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yes!


supposedly modern science is able to measure the physical mechanisms of the brain but it does not sufficiently explain the ghost in the machine. what is it? is it like rays from the sun or waves from the ocean, seemingly completely separate on the surface but actually only an extension of the source. is it immortal? what is the source?






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Wow

I guess the comfy term is soul?

I get it. I mean, I don't lmao. But I know what you mean.

The ghost in the machine is probably the most brilliant form of ourselves.

But we're polluted with being "human" so to speak once we break the trance.

It explains how powerful a machine we are, once we remove consciousness.

Tibetan monks immediately come to mind.

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Originally posted by SeducTress SeducTress wrote:

Originally posted by newdiva1 newdiva1 wrote:

ugh.  of course it's not available anymore.


Use the first link, version 2. That's the one I streamed.
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Starrygurl Starrygurl wrote:

My butt was watching X-men now I am watching Total Recall.LOL And I have to watch that Cafe movie sounds interesting.
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Starrygurl Starrygurl wrote:

Found this on the other site. Interesting. Montalk website recently, and it speaks of Spiritless Humans and how they manifest their lives through materialism and die void of anything dissolving into nothingness.

Here is a short paragraph or two here...

"It seems not all humans have spirit. Therefore they have no self-awareness, individuality, wisdom, empathy, creative intelligence, or conscience. What further confirms this hypothesis is that, as will be discussed below, one may observe a total absence of destiny, synchronicity, symbolic dreams, spiritual lessons, soul growth, and karma in their lives. This is to be expected if they have nothing permanent in them that survives death and reincarnates, because only spirit can gain from such things. Without spirit, they are temporary beings whose awareness forms shortly before birth and dissolves shortly after death. And if so, then for them, spiritual life lessons serve no purpose, karma from past lives does not exist, there is no higher Self acting as chaperone, nor would they have genuine interest in anything that serves a purpose beyond their current mortal existence. Therefore it is to be expected that they be particularly materialistic, worldly, and mundane in their ambitions; observation confirms this as well. "

Do you guys think they exist? Am I or You one of these?
 
 
I read a romance novel (chut up) last year and this was the premise.  A dude was born without a soul/spirit.  He knew it.  He was tryna get this witches book that had a spell in there that could possibly help him out with this.  Of course sh*t happens.  The witch ends up splitting her soul to save him.  She loses her powers tho because so much was required.  It was actually a good quick read.
 
that said..to answer your question...I think it's entirely possible.  They way alot of these humans act out here.  It's been said at one time or another.   Does that man have a soul?  well...possibly not.
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Originally posted by noneyons noneyons wrote:

makes sense, neka. but here's a video (that i've posted a few times before in different threads) that explains it better than i can.

 
 
 
I watched this last year during a documentary phase I was going thru on Netflix.  It was a good watch...interesting theories.  I think I posted a review in the last movie thread we had.


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Originally posted by SeducTress SeducTress wrote:

LOL

I took it as if we are our thoughts who the hell is home when we make a conscious decision to pause our thoughts. It's sort of trippy because "whomever" is present while meditating is probably a far better version of yourself. Sans all the bullsh*t we put ourselves through mentally daily.

So, nones in the meditative state isn't her thoughts. Because your thoughts are compromised by so much bullsh*t. Conditioning, judgement, etc, etc.

This applies to me. Everyone.

So, when we're meditating and we cease thoughts who are we. Really. Who's that version of ourselves. If we are in fact, our thoughts.

Similar to that nauseating feeling you get when you pull up to your house, and you could have SWORN you turned off your lights...but they're on and you're outside staring at your crib, like, is somebody in there?

BlahLOL
 
 
 
I sometimes think that voice u hear is your Higher self...a godlike u (no blaspheme)  tellin' yourself what u need to do in any given situation.  Not some devil or summin' trying to get u.
 
 
I was tole that on the same token that you can see your true self if u look into your own eyes in a mirror. If you're in that meditative state. Now I ain't try that one so I can't tell u.  When I do I'll let y'all know what happened.LOL


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Originally posted by Starrygurl Starrygurl wrote:

Found this on the other site. Interesting. Montalk website recently, and it speaks of Spiritless Humans and how they manifest their lives through materialism and die void of anything dissolving into nothingness.

Here is a short paragraph or two here...

