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Homosexuality actually is accepted to some degree in Japan.  For example, same sex households are recognized...you just can't have a homosexual wedding in Japan.  Homosexual sex is accepted to a degree--just hang out on a Saturday night at Shinjuku Ni-chome for proof.  The only thing is that it is not considered something a lot of people take seriously and parents expect their gay children to marry people of the opposite sex and reproduce.  Those who are out are widely accepted, but usually as outlandish caricatures of gays.  The word for these types of gays is "okama" and it is seen as a pejorative term among anyone who is a caricature.  There are even gay pride parades in Tokyo.

It is both accepted and not accepted, but in a completely different way than it is in the west.


But is it really accepted if someone still expects you to marry someone who you're clearly not attracted to or to only be "accepting" of those who come across as overtly "gay" because that's easier to wrap their head around than a more masculine man who happens to be gay? IMO, in that respect, that's no different than here. Sure, in major cities for the most part people don't bother you and don't really care what you do. But you still have people with relatives who still try to fix them up with someone hetero, "tolerate" pride parades, or are extremely shocked when they find out someone is gay who doesn't "seem" gay to them etc.
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if i didn't want their money and penises, I wouldn't even deal with men.  they are sooooo annoying.

and based on that recent HIV thread all y'all Brothas is gay no matter what.


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Originally posted by modelbusiness82 modelbusiness82 wrote:

Originally posted by TokyoRose TokyoRose wrote:

Homosexuality actually is accepted to some degree in Japan.  For example, same sex households are recognized...you just can't have a homosexual wedding in Japan.  Homosexual sex is accepted to a degree--just hang out on a Saturday night at Shinjuku Ni-chome for proof.  The only thing is that it is not considered something a lot of people take seriously and parents expect their gay children to marry people of the opposite sex and reproduce.  Those who are out are widely accepted, but usually as outlandish caricatures of gays.  The word for these types of gays is "okama" and it is seen as a pejorative term among anyone who is a caricature.  There are even gay pride parades in Tokyo.

It is both accepted and not accepted, but in a completely different way than it is in the west.


But is it really accepted if someone still expects you to marry someone who you're clearly not attracted to or to only be "accepting" of those who come across as overtly "gay" because that's easier to wrap their head around than a more masculine man who happens to be gay? IMO, in that respect, that's no different than here. Sure, in major cities for the most part people don't bother you and don't really care what you do. But you still have people with relatives who still try to fix them up with someone hetero, "tolerate" pride parades, or are extremely shocked when they find out someone is gay who doesn't "seem" gay to them etc.


I'd say it is acceptance, just in a different way.  Here, the more important matter is not necessarily if a child is gay or not.  The important thing in Japan is if a child is able to reproduce or not.

One of my friends actually said the idea of "coming out" in the US does not necessarily work for many gays in Japan.  He said that some gays don't really want to "come out."  There are many gays who are okay with just marrying someone for kids and having a boyfriend or girlfriend on the side.  There are others who do want things to be the way they are in the US. 

Stories about family members shunning gay children and violence against gays is nowhere near as high as it is in the US.  Sad to say, but a child is more likely to be shunned (in some cases) by family for marrying a foreigner, than being gay.

I don't even know if the word "tolerate" is even appropriate.  I feel it's more indifference or curiosity. 
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Originally posted by TokyoRose TokyoRose wrote:

Originally posted by modelbusiness82 modelbusiness82 wrote:

Originally posted by TokyoRose TokyoRose wrote:

Homosexuality actually is accepted to some degree in Japan.  For example, same sex households are recognized...you just can't have a homosexual wedding in Japan.  Homosexual sex is accepted to a degree--just hang out on a Saturday night at Shinjuku Ni-chome for proof.  The only thing is that it is not considered something a lot of people take seriously and parents expect their gay children to marry people of the opposite sex and reproduce.  Those who are out are widely accepted, but usually as outlandish caricatures of gays.  The word for these types of gays is "okama" and it is seen as a pejorative term among anyone who is a caricature.  There are even gay pride parades in Tokyo.

It is both accepted and not accepted, but in a completely different way than it is in the west.


But is it really accepted if someone still expects you to marry someone who you're clearly not attracted to or to only be "accepting" of those who come across as overtly "gay" because that's easier to wrap their head around than a more masculine man who happens to be gay? IMO, in that respect, that's no different than here. Sure, in major cities for the most part people don't bother you and don't really care what you do. But you still have people with relatives who still try to fix them up with someone hetero, "tolerate" pride parades, or are extremely shocked when they find out someone is gay who doesn't "seem" gay to them etc.


I'd say it is acceptance, just in a different way.  Here, the more important matter is not necessarily if a child is gay or not.  The important thing in Japan is if a child is able to reproduce or not.

One of my friends actually said the idea of "coming out" in the US does not necessarily work for many gays in Japan.  He said that some gays don't really want to "come out."  There are many gays who are okay with just marrying someone for kids and having a boyfriend or girlfriend on the side.  There are others who do want things to be the way they are in the US. 

Stories about family members shunning gay children and violence against gays is nowhere near as high as it is in the US.  Sad to say, but a child is more likely to be shunned (in some cases) by family for marrying a foreigner, than being gay.

I don't even know if the word "tolerate" is even appropriate.
  I feel it's more indifference or curiosity. 


I would agree with the 2nd bolded statement. I guess because I have a few gay married friends (same sex marriages not DL people) who have kids (biologically related to one of the two parents) via surrogates, I don't see expecting a child to marry someone they're not attracted to for the sake of having biological offspring as accepting at all.

IMO, that treats homosexuality as a hobby or a side line rather than accepting/tolerating the person for who they really are. But I do understand what you're saying in terms of it being different than here.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote ModelessDiva Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun 17 2013 at 4:10am
@the video of those young boys....
disturbing from start to finish

y'all parents need to get y'all sons in order,

I wouldn't place the blame on just single mothers, but they aren't helping anything that's for sure....

too many black men these days have horrible role models. women need to choose better men to have babies with,   and men just need to do better period

disgusting

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