Should the govt give rations instead of EBT?

iGotSunshine wrote: babyk94 wrote: Do you guys think people should be on welfare for their whole life? I always thought there should be some type of program or something to help people gradually be able come of it and support themeselves but, idk. That would be really expensive.   There is a limit.   There is a program. Right now it in the beginning stages and is geared towards the elderly and disabled on section 8.   They are helping them own property in nice neighborhoods.   My aunt just bought a house in a nice neighborhood for 92k with the help of Section 8. All she had to do was raise 5k for the downpayment and each month she has to put $100 into an escrow account that cannot be touched. The money can only be used for repairs on the house. (ie a plumbing problem or whatever)   I think this a good thing. It breaks the cycle of poverty, locates them to better neighborhoods and they have something to leave to their children/grandchildren.   They also had to go to 4 classes to learn how to be a responsible homeowner etc..     Also it's sad that you all think the majority on welfare are just sitting on their ass. That's so not the case. My mommy works in social services. Many are people with little to no education working minimum wage jobs and need the extra help.   Having them line up for rations? Really? You think they get paid leave? Most of them will be at work. They cannot leave a minimum wage job to stand in line for food. Many of them work just like many of you work.   It's sad that you all have bought into the elitist view of what welfare is.

Flowing-Ice wrote: ms_wonderland wrote: Who is taking out loans for no reason? You're not getting a dime unless you're taking a certain # of classes and your grades stay up. There's only so many ppl who can continue to take advantage of the system. have you ever spent money from refund checks on luxury shoes clothes/hair? how many people that you know do this? you don't have to answer me, but thats your answer. its on a large scale, no denying that.  along with other issues in the school system itself, its time we rethink the way we go about where we put our funding.

No...last semester I got back 200 dollars and after paying for books I ended up paying out of pocket. Won't be the last time. I took one less class this semester so I'd get more of my loan money back and that's going twds book, gas, and train.

Some ppl do take advantage but not enough to get rid of the program. They can only keep receiving money if they stay off academic probation so if they're buying hair or handbags that's their biz.

Edited by ms_wonderland - Jan 18 2013 at 2:00pm

Midwest_Da_Gawd wrote: Smh student loans are for suckas anyway. I tell these lil Brothas all the time, if you aint got no scholarship to the university don't waste your time and money. You can start off at a junior college and transfer later. Brothas love to make sh*t unnecessarily hard for themselves. But of course, that's only if you even want to go to college in the first place. *sips Kool Aid*

Most Junior colleges are expensive as hell these days, especially the for profit institutions. If you do not know exactly what college you are transferring to a lot of those credits are non transferable.
I missed deadlines in High school to apply to my college of choice so I went to a "junior" college for a year and a half. When I transferred my 70+ credits they only accepted 15. That "junior" college cost about only 2k less a semester than the private top ranked Jesuit University I attended when I left.

To add...my opinion used to be like flowings when I was younger and didn't even qualify for aid bc of my mothers income and even times bc of my own. I also didnt have any grown up responsibilities. The real world will learn you.

maysay1 wrote: ThoughtCouture wrote:   and that's my point.  i do NOT think non repayment is overly taxing the system.  it's VERY hard to pull off you literally have to be on some ghost face shyt.  overally, student loans stimulate the economy more than anything else...so ummm...yeah.... It's not non-repayment in and of itself that's the problem. It's the fact that because there's such high unemployment coupled with student loan debt. People can't afford to pay their student loan debt AND be the type of consumer the economy needs to survive. And because so many people are now in the situation where they will have to default on their student loans, we're on the precipice of a student loan crisis that will be just like the mortgage crisis. And just like the mortgages, the banks will make out with huge profits and all we'll end up with is f*cked up credit and even less ability to care for ourselves. It's really sad that we keep allowing the banks and the 1% to do this to us...but some people are waking up to what's really going on. Hopefully we all do before it's too late.

Edited by ThoughtCouture - Jan 18 2013 at 2:08pm