"It seems not all humans have spirit. Therefore they have no self-awareness, individuality, wisdom, empathy, creative intelligence, or conscience. What further confirms this hypothesis is that, as will be discussed below, one may observe a total absence of destiny, synchronicity, symbolic dreams, spiritual lessons, soul growth, and karma in their lives. This is to be expected if they have nothing permanent in them that survives death and reincarnates, because only spirit can gain from such things. Without spirit, they are temporary beings whose awareness forms shortly before birth and dissolves shortly after death. And if so, then for them, spiritual life lessons serve no purpose, karma from past lives does not exist, there is no higher Self acting as chaperone, nor would they have genuine interest in anything that serves a purpose beyond their current mortal existence. Therefore it is to be expected that they be particularly materialistic, worldly, and mundane in their ambitions; observation confirms this as well. "

Do you guys think they exist? Am I or You one of these?

saw this last night and it really made me think. scary to think that some people have no spirit but it is quite possible. 

but then again, i wonder if these people would be considered infant souls on the whole soul age plane if there is such a thing. 

http://www.michaelteachings.com/soul_ages.html

Soul Ages

Excerpt from "The World According to Michael"
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INFANT SOULS

The fragment, or essence, just cast out from the Tao, is raw, without experience, and usually enmeshed in a struggle over physical survival on the unfamiliar earth plane. Thus the Infant Soul stage is one characterized by many fears. Often, there is a frightened, furtive, animal-like look in their eyes. In this stage people are often born into primitive, sometimes tribal, conditions. Learning how to survive is the primary concern. So, Infant Souls learn to identify and find roots, berries and other edibles: they fish, they hunt and grow food; they build shelter to keep dry and warm or cool; and they learn to avoid predators.

To our eyes, Infant Soul lifetimes look pretty rough. They are often short. Famine, plagues, drought, flooding, hurricanes, earthquakes, tigers, bears, poisonous snakes and combat are experienced along with every other survival threat imaginable.

On the positive side, being so fresh from the Tao can give a mystical flavor to Infant Souls. They resonate closely with nature and many times feel not individuation but great oneness with everyone in their family or tribe. They can be intuitive and earthy in a simple, unquestioning way. They have the knack, all too soon forgotten, for living in the moment.

The intellectual center does not become fully opened in this phase, so there isn't yet much feeling for ethics or personal morality. The Infant Soul has to be taught what is right and wrong. Even a highly intelligent person may seem dull or not quite pulled together with his or her thinking.

Cooking and eating are strictly exercises in survival, not even close to being opportunities for optimizing pleasure. Love or sexuality will be experienced on the level of lust. Questions like, "How can I get him (or her) to like me?" basically do not arise unless it becomes a survival issue. Survival is what is important, and whatever needs to be done for survival is done. The Infant Soul can sometimes be driven to violence or extreme self-protective behavior by a merely unfamiliar happening.

Infant Souls tend to cluster around the equator because the constant climate makes some aspects of survival more simple. Rural Guatamala, El Salvador, Honduras, Sri Lanka, Borneo, New Guinea, the Amazon basin and much of Ethiopia and Sudan are areas with predominantly Infant Souls; Iraq and Iran have them in increasing numbers.

Our society is ordinarily too perplexing and complex in its demands to be a place Infant Souls feel comfortable choosing. When found in the United States, which is rare, they will generally gravitate towards less populated, "backwoods" areas. Infant Souls will not tend to seek regular employment because it is too complicated and involving to handle. Living on the fringes of society, they are often viewed by the rest of the population as inept or slightly out of tune.

Infant Souls rarely come into the spotlight except through notoriety brought about by heavy karma-creating lifetimes. Richard Ramirez, the California serial murderer who became known as the Nightstalker, exemplifies that type of celebrity. He is a late Infant Soul enmeshed in a lifetime of intense experience and intense karma formation. Willie Horton, the Massachusetts prisoner who escaped while on a weekend furlough and went on to rape a woman and stab her then-fiance, is another karmic Infant Soul who, with his actions, called into question the wisdom of Governor Dukakis' liberal prison reforms. With his Stockton, California, schoolyard massacre, Patrick Purdy, another Infant Soul, gave new fervor to the gun control debate.

Joel Steinberg, who was sentenced for up to 25 years in the killing of his young adopted daughter, was unusually sophisticated for an Infant Soul in that he chose to and was able to become an attorney. Steinberg had the awareness that he needed to be exceedingly heedful with his image, that it was important to watch carefully how he appeared to others. The sentencing judge, in fact, accused him of extraordinary narcissism and self-involvement.

Commenting further, the judge said, "I have come to believe he is incapable of accepting responsibility." Typical Infant Souls don't yet feel regret; and when they get into court, their lack of conscience stands out.

Planet Earth is close to the time when the last Infant Soul will incarnate.

Many fewer are beginning cycles here now than even one hundred years ago. Though there are still many entities checking the planet out, most will decide to look elsewhere. Earth is a little worn, there is much hard work ahead and most entities prefer to start a "round" with the score card a little fresher.

Because the median soul age on the planet is currently edging into Mature, any soul incarnating for the first time will be pushed into a continual catch-up game. While being so far behind mainstream consciousness is an interesting experiment, it is, Michael says, not much fun when the gap is so large.




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I don't know for sure, but I think comedies are the best thing to watch, because you get on a good mood, you laugh, and you're carefree for a moment. Some say that laugh is the best medicine, so I wonder if comedies are happiness' prescription.
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