reached.) you dont have to wait two weeks between it, it is a daily regimen.
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Posted: Mar 10 2014 at 2:00pm |
Now you're talking my language. I didn't see that part. I was thinking I had to wait 2 weeks before doing anything. Apple Cider vinegar can this dry out your hair if used every other day?
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