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    Posted: Feb 01 2004 at 12:59am

hey guys, i was just on the internet surfing and i came across this info.. it is the ph of the most common relaxer systems

The pH balance determines how harsh the chemical is. Research has shown that the lower the pH, the less damaging the product is to your hair. Water has a pH of 7. Anything less than 7 is considered acidic. The lower this number gets the greater the acidity. Any pH greater than 7 is considered alkaline. The higher the number gets the greater the alkalinity.

A one point difference in pH’s could have a significant impact on your hair A product with a pH of 13 is 10 times more alkaline than a product with a pH of 12. This same product would be 100 times more alkaline than a product with a pH of 11. The pH levels even tend to vary among the same products from batch to batch. A relaxer that worked great for you the last time you touched up, may cause more damage to your hair the next time you use it. It’s worth noting that the pH balance of Liquid Drano is 13.3.

The information gathered came from September 1999 edition of Consumer Reports and is not reported in any particular order. Its corresponding pH balance follows the product name/description.

1. TCB Bone Strait No-Lye Relaxer contains lithium hydroxide: 12.8
2. Revlon Realistic Extra Conditioning Crème Relaxer System contains sodium hydroxide: 13.2
3. Gentle Treatment No-lye Conditioning Crème Relaxer contains lithium hydroxide, guanidine carbonate and calcium hydroxide: 13.0
4. Soft and Beautiful No-lye Conditioning Relaxer Regular contains guanidine carbonate and calcium hydroxide: 13.1
5. Curl Free Natural Curl Relaxer contains ammonium bisulfite: 7.6
6. Dark & Lovely No-lye Conditioning Relaxer System contains guanidine carbonate and calcium hydroxide: 13.0
7. Revlon Crème of Nature No-lye Crème Relaxer System contains guanidine carbonate and calcium hydroxide: 13.1
8. African Pride Miracle Deep Conditioning No-lye Relaxer System contains guanidine carbonate and calcium hydroxide: 13.3
9. Soft Sheen Alternatives No-lye Relaxer System contains guanidine carbonate and calcium hydroxide: 13.3
10. Optimum Care No-Lye Relaxer guanidine contains guanidine carbonate and calcium hydroxide: 13.2
11. Rusk Radical Anti-curl Original Formula 1 contains Ammonium thioglycolate: 9.1
12. Revlon Realistic Crème Relaxer System 1 contains sodium hydroxide: 13.3

The following relaxer pHs were taken from, "Don't Go Shopping for Hair Care Products Without Me" by Paula Begoun.

13. At One with Nature Botanical Strongends Sensitive Scalp Relaxer, Regular w/ Herbs and Moisturizers: 14
14. Dark & Lovely Beautiful Beginnings No-mistake No-lye Children's Relaxer System Regular: 13
15. Dark & Lovely Plus Ultra-Deep Conditioning No-Lye Relaxer System: 12
16. Luster's Pink Conditioning Super No-lye Crème Relaxer: 14
17. Raveen No-Lye Conditioning Crème Relaxer with Multiple Conditioners: 14
18. Revlon Crème of Nature No-Lye Crème Relaxer System: 13
19. Revlon Fabulaxer Multiple Conditioning No-lye Relaxer Kit: 13
20. Soft & Beautiful Just for Me No-Lye Conditioning Crème Relaxer, Children's Formula: 14
21. Soft & Beautiful Super No-lye Conditioning
Relaxer: 14
22. TCB Naturals No-Lye Relaxer, Regular with Olive Oil, Aloe and Henna: 14

The manufacturers provided the following relaxer pH’s:

23. Dark & Lovely Beautiful Beginnings Relaxer for Fine Hair: 10.25
24. Phytospecific Index 1 Relaxer for Fine Hair: 9-12
25. Phytospecific Index 2 Relaxer for Coarse Hair: 9-12
26. Lady Velvet Lye Relaxer: 10-13

NOTE: One of the chemists for the Lady Velvet Lye Relaxer indicated that after attending a conference in England for relaxers that no one should use a relaxer with a pH balance of 12.5 or greater.


A major problem encountered as we followed up on this assignment was that pH balances were not indicated on the relaxers. You had to go to other sources to find this information. Some product manufacturers were not willing to freely part with this information. In another case, a member was transferred throughout the company in an effort to locate someone who even knew the pH balance of their product. Finally, the member was directed to their personal hairdresser who forgot the pH balance of the product. This point is being made because it appears that possibly the manufacturers do not feel that this information is relevant enough to include in their packaging.

As consumers, don’t we have the right to know? Unless we can force the FDA to require manufacturers to label their products with this information, we will never know what we are getting unless we do our own research. We need to initiate a letter writing campaign to our congressperson and the FDA to request that they add a requirement to their cosmetic labeling guidelines to include the pH balances on relaxers.

