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Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:

There will never ever be 100% foolproof programs.

But the SNAP program is working hard at being effective and efficient .
There are studies and analysis of the program to ensure that it is operately smoothly.
There are countless studies on the error rate , overpayment rate and etc.
And it's doing ok.
If y'all talking about making the program better fine

But even that facility mentioned in the OP has financial cons.


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Originally posted by ThoughtCouture ThoughtCouture wrote:

 
well...as a person who deals with analyzing HUMONGOUS volumes of data on a day in and day out basis, you cannot pop a tic tac into a whales mouth and think it is going to make a difference in it's funky azz breath...


Lol true.

But this is a simple fix. New regulation...SNAP funds are only allowed to be spent on actual food (meaning no juice, soda, drink mix, etc.).

If every SNAP family was spending 100$ of their monthly benefit on drinks, that's now $100 more available for actual food. In this case, the benefit certainly outweighs the cost. Especially since the cost actually isn't that high.

Of course, the gov't isn't going to do that. Why? Because they are paid by the drink companies (through campaign donations, investment returns, etc.).
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Originally posted by maysay1 maysay1 wrote:

Originally posted by ThoughtCouture ThoughtCouture wrote:

maysay but the fact that the focus is on pennies doesn't make good common sense to me.  that in itself is a waste of resources...imo.  nah...let's focus on the big chips...


To me, every penny counts. Especially if that money could be used to give one more family the food assistance they need.

People were mad as hell here when Governor Brown told some state workers they had to return their ipads because they didn't need them. On the one hand, you could say why worry about 400$? But on the other hand, whether it's 400 dollars or 400 million dollars, waste is waste.


 
 
well...as a person who deals with analyzing HUMONGOUS volumes of data on a day in and day out basis, you cannot pop a tic tac into a whales mouth and think it is going to make a difference in it's funky azz breath...
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But it takes more than a penny to hunt that penny down

You still have to weigh the difference of recognizing and accepting waste vs using more man power and other resources to stop it
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Originally posted by ThoughtCouture ThoughtCouture wrote:

maysay but the fact that the focus is on pennies doesn't make good common sense to me.  that in itself is a waste of resources...imo.  nah...let's focus on the big chips...


To me, every penny counts. Especially if that money could be used to give one more family the food assistance they need.

People were mad as hell here when Governor Brown told some state workers they had to return their ipads because they didn't need them. On the one hand, you could say why worry about 400$? But on the other hand, whether it's 400 dollars or 400 million dollars, waste is waste.


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Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:

There will never ever be 100% foolproof programs.

But the SNAP program is working hard at being effective and efficient .
There are studies and analysis of the program to ensure that it is operately smoothly.
There are countless studies on the error rate , overpayment rate and etc.
And it's doing ok.
If y'all talking about making the program better fine

But even that facility mentioned in the OP has financial cons.
 
i'm for continuous improvement as well...but some of this is not aimed at improvement at all...it's about something else...
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im all for democratic socialism..
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maysay but the fact that the focus is on pennies doesn't make good common sense to me.  that in itself is a waste of resources...imo.  nah...let's focus on the big chips...
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There will never ever be 100% foolproof programs.

But the SNAP program is working hard at being effective and efficient .
There are studies and analysis of the program to ensure that it is operately smoothly.
There are countless studies on the error rate , overpayment rate and etc.
And it's doing ok.
If y'all talking about making the program better fine

But even that facility mentioned in the OP has financial cons.


Edited by jonesable - Jan 18 2013 at 3:38pm
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