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Originally posted by stardaqueenb23 stardaqueenb23 wrote:

Supply side trickle down economics crushed the economy. C-levels making 40x the wages of workers and so on while the middle class shrinks.
 
make that 300+xDead
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Originally posted by Finesseful Finesseful wrote:

Originally posted by ThoughtCouture ThoughtCouture wrote:

nancyboo that was back when the rich actually built factories here...



Thats what I'm saying. Rich folks have crushed the economy with their greed by outsourcing & jacking up the price on consumer goods but have the gall to tell people they just need to work a little bit harder to climb into the 1%. The middle class is needed to keep things fair and balanced. Giving people sh*tty wages and false hope is a slap in the face. The 1% don't care to grow into a larger number because that would mean loss of control for a select few. How can you allocate resources the way you choose when they average person is just as ballerific as you are.
 
oh no!!!!!!!  jr and a few others will tell you that minimum wage, ss, ebt, a few other social programs and regulation is what crushed the economy...
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While we are worried about EBT Goldman Sachs is trading their govt bail out money and making record profits. The Waltons are micro targeting small business areas to build Walmarts.
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Outsourcing killed alot of peoples livelihood. Whole communities have been ruined by corporate greed. I've come to the conclusion the TRULY wealthy don't want everybody to live good. It's a handful of folks runnin this whole show strictly because they have old money & the means. If you can't see that it's because you choose not to.
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"extreme" right wingers have been steaming mad ever since the new deal.
 
unfortunately, after the oil crisis in the late 70's, they took the opportunity to sway the american public to their side...


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Originally posted by stardaqueenb23 stardaqueenb23 wrote:

Originally posted by ThoughtCouture ThoughtCouture wrote:

nancyboo that was back when the rich actually built factories here...

Back in the day corporations would be ashamed to outsource entire divisions and had no issue paying livable wages to employees with benefits and pensions. Now that stigma the is lifted we are here.


what was the cause?
IMO it is a combination of reasons but one is we were once proud to have American made products, labels workers etc once made in China labels became a non issue the outsourcing stigma was lifted.
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i remember when it was not cool to buy products made in taiwan.  the quality was considered cheap.
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Originally posted by stardaqueenb23 stardaqueenb23 wrote:

Originally posted by ThoughtCouture ThoughtCouture wrote:

nancyboo that was back when the rich actually built factories here...

Back in the day corporations would be ashamed to outsource entire divisions and had no issue paying livable wages to employees with benefits and pensions. Now that stigma the is lifted we are here.

right.. thats why I was surprised why anyone in their right mind would 've voted for RawMoney..
These corporations dont give a shyt about their workers. The goal of big business is to generate as much profit as possible for share holders... not to hire people. 

These same greed obsessed CEO's live Nowhere. Their country is Money and Nations are meaningless. They live in hidden private stateless countrysides bathing in privilege where they send their kids to private schools in gated communities with little to no connection to the outside world.

Blaming the poor is way to easy. 
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Originally posted by stardaqueenb23 stardaqueenb23 wrote:

While we are worried about EBT Goldman Sachs is trading their govt bail out money and making record profits. The Waltons are micro targeting small business areas to build Walmarts.


I think it's perfectly valid to be worried about both.

And honestly, if we can't figure out a way to get mobilized and fix the "small" things like waste in a food program, then we clearly aren't going to be able to do it for the big things.

But I'm pretty much a hippie socialist at heart anyway so the stuff I want is never going to happen in the US.
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There will never ever be 100% foolproof programs.

But the SNAP program is working hard at being effective and efficient .
There are studies and analysis of the program to ensure that it is operately smoothly.
There are countless studies on the error rate , overpayment rate and etc.
And it's doing ok.
If y'all talking about making the program better fine

But even that facility mentioned in the OP has financial cons.


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