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All this criticism of Spike Lee is getting on my nerves. People forget what a briliant, trailblazing filmmaker he was/still is and are all too content to paint him as a has-been when the actual reason he's not making movies these days is that he is not getting the funding he needs because he bothers the establishment. I personally don't like Tarantino's style, too much slapstick and gore for me but I understand how his style could be attractive to this generation. But Spike Lee was/is a brilliant filmmaker and that cannot be denied

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So there is a dog that is hurt in this and the premise is about slavery...I want to see this movie but I don't know if my heart can handle it!!!!Cry
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8/10 imo

no there's not an injured dog in the movieLOL 
there are dogs attacking a runaway slave who didn't want to fight in the mandingo fights anymore


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I'll wait for the DVD. Knowing Tarantino's slapstick gore style, I don't think I can take watching a movie about slavery in that light, revenge subplot or not. Tarantino is a B-list director to me. What people like in his movies is the stylistic, mindless violence. I don't like the context of a movie about slavery being made into a Sergio Leone spaghetti western flick. It just doesn't sit well with me. And I think he's stone cold crazy too
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i hated the gore. covered my eyes during most of those scenes.
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Mandingo?
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jolie, i don't know who you're referring to because i didn't read any criticism of spike... at least in the last few pages of this thread. i just don't agree with his opinion about this movie. 

@Jess, the mandingos are the big, burly black men who are forced to fight to the death for the entertainment of the slavemasters. sickening beyond belief. 
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Okay, I’m back

Here are my thoughts…


If I was a huge Quentin Tarintino fan and if I wasn’t educated, a conscious thinker and Black (or White), I probably would have loved this film… probably would have even called it a “masterpiece”

The gun slinging, horse-ridding, cracka killing, slave revenge fantasy was in full effect! Equipped with your typical Tarintino style Western backdrop juxtaposed to slave-era take on a blackploitation plot.


The acting was quality and so was the plot but I most definitely have gripes with a few things…

One being… it’s yet another White Hero movie. Ugh!!!

White Americans cannot, for the life of themselves, create a freaking movie on the evils of  slavery, Jim Crow, the Civil Rights movement without freaking sticking a damn White Hero in as the main damn character. Make no mistake, he was the MAIN CHARACTER! Jamie Foxx serves only as the secondary main character (if there is such thing, I think QT might have created this new role with this movie)

 

Two… why are all the most likeable characters (as in funny/well-acted/most interesting) white????  Sigh.

From the bounty hunter, plantation owners, and plantation owner’s wife to the damn KKK (it’s hard to hate a character/villain that you laugh at, right?)

Jamie Foxx had the most redeemable Black character. Every other Black character was humiliating with no agency/purpose/dept to justify the rancid humiliation. All of them seemed soulless, submissive, down-right undignified individuals who had little to no emotions (easier to hate in comparison to the grotesquely goofy and ungroomed White idiots). One could make the argument that that’s how Blacks seemed back in those days and my point is that that’s why this movie was typical. Show me a movie on slavery that humanizes these dehumanized souls in the way they deserved. I’d take that any day over a White hero that gives a Black man a gun to kill other Whities.

Why was the worst villain of all, in this movie, Samuel L Jackson’s Uncle Ruckus-in-flesh, minstrel show character? Why was his character so extra???? I mean, it was too much. Just way too cartoonish, felt fake. I feel like he had more lines than Django himself

Even worst, the most obvious underlying tone of this movie (which I predicted) was the “why didn’t them slaves just up and kill YT? Cuz they stoopid submissive Brothas! That’s why!” message.  

It’s as if Quentin was saying with this film “Well, if I was a slave I would have done THIS” which is such a pompous and arrogant way to approach this complicated history

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Can't wait to see it Thursday
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Why were there so many Black clowns in my audience, laughing at everythingggggg?

This made me so uncomfortable! The fact that people felt so free to laugh all this blood, gore and horror! How will the American audience ever approach this subject again with the same sensitivity, discretion and respect that it deserves now that this barrier has been broken? 

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