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Printer_Ink
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Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 11:08am |
Oh geesh people .. all she's got to do is leave America .. and NOONE would care one way or another! DUH!
Ya'll gotta get exposed to the outside world where this kind of stuff is on the bottom of the list of 'things to worry about in life'.
Everytime I try to tell one of my European friends about this color problem .. they don't believe me! They think I make this stuff up.
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Diane (35)
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Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 11:08am |
For me it went Jamaican, black, middle class, girl. *Titanagraph ALERT*
For in my country we are classist and colourists above all. But it all really stems from the same racism, a closeness to eurocentric standards of beauty and the ecomonic advantage, social standing they have but we dont want to be YT. Negro elitism is high around these parts. Them (bhuttu, ghetto, uneducated ratchet, poor people) vs Us (decent , educated, hard working, middle class)
Our Colour descriptors are "fair" "high coloured" "black" and "brown" but this brown includes mixed race complexion - medium dark it's not always easily identifiable which "browning" the gentleman is referring to. Light skin = indicator of social class and beauty. For while its about 90% afro-descendants, the upper class does not reflect this. And this is put in our faces everyday all day. the aristocracy and the powerfully connected last names are Jamaican YT, Lebanese, Syrian, Indian, Chinese mixed race etc etc
I'm going to say definiately there is no light skinned struggle here light skin is praised and desired not shunned or they dont hear they are not black enough or any of that, hell everyone even Buju Banton wants "a browning". But there is a HUGE dark skinned struggle. TBH we dont speak about it colourism, we hide from this and refuse to address the imbalace in the society it only to comes up when bleaching is the topic of the day.
Society tells us told "anything black (or too black) nuh good" and this phrase is a oft repeated one. Hell 3 weeks ago my friend said yes im dark (Black Opal Beautiful Bronze) but him blaccccccckkkkkkk. I kept asking whats wrong with being dark but she said but him dark like midnight, till him shine, he's "blurple" SMDH no one else said a word to her then the convo changed to Lupita and how pretty she is SMMFH
Once, not too long ago you if you were not "brown and pretty" you could not 1) be on tv- news anchor 2) be an air hostess 3) work as a teller in the bank 4) win a beauty pageant (even now IMO) Hell even now the people on Page 2 (society pages) are mostly "high coloured" non-black, the bigger daily newspaper includes more black per inch but still it's the brownings and their family and friends
You can hear "nice nice browing' : brown and pretty' RAATID just last week a textbook for Primary school kids came under MAJOR fire for describing a girl as "she has long hair, a straight nose, she is brown, she is pretty" MERCY [to our credit it is a Trinidadian book AND not on the Min. of Education's required textbook list]
And amongst the poor and uhmm 'ratchet' social mobility is linked to be "brown" or "high coloured" and this leads many to bleach. They are not denying that they are black, far from it but they want to get a job, a mate, to be seen as attractive (then we have those who do it because it is trendy) etc etc They rich do it too but that's more accepted, chemical peeling all they way to a whole 'nother person.
I find that we have a plethora of advertisments with a dark 4B male partnered with a mixed "brown" chick and i side eye them daily.
There's is a long running series of plays which are centred around a character in black face. A sea of black faces pay cash to laugh at this dark skinned, coarse haired, missing teeth, big redde lipped woman, and it sells out daily. *face palm* I swear! The last time i mentioned her WF asked if it can be blackface if the actor is black and i said hell yes! Interestingly not even 2 days after the post there was an article in the paper about that same coon.
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OoDles O
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Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 11:09am |
10 more pgs.. in 5, 4, 3, 2 …
edit: damnit, a top page post. 
Edited by OoDles O - Mar 27 2014 at 11:09am
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kfoxx1998
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Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 11:43am |
Fckn Europeans.
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kfoxx1998
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Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 12:07pm |
Yup. Everything Diane said was/is because of their asses and Becky gonna come in here and try to pretend they are just colorblind as a bat. I think its time for HER to get out a little bit more.
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mizzsandra00
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Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 12:10pm |
Them same white folks be acting like them silky wigs she wears looks like her real hair.......theyve been lying since day one.
Edited by mizzsandra00 - Mar 27 2014 at 12:10pm
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Princess Grace
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Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 12:52pm |
Sandra why did you remind me about the caught in the rain story  Silky wigs she used to wear  , she is now part of the kinky curly only or so she says. I do find it right hard to believe.
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kfoxx1998
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Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 1:08pm |
Sandy and PG I'm glad I'm not the only one who never believes these affirmations from Becky. I usually take ppl at their word so I thought maybe I just don't like her font. But um yeah, she lyin'
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afrokock
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Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 1:47pm |
europe aint no damn utopia
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noneyons
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Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 2:06pm |
yall know darn well, if you pay close enough attention to black men's conversations, the topic of discrimination, victimization etc. usually always centers around their plight and their plight only. when they complain about the black struggle against "the man", the black struggle equals the black man's struggle. not ours.
the racism black women face is usually dismissed as minor and/or paranoia. there's even an undertone of victim blaming (black women) when these type of discussions are had. hell, a lot of black men even believe that we are willing pawns in white supremacy; in cahoots with the white man to destroy the black community (welfare taking the place of men in the homes bullsh*t for example).
their participation in our plight is residual. in other words, we reap the rewards by proxy. we don't even factor in until it's time to support them. and we're always there.
how this ties into the conversation about the light skinned/dark skinned struggle? it ties into the discussion in that it creates a divisive atmosphere within the black community. there shouldn't be light skin/dark skin divide between us. but it is sustained when some black men (and some when but they aren't usually as brazen about it) ascribe positive characteristics to women who look closer to white, negative characteristics to darker women when we're all in this fight together.
if they don't consider this fight one that we should are partake in as i mentioned before (black women and men together), they contribute to to the fracture. makes us mere pawns in their game perhaps.
Edited by noneyons - Mar 27 2014 at 2:12pm
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