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Everyone should watch the documentary "Waiting for Superman." It explains perfectly why I think the OP is a bullsh*t copout that ignores the real issues. 

I might come back later and expound on this, but as of right now, my brain is tired and Im about to take a nap. 

ETA: It's on Netflix


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I saw it in the theaters with my kids.  another similar to it was "Bring Your "A" game. 
 
The thread I was talking about minorities not asking for help is this one
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I have watched that movie and cried both times I saw it
By the end, I was crying so hard I couldnt catch my breath. Also, Im 5ever bitter that the only child that got into a better school would have still been going to one of the top public schools in the country had she not gotten in. 


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Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:

Originally posted by BeatriceBean BeatriceBean wrote:

Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

Originally posted by BeatriceBean BeatriceBean wrote:

Being a product of a single-parent home isn't a fail, as much as the way that these single-parent homes are created.

 
And while what he said was very demoralizing as well as very myopic, I will say that the Black American community is still, in large part, very oriented around survival instead of success.
 
Even at the collegiate level, the goal of too many Black students is to graduate, instead of graduating with honors, preparing for graduate school and/or landing a job after graduation.

Aunt B always provides profundity.  Do you think it's bc many are first generation so just getting through is an accomplishment? Why do those at the collegiate level just want to get out? Disillusion?
 
Aww thanks. There are a number of factors, and yes, being first in family without having a parent or older family member to turn to for guidance can be very daunting. Many of our students don't know the appropriate ways to navigate college and often don't ask for help.
 
I was writing this and someone came in spilling major tea. I will edit this once I get my mind clear.


my brother and I were talking about this and how even if you tell a student what to do  they still will not follow through

go to xyz's office...they go, he/she is not there and they give up

go to this website....they get distracted or only go on once and never go on again

I want to know why they don't follow through

 
Oh yes. I know it all too well. A student (black) came to me this afternoon because she realized that she is failing the course and needs an A to pass. I've offered to go over the course material with her many, many times because she's one of very few black students in this course. She didn't come to my office once this entire semester and now she's in a panic for the final exam.
 
At one point, I told her that she should have been in my office months ago. She huffed and said under her breath, "See, this is why I don't come."
 
That's neither here nor there but I'm just so frustrated with this child. I wanted to sit her down like she was my own daughter. Alas, no one can want it for you.
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Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:

Originally posted by **Sk!TtLeS B** **Sk!TtLeS B** wrote:

Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:


I have watched that movie and cried both times I saw it
By the end, I was crying so hard I couldnt catch my breath. Also, Im 5ever bitter that the only child that got into a better school would have still been going to one of the top public schools in the country had she not gotten in. 


the little black boy ended up okay in the end

Yeah, that's when the second round of tears came.
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Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

The comment about failure not being looked at, as a disgrace has been true in a lot of my experiences. Everybodys experience is different but te culture of aiming to just get by is very real. It doesn't just pertain to a certain race, it's more of ppl from a certain socioeconomic status.

I didn't grow up around black or latino people who were really goal oriented. In contrast my school was all Asian and their culture was different. Where I'm from there really was no shame in dropping out of school and finding a menial job, applying for gov aid and calling it a day.

i definitely agree with the bolded ...im not even mad at him for saying that because I agree with that when it comes to the black community, too many ppl comfortable with mediocrity

even when teenage girls get pregnant they know they will not be frowned up in our communities and believe it or not i believe fear of stuff like that plays a role in it not running rampant

i could go on for ages with examples as well...it reminds me of when himay10cence made a video saying our society rewards bad behaviour
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Oh yes. I know it all too well. A student (black) came to me this afternoon because she realized that she is failing the course and needs an A to pass. I've offered to go over the course material with her many, many times because she's one of very few black students in this course. She didn't come to my office once this entire semester and now she's in a panic for the final exam.
 
At one point, I told her that she should have been in my office months ago. She huffed and said under her breath, "See, this is why I don't come."
 
That's neither here nor there but I'm just so frustrated with this child. I wanted to sit her down like she was my own daughter. Alas, no one can want it for you.
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Has her mama came to curse you out yet? Tell you're you're a coon/sell out/Uncle Tom because you didn't let her daughter pass and that you aren't looking out for your people?
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When I was growing up, you get pregnant, you get thrown out. Nowadays you get a baby shower.
 
*wonders some people thinks/believe what the end result of generational teen/unwed pregnancy is and will be*
 
Are some of us really that deep in denial?
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Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

1st grade is not the starting line...

actually, it is. 
It's in the first grade that most districts put their children on (educational) tracks, and which track they end up on is not only determined by how well they comprehend information, but how neat they are, how obedient they are, and their ability to sit still. 

The lower the track, the worse the experience. If they waited, even a couple of years, (imo) they'd be able to to get everyone onto the same level in terms of reading and math, or at the very least come very close. 

Watch the documentary, holmes. 


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ia hairdo & cream.  I said that in the pregnant again thread
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