Other relaxer information:

There are several types of relaxer chemicals: 1. ammonium bisulfite and ammonium thioglycolate 2. calcium hydroxide and guanidine carbonate, and 3. sodium hydroxide (lye). The most damaging chemicals tend to be calcium hydroxide and guanidine carbonate and sodium hydroxide. Most "no-lye" relaxers are based on the calcium hydroxide and guanidine carbonate chemicals. Ammonium bisulfite and ammonium thioglycolate are the least damaging of the chemicals and are normally used as texturizers because they do not get the hair as straight.

Note: A texturizer should never be done on previously relaxed hair because it will eventually disintegrate the relaxed portion of the hair.

When relaxing your hair it is important to read the product directions to determine how long a specific relaxer should be left in. For fine or previously damaged hair the time should be no longer than 13 minutes, for medium-strength or slightly damaged hair the time should be no longer than 15 minutes, and for coarse, resistant or minimally damaged hair the time should be no longer than 20 minutes. These are just guidelines and would vary of course depending on the texture and condition of your hair.

The importance of a neutralizer cannot be stressed enough. It is needed to stop the processing of the relaxer. It should be left in the hair for a minimum of 5 minutes. It takes at least that long for the active ingredients of the neutralizer to penetrate all three layers of the hair shaft and bring the pH of the hair down to normal. If the neutralizing shampoo is rinsed from the hair too soon, the neutralizing action may stop while the pH of the relaxer is still in a high alkaline state. This can cause breakage and shedding because some of the relaxer’s active ingredients are still in the inner-hair causing rapid deterioration. If your hair was in good condition prior to relaxing, and then starts to break or shed after the relaxer treatment, this is probably due to improper neutralizing.

Before using any chemical process, please remember that your hair needs to be in the best possible condition. Relaxing damaged hair will only compound your problems. Since relaxing is very hard on the hair, the importance of proper care and appropriate follow-up treatment cannot be stressed enough.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb 01 2004 at 3:35pm
woo girl! thanks for all the research!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb 02 2004 at 6:30pm
 Hi, I'm new to this forum,but I'm not understanding which relaxers would be ok to use.
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 Thanks. I'm new to this forum, but which perms were suggested to use?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb 02 2004 at 6:34pm
the lower the ph the better. if i ever relaxed again, i would probably choose #5 on the list. it seems the most ph balanced to our hair. also! did you know that just for me kiddie perm has a higher ph than MOST of the adult perms mentioned?!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb 03 2004 at 9:24am
 Wow what powerful information about the p.h in relaxers, can anyone tell me where you can find the Phytospecific Index perm, I have never heard of it. Do they have a web site? or the Rusk Radical Anti-Curl Original Formula? I would really appreciate it. I want the perms with the lowest p.h.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb 03 2004 at 12:07pm

Originally posted by weaveitup^_^ weaveitup^_^ wrote:

the lower the ph the better. if i ever relaxed again, i would probably choose #5 on the list. it seems the most ph balanced to our hair. also! did you know that just for me kiddie perm has a higher ph than MOST of the adult perms mentioned?!

 

Thanks. This is good but I don't want my hair to come out curly, so is there another one you suggest that would really straighten my hair to the fullest.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb 03 2004 at 1:39pm
Originally posted by MS WILD PASSION MS WILD PASSION wrote:

Originally posted by weaveitup^_^ weaveitup^_^ wrote:

the lower the ph the better. if i ever relaxed again, i would probably choose #5 on the list. it seems the most ph balanced to our hair. also! did you know that just for me kiddie perm has a higher ph than MOST of the adult perms mentioned?!

 

Thanks. This is good but I don't want my hair to come out curly, so is there another one you suggest that would really straighten my hair to the fullest.

It's not good to relax all of the curls out of your hair.  This is the main reason why black hair breaks so easily.  It's much healthier to underprocess the hair so that the hair retains some wave, and then use a curling iron to get the hair straight. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb 03 2004 at 1:47pm
Originally posted by sweet_c sweet_c wrote:

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It's not good to relax all of the curls out of your hair.  This is the main reason why black hair breaks so easily.  It's much healthier to underprocess the hair so that the hair retains some wave, and then use a curling iron to get the hair straight. 

You are right about not relaxing all the curls out of my hair. I use a curling iron, but I have to use it everyday. I sleep rather wild, and although my hair is wrapped in a satin scarf, when I wake up the next morning, my hair has fell flat, and it's all bent (if you know what I mean) so I have to flat iron, or curl it everyday, but I don't like putting that much heat to my hair. What else can I use, to maintain that straight look, without having to use the heat everyday?

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