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Originally posted by femmemichelle femmemichelle wrote:

Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

Originally posted by noneyons noneyons wrote:

it is sad that there is a struggle. but its not imagined. some people don't like to be introspective about these things and live life on the shallow end, scared to face their demons, but again. it is very real. 

the complex is everywhere. when people say "i don't like light skinned women/men because [insert bullsh*t reason]", or "i prefer light skinned men/women because [insert bullsh*t reason]", their complex is showing. 

not sure what afro meant with the lack of empathy comment, but that resonates with me. struggle is struggle. there is no competition. but i chose my words carefully because, whether we want to admit it or not, this topic has folk in defense mode. 

whatever though...

to assume that people are not genuinely maligned because of their complexion and to down play it to some mystical boogyman sh*t. beause why stop at complexion? this could easily be about race as well,

for example, are black women who complain about non black women used in popular culture as teh beauty standard just sour because they are not white or other than black?

are their experiences of marginalisation all internalised and not lived experiences?

yes, the issue of colorism is a sore spot in our communities but we have to tread carefully during discourse


No. I enjoy the hypocrisy. Because people can't connect the dots and realize how absolutely stupid they look when they get upset about the white owned media dismissing them.


I think you missed the point but cool.
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I will always see myself as black first

maybe as a woman second or third

but a few women on here have said they see themselves as women first

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I have to say for the most part I think men do too.  How can they not in a world where it is clearly indicated to them on a daily basis?  Its deeply down in there for all of us. Self-Denial can't even squelch  that. 

ETA: @ Simone - they lyin'


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yeah I was kind of shocked when I read what nons wrote

I think the black men I know see themselves as black first

but I understand why it may be the opposite for others

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@ Samone last line - Coonin'LOL
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I knew I was black before I knew I was a man


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Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:


yeah I was kind of shocked when I read what nons wrote

I think the black men I know see themselves as black first

but I understand why it may be the opposite for others


This is why I said that response was interesting. lol

The black men in my life are always making anything and everything about race which frankly does get exhausting sometimes.  The men tend to do this more than the women which actually bring on it's own set of problems. Ermm

In what ways does one prove that they are "black first."  Why do you have to see yourself as "black first" and why can't you view yourself as other things while also view being black as also important.  I don't think it's all mutually exclusive.
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Originally posted by mangachan mangachan wrote:

Why do you have to see yourself as "black first" and why can't you view yourself as other things while also view being black as also important.  I don't think it's all mutually exclusive.


I mean you can but it seems like our history (and current status) in America makes this unattainable w/o a lot of hard work.   Barrack Obama even knows he's black first even if he has to act like he's a politician first or a lawyer first, etc.  They be reminding us every single day and we are taught at home from the start about what it means in order to counteract the negative sh*t that goes along with it. 
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I was given this world I didn't make it.....

but I like seeing myself as black first
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On the subject of the light skin struggle I know I'm not the only person who wondered if Barack was so attracted to ds women because he internalized some of the issues associated with being a mixed race light skinned black man (I think he's brown though).  Was he craving the roots of his Kenyan father more so than the roots of his yt mother and grandparents.  I don't know for sure of course but I wondered about it.   He reminds me of my brother and how he used to absolutely adore very chocolate women.  My mother hated that. 
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