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    Posted: Jul 29 2013 at 2:40pm
Why aren't they driving vans around trying to catch tax dodgers? Those people cost the country far more money than illegal immigrants, who can't claim any benefits.

    I am sick and tired of this SHAMEFUL country and the western world (in fact the rest of the world) 

    They are driving round mixed communities, and risk turning them into divided communities. A slogan that you might find yourself in trouble for painting on a wall ('go home') is being legitimised by the government. Who in the targeted communities (and around the country) is more empowered by this message - the recent legal migrant? The first-generation British child of immigrants; or the racists?

    What's the full cost-benefit if you weigh the number of illegal immigrants who return 'home' (itself a loaded word) against the damage and suspicion caused by legitimising racist views? Or bolstering the view that a large number of illegal immigrants are significant enough a drain on the country's resources that this crime is the one to broadcast?

    It be rs belief that in 2013 this is acceptable. 


    'Go home' campaign against illegal immigrants could go nationwide

    David Cameron's spokesman says controversial scheme involving mobile vans advertising a helpline for people to leave UK is working


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    One of the Home Office's mobile vans offering help to illegal immigrants who want to leave the UK. Photograph: Rick Findler

    Downing Street took the risk of escalating coalition tensions on Monday by declaring that a controversial campaign telling illegal immigrants to "go home" was working and could be extended nationwide.

    A day after the Liberal Democrat business secretary, Vince Cable, called the campaign "stupid and offensive", a No 10 spokesman said David Cameron disagreed, adding that the posters and leaflets were attracting "a great deal of interest".

    In a separate move, Lib Dem sources said that a Home Office plan to force visitors from certain Asian and African countries to pay a £3,000 bond before being allowed to visit the UK had not been agreed within the coalition. Reports saying the plan had been signed off prompted a particularly angry reaction from India.

    Immigration is one of the issues on which the two coalition parties differ most sharply and the future of the illegal immigration advertising campaign and the bond policy are likely to be the subject of further arguments in coming weeks.

    The campaign, which features the message: "In the UK illegally? Go home or face arrest", has been widely criticised because the blunt "go home" message is said to be reminiscent of racist graffiti common in the 1970s.

    The Home Office has defended the £10,000 campaign covering six London boroughs, which involved leaflets and small posters being distributed and two advertising vans being driven around for a week. The department said it represented a constructive approach to the problem of illegal immigration.

    The leaflets and posters include a number for illegal immigrants to text if they want to receive free advice and support with travel documentation to help them leave the UK.

    On Sunday Cable condemned the campaign strongly. "It was stupid and offensive, and I think it is very unlikely that it will continue," he said.

    But on Monday the prime minister's spokesman said: "This pilot that is currently running is about targeting [illegal immigrants] and it is working."

    He said Cameron believed that encouraging illegal immigrants to leave the UK voluntarily was more cost-effective than arresting them and removing them by force.

    The two vans carrying the posters around the London boroughs are no longer in service, but the leaflets are still in circulation. The Home Office is going to carry on monitoring responses to the text number for another three weeks.

    Asked if the pilot would be extended, the spokesman said: "The Home Office has said this is already working. Clearly, we will want to look at that in more detail and see how we take this forward."

    The Home Office would not give details of what evidence it had to show the campaign was succeeding. But a spokesman said that, given that an enforced removal costs on average £15,000, "if one individual were to take up the voluntary return scheme, that would cover the cost of the pilot compared to the cost of an enforced return".

    By comparison, a voluntary return costs on average £739, he said.

    No 10's enthusiasm for the campaign failed to impress the Lib Dems, who said they continued to find the adverts distasteful. A party source said Lib Dem ministers would need a lot of persuading that the campaign was having a beneficial effect and called claims that it only cost £10,000 misleading, because the row about the campaign's political undertones meant that it had now had as much publicity as a much more expensive advertising drive.

    A Number 10 claim that the "Home Office team" approved the campaign also angered the Lib Dems, who said that Jeremy Browne, the Lib Dem minister in the Home Office, had not signed it off.

    Angela Smith, a Labour Home Office spokeswoman, said that the adverts were "a cynical stunt and stupid politics to hide government failures on the basics".

    Last week it was reported that the Home Office was going to go ahead with a plan later this year to force some visitors from India, Nigeria, Kenya, Sri Lanka, Pakistan and Bangladesh to pay a £3,000 bond for a visitor visa allowing them to stay in the UK for up to six months.

    As this triggered protests abroad, sources close to Nick Clegg said that the £3,000 figure had not actually been agreed. Late on Monday afternoon the Home Office also issued a statement playing down reports that the policy had been finalised.

    A spokesman said: "In the long run we're interested in a system of bonds that deters overstaying and recovers costs if a foreign national has used our public services.

    "We're planning a pilot that focuses on overstayers and examines a couple of different ways of applying bonds. The pilot will apply to visitor visas, but if the scheme is successful we'd like to be able to apply it on an intelligence-led basis on any visa route and any country."

    Earlier on Monday the Confederation of Indian Industry said it was "strongly" urging the British government to reject the £3,000 bond plan.

    "This scheme is not in accordance to the spirit of 'special relationship' that India shares with the UK. It will shun the Indian tourist from visiting UK and also divert many others to more tourism friendly European countries," the confederation said.

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    Post Options Post Options   Thanks (3) Thanks(3)   Quote NARSAddict Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 29 2013 at 2:52pm
    Basically using illegal immigration is the red herring to divert folks attention from more pressing issues.  They play on folks insecurities and fears to garner support and keep them willfully ignorant of what the real money leak is IMO.  Same sh!t played out across the western world.
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    Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote CherryBlossom Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 29 2013 at 3:02pm
    ...any time things get tough, they start blaming immigrants and using them as scapegoats.

    this country has bigger problems than immigration, the Tories are overstating the issue.Sleepy


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    Also looking for Julio and the Africans as if clear folks don't immigrate. Ugg....the corporate fat cats cost the country way more but we don't want to talk about them because they line our pockets and get us elected...
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    Post Options Post Options   Thanks (3) Thanks(3)   Quote CherryBlossom Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 29 2013 at 3:06pm
    I'd love to see how the UK economy would cope if all the Africans, Asians and other immigrants really did "go home"...lol as if this country isn't going to hell already...LOL
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    Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Gkisses Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 29 2013 at 3:10pm
    I thought yall were suppose to be the progressive ones


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    Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote afrokock Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 29 2013 at 3:10pm
    Originally posted by NARSAddict NARSAddict wrote:

    Basically using illegal immigration is the red herring to divert folks attention from more pressing issues.  They play on folks insecurities and fears to garner support and keep them willfully ignorant of what the real money leak is IMO.  Same sh!t played out across the western world.


    pretty much
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    Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Lilaca Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 30 2013 at 1:35am
    i'm sorry but , immigration is getting out of hand. Most of the illegals are tax dodgers and frauds! Some are ripping the NHS to shreds! It is disgusting how some come over here and get a house straight away, where as my granny who was called over here from the carib along with other caribs, paid her taxes, worked for a long time and is still on a wait list to move house. I don't actually care if they are black white or asian, