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Lol. I was the smarter child in my classes. 
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Originally posted by lexis83 lexis83 wrote:

Bunny, that question is too open ended.

There are certain/ several factors that determine smarts.
ok, remember those 2 threads where the school districts were lowering the expectations of test scores for blacks cuz they say realistically blks did worse overall.  Many were talking about parents, resources, teachers, communities etc..  and if the average blk kid is reading at a 6th grade level by the time they are in 8th grade, how can you pick the better student when the playing field is even & they are both at the starting line?
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1st grade is not the starting line...
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Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

Originally posted by Bunnyahh Bunnyahh wrote:

Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

Originally posted by Bunnyahh Bunnyahh wrote:

when a white child is in 1st grade & a black child is in 1st grade, who is the smarter child?


The smarter child is the one that is smarter.
which is.........
 

I think you are missing my point


I am missing the point entirely
   my point is they are both at the starting point of their education.  Neither one has yet to "fall" behind due to familial, social, or economical factors which may play into their stagnation later in life
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Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

1st grade is not the starting line...
what is?
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Originally posted by callmeDEva callmeDEva wrote:

I've never met a Mexican person whose came from a single parent home. 
 
I meet young ladies w/ numerous kids by numerous different men that aren't in their kids lives..But, like the norm, the mama knew he won't ish before she spread her legs.
 
Met one yesterday that was 37 w/ 5 kids - 16 , 12, 12, 4, 3 ,different dads, none in the kids lives...The 16 yr old has an 8 month old by a 20 yr old..it tends to repeat.
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and many times when these education threads come up, I put a link to YT or PBS on a special I saw relating to it.  There was one on PBS that reminds me of this. blks & latinos falling behind.  My question is WHERE did they start to slip up
 
lemme find a link...
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Originally posted by Bunnyahh Bunnyahh wrote:

Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

Originally posted by Bunnyahh Bunnyahh wrote:

Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

Originally posted by Bunnyahh Bunnyahh wrote:

when a white child is in 1st grade & a black child is in 1st grade, who is the smarter child?


The smarter child is the one that is smarter.
which is.........
 

I think you are missing my point


I am missing the point entirely
   my point is they are both at the starting point of their education.  Neither one has yet to "fall" behind due to familial, social, or economical factors which may play into their stagnation later in life

Actually, first grade they're already behind.

Studies show that preschool children of higher income have a vocabulary that is on average larger and more complex (like 5-10 larger) than preschool children of lower income. And studies show that those same children of higher income have vocabs larger and more complex than the parents of the low income children.

Add issues of in-utero stress and health, stress, bad nutrition, environmental factors (pollution, danger, fear, domestic violence, mental health, insecure attachment, etc.). 

The playing field is never level and most children in poverty are already wayyyyyy far behind compared to their peers with higher incomes.
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Originally posted by Bunnyahh Bunnyahh wrote:

Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

1st grade is not the starting line...
what is?


At home learning and development before entering the classroom.



Edited by jonesable - Dec 11 2012 at 3:09pm
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Originally posted by BeatriceBean BeatriceBean wrote:

And while what he said was very demoralizing as well as very myopic, I will say that the Black American community is still, in large part, very oriented around survival instead of success.


This. And I do think this is emphasized in single parent homes because, well, it has to be.

Research does show that children who grow up in homes with lower parent responsiveness meet their developmental delays later and develop slower cognitively...

And it's not hard to understand why single parent homes might have lower parental responsiveness.

People love to point fingers at single parents in shame instead of exploring the true causes of the issue.

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