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Originally posted by f8dagrate f8dagrate wrote:

Some teachers do want to teach, but are prohibited by the school board from deviating from the schools planned curriculum.


i'm not defending the teachers in either video, and i can understand the students' frustration with their poor instruction.

but i think some ppl do not really understand this. its not always about teachers being "lazy"

in my first year of teaching (5th), we had a scripted curriculum. that basically means that i read from a script to teach the lesson and did the suggested activities and assigned the suggested homework. if i were to deviate from that, i would get in trouble. and it was common for the principal to come into our classroom, pick up a teachers' lesson plan and make sure that he/she was doing that script.


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Originally posted by Ladybird0724 Ladybird0724 wrote:

Originally posted by f8dagrate f8dagrate wrote:

Some teachers do want to teach, but are prohibited by the school board from deviating from the schools planned curriculum.


i'm not defending the teachers in either video, and i can understand the students' frustration with their poor instruction.

but i think some ppl do not really understand this. its not always about teachers being "lazy"

in my first year of teaching (5th), we had a scripted curriculum. that basically means that i read from a script to teach the lesson and did the suggested activities and assigned the suggested homework. if i were to deviate from that, i would get in trouble. and it was common for the principal to come into our classroom, pick up a teachers' lesson plan and make sure that he/she was doing that script.




IA I am empathetic to both side also, I think the parents need to be more involved tbh, we must start more conversations btw parent, students and teachers to really make a change. The boards will bow if we all come together.
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Originally posted by f8dagrate f8dagrate wrote:

but there are other learning disabilities jimmy  like dyscalcula, dysgraphia. But I'm no longer interested in this conversation Jimmy, we semi-agree w/ each other any way.

The law protects these students through an Individualized Education Plan (IEP).  By law, teachers and special ed instructors have to abide by what is included in the IEP.  However, many teachers don't and that's when the parents need to be in the teachers ass about what goals their child are/or are not meeting.
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Originally posted by Ladybird0724 Ladybird0724 wrote:



unfortunately, some ppl do not have the option of really "choosing" a district. they are not able to travel to these better schools. and charter schools can be hit or miss.

honestly, one of the biggest things that has to change is how schools are allocated money. that will begin to make a difference in the quality of resources, teachers and instruction, but that is a whole other discussion.


I agree and disagree with this. The way funds are allocated to schools in general is ridiculous. However, there is no "fair" way to redistribute the funds that doesn't end up burning one to appease the other.

In Indianapolis (my home town) there are 9 school districts, of roughly equal land size in a perfect 3x3 square across the city & county. The unfortunate school district in the center, (IPS - Indianapolis Public School) was predominantly the inner city district with the least funding because the center district was comprised of businesses and government buildings so property taxes were greatly reduced or non existent as opposed to the other "outer" districts that were predominantly residential and with higher property values.

The IPS district was constantly downsizing, cutting programs, etc. to accommodate their tiny budget yet consistently not meeting the necessary benchmarks for student achievement. Mind you, Indiana is a pretty low ranked state for education, so you REALLY have to be bad to be falling below the state standards. At one point, they decided to petition the Indy Board of Ed to force the surrounding 8 districts in Indianapolis to "redistribute" their budgets to bolster IPS' small budget because they didn't feel that it was fair that the other school systems were enjoying bigger budgets because of the property tax issue. It got shot down almost immediately, and parents from the surrounding districts fought against it tooth & nail, IMO rightfully so.

I get that people shouldn't be punished for not living in the right area, but penalizing the students/families/school systems that are in a "goldilocks zone" for funding because other students aren't isn't fair either.
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