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Originally posted by Flowing-Ice Flowing-Ice wrote:

Originally posted by AwesomeAries AwesomeAries wrote:

Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:


Originally posted by Flowing-Ice Flowing-Ice wrote:

why doesn't the gov take away fin aid refunds? 


I was thinking the same thing but didn't want to ask

You do realize a lot of people use financial aid refunds to pay for classes the aid won't cover
some of my friends use it to buy new laptops
some people use it to buy a car
I don't care
If you not one of the evil mutha*&%^$#@Eas in the one percent
Than I ain't trying to stop your hustle

lol what?
thats money refunded after it pays for your tuition. 

why wouldn't the government for the class? 
they have free computer access at almost all schools, nobody NEEDS a new laptop or a new car. 

people are always complaining about the one percent. but thats basically all they will do. 


Yea but most school libraries don't stay open all night though so what happens when you need to use your computer for school work once it closes. Buying a laptop to use for school work or a car to be able to actually GET to school is better than buying up bundles of weave. It's their damn refund money why should I tell them what they can spend it on? That's like me getting mad over how someone spends their tax refund money.
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Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

To add...my opinion used to be like flowings when I was younger and didn't even qualify for aid bc of my mothers income and even times bc of my own. I also didnt have any grown up responsibilities. The real world will learn you.
+ Me My first two years of college were paid by my parents and scholarships. I learned my lesson after that. The real world was like "you gone learn today."
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Originally posted by AwesomeAries AwesomeAries wrote:

Originally posted by eanaj5 eanaj5 wrote:

no, people need to be allowed to grow their own sh*t. Most people are too lazy to do it these days anyway though so i dont see what the big deal is. I could understand not being able to sell your home grown produce but growing it for personal consumption should be allowed


Check your state laws and see
that man straight up told those old people they needed a license
I know a lot of old people now grow small gardens in potted plants
y'all going after ebt dollars?
You are not on top of your political game
the government is taking away your damn rights and making damn sure you can't fend for yourself
Ebt should be the last of y'all worries right now
 
 
 
I'm not sure what the conversation is now but IA.  I've read the same thing.  I know they have "public gardens" but you can't have a garden over a certain size on your land.  Even if you own the house and the land.  To me it seems that the gov't (even if u know how to farm) doesn't want u to be able to be self sufficient.  IMO.
 
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Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

To add...my opinion used to be like flowings when I was younger and didn't even qualify for aid bc of my mothers income and even times bc of my own. I also didnt have any grown up responsibilities. The real world will learn you.


I'm glad you've grown up.
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Originally posted by ThoughtCouture ThoughtCouture wrote:

Originally posted by maysay1 maysay1 wrote:

Originally posted by ThoughtCouture ThoughtCouture wrote:

 
and that's my point.  i do NOT think non repayment is overly taxing the system.  it's VERY hard to pull off you literally have to be on some ghost face shyt.  overally, student loans stimulate the economy more than anything else...so ummm...yeah....


It's not non-repayment in and of itself that's the problem. It's the fact that because there's such high unemployment coupled with student loan debt. People can't afford to pay their student loan debt AND be the type of consumer the economy needs to survive.

And because so many people are now in the situation where they will have to default on their student loans, we're on the precipice of a student loan crisis that will be just like the mortgage crisis. And just like the mortgages, the banks will make out with huge profits and all we'll end up with is f*cked up credit and even less ability to care for ourselves.

It's really sad that we keep allowing the banks and the 1% to do this to us...but some people are waking up to what's really going on. Hopefully we all do before it's too late.
 
but of course...however, that wasn't the argument i was making.  you and me are typically >here< when it comes to banks and the bs they have been and will continue to be on.
 
but let's make no mistake about it.  student loans are a win win for the BANKS.
 
to act as though financial aid packages should consider loans first THEN grants is rediculous.  this would mean the person would have MORE loans at the end of the day than they would if the grant was in there.
 
if the issue is that the tutition/cost of living calculations need to be reviewed so be it...i'm all for that...but under the premise that it will keep young people unnecissarily bogged down in debt...NOT that it will save the tax payers a few coins...


Oh that I def agree with.

And actually, my argument against waste in the food program is similar. If SNAP recipients are spending 15% (for the sake of argument) of the funds on unnecessary food items like soda and candy, then lets take that 15% and use it to allow a few more families to get the help they need.

I'm not saying don't waste my tax dollars so I can get a refund, I'm saying don't waste my tax dollars so that more people can benefit.
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Originally posted by Flowing-Ice Flowing-Ice wrote:

Originally posted by AwesomeAries AwesomeAries wrote:

Financial aid will only cover classes pertaining to your degree
Hell I need a laptop I work I don't have time to sit at the school all day
You say that now until laquesha bring her 5 bad ass. Kids to the campus because she can't find a babysitter

why are you taking classes that aren't in your degree requirements? Confused
for fun? you're poor and trying to spend more time and money in college?

if someone brings their kid to class, i would be annoyed.
but she's trying to make a change. and good for her. but laquesha could have taken an online course to offer her more flexibility and convenience. Smile

Besides credits pertaining to your degree you still have to take a certain amount of general elective credits, some of which may or may not have a thing to do with your major but you still have to take simply because you have to have a certain amount of credits in order to graduate.
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most likely my opinion will never change, because my reality will never be similar to what you guys coin "the real world". 

i lean to the right. i understand your points, but with all those things that we are doing, we still don't have a valuable workforce. thats a call to rethink what we are doing. 
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Originally posted by Flowing-Ice Flowing-Ice wrote:

fin aid packages have more than just loans sang. 
scholarships, school grants, fed grants and loans are offered.

there are students that are quick to take more than they need. even with all the other things made to try to help them not take that much loan money. 

No sh*t Sherlock. 
But the school won't accept more than the total cost of living budget. 
If the bank were to try to send the money they wouldn't accept it. 

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Originally posted by stardaqueenb23 stardaqueenb23 wrote:

Originally posted by Midwest_Da_Gawd Midwest_Da_Gawd wrote:

Smh student loans are for suckas anyway.

I tell these lil Brothas
all the time, if you aint got no scholarship to the university don't
waste your time and money. You can start off at a junior college and transfer
later. Brothas love to make sh*t unnecessarily hard for themselves.

But of course, that's only if you even want to go to college in the first place. *sips Kool Aid*

Most Junior colleges are expensive as hell these days, especially the for profit institutions. If you do not know exactly what college you are transferring to a lot of those credits are non transferable.
I missed deadlines in High school to apply to my college of choice so I went to a "junior" college for a year and a half. When I transferred my 70+ credits they only accepted 15. That "junior" college cost about only 2k less a semester than the private top ranked Jesuit University I attended when I left.

LMAO how you gon be signing up for classes and not know whether or not they will transfer out?!

Most people who go to junior colleges (for an associates) have the 4-year school(s) that they're interested in transferring to in mind as they take their courses. And they match the courses that their taking there to the requirements of the university and plan accordingly. Well, that's what you're supposed to do.
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