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    Posted: Dec 05 2013 at 11:35am

Americans Want Congress Members To Pee In Cups To Prove They're Not On Drugs

WASHINGTON -- While most Americans like the idea of drug testing for welfare recipients, they LOVE the idea of drug testing for members of Congress.

According to a new HuffPost/YouGov poll, 64 percent of Americans favor requiring welfare recipients to submit to random drug testing -- a measure pushed by Republican lawmakers in recent years -- while 18 percent oppose it. But an even stronger majority said they're in favor of random drug testing for members of Congress, by a 78 percent to 7 percent margin. Sixty-two percent said they "strongly" favor drug testing for congressional lawmakers, compared to only 51 percent who said the same of welfare recipients.


The House of Representatives passed legislation this year that would allow states to require food stamp recipients to pee in cups to prove they're not on drugs. In 2012, Republicans pushed for drug testing of people seeking unemployment insurance benefits when they lose their jobs. At the state level, GOP lawmakers across the country have sought drug testing for an array of safety net programs. (Politicians sometimes refer to means-tested government benefits in general as "welfare," although the term is more commonly a nickname for the relatively small Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program.)

Democrats have frequently suggested that if drug tests are good for people getting a hand from the government, then they're good for people running the government, too. Republicans usually don't go along with that idea -- the Kansas state legislature is one recent exception -- but voters heartily approve.

While drug testing for both welfare recipients and lawmakers received support across party lines in the new poll, the congressional proposal was the one more likely to bring Americans together. Eighty-six percent of Republicans, 77 percent of Democrats and 75 percent of independents said they want drug testing for members of Congress.

Republicans felt especially strongly about drug testing of welfare recipients, with 87 percent favoring it and only 9 percent opposed. Among Democrats, 50 percent favored and 28 percent opposed drug testing of welfare recipients, while independents were in favor by a 64 percent to 16 percent margin.

If a member of Congress is caught using illegal drugs, as Rep. Trey Radel (R-Fla.) was in late October, Americans expressed little inclination to show mercy. Sixty-six percent said that a member of Congress convicted of possessing a small amount of cocaine should be forced to resign, while only 14 percent favored allowing the convicted member to serve out the remainder of his or her term.

Americans consider drug testing to be a no-brainer under a variety of circumstances, according to the survey. Seventy-two percent said they support random drug testing for members of the military, and 87 percent supported it for airline pilots. Seventy-one percent said they support random drug testing for professional athletes.


Do you favor or oppose requiring members of Congress to submit to random drug testing?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/02/drug-testing-congress_n_4373472.html




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Girl all those coke heads on the hill would die before they piss in a cup.
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I bet you weed and cocaine will be legal the next day and won't take no more than 1 minute voting.
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i am very much in favor of this.  and i think they should also have to take random lie detector tests...Stern Smile

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I fukks wit that 
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Bc the drug use would affect their ability to legislate or a quasi morality test or bc other jobs have drug testing so they should too?



Cocaine and crack and other hard users scare me.

I don't care if ppl use green.
THC should be overlooked.
Like who gives a damn

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yes. Look at Mayor Quimby in Toronto! 
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Toronto Mayor Rob Ford may have tried to buy crack video: police documents

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Toronto Mayor Rob Ford is surrounded by cameras as he waits for an elevator at Toronto City Hall, to attend a council meeting, on November 15, 2013 in Toronto, Ontario. Toronto city councillors voted to limit their crack-smoking mayor's powers Friday after his latest obscene outburst.

By Cameron French, Reuters

TORONTO, Canada -- Toronto Mayor Rob Ford may have offered cash and a car to buy a video allegedly showing him using crack cocaine, according to notes from police wiretaps.

Details of the alleged offer were included in a 450-page police document released on Wednesday by an Ontario Superior Court judge after a petition by media lawyers.

Ford admitted early last month he had smoked crack cocaine, saying it was probably "in one of my drunken stupors," but he said he is not an addict and does not need help. That and other allegations of conduct unbecoming of a public official have led to widespread protests calling for his resignation.

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Hours after being stripped of most of his powers in a raucous city council meeting, Toronto Mayor Rob Ford and his brother Councilman Doug Ford sit down with TODAY's Matt Lauer to discuss the scandal-scarred's lawmaker's run of bad behavior.

Ford has not been formally charged with any crimes, and he has refused to step down. He has been stripped of most of his powers by a hostile city council, but it does not have the power to unilaterally remove him.

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On Wednesday, Ford walked past reporters outside his office without responding to requests for comment on the police document. A request for comment emailed to the mayor's office was not answered.

The existence of an alleged video was initially reported in May by the Toronto Star newspaper and media website Gawker. Ford said at the time that he could not comment on a video he had not seen "or does not exist."

But according to police notes of a recorded phone conversation involving two suspected gang members, Ford was aware of the video's existence in March, and offered to buy it.

Police notes described a conversation, primarily in Somali, between the two alleged gang members in reference to Ford:

"Remember that day he said that in front of me?" one said to the other in a transcript translated by police. "Ya," the other replied. "He said I'll give you five thousand and a car.....", apparently referring to C$5,000 ($4,700).

That offer was rejected, according to the notes summarizing the wiretaps. Ford was not part of that or any other wiretapped conversation, according to an initial reading of the notes released in the document.

Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair would not comment directly on the document, saying only that it was the responsibility of police to gather evidence.

"I don't believe it appropriate for police to comment on the evidence. Our job is to put it before the courts," he told reporters.

The wiretaps came during a year-long police investigation called Project Traveler for which they tracked conversations of dozens of people. In June, officials made dozens of arrests, including Ford's friend and part-time driver Sandro Lisi, who was detained on drug and extortion charges.

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It's another embarrassing caught-on-tape moment for Toronto mayor Rob Ford when he knocks down a female city council member. NBC's Brian Williams reports.

Lisi has not commented publicly on the charges, and his lawyer could not immediately be reached for comment.

An earlier release of police investigative documents included allegations, also unproven, that Ford had driven while drunk, and had been abusive with staffers.

The Toronto city council, which does not have the power to fire Ford, last month voted to remove much of his authority and give it to deputy mayor Norm Kelly.

Meanwhile, polls have shown Ford's popularity on the wane, although he still commands substantial support from his main base of support in Toronto's suburbs.

He has vowed to run again in next year's municipal election.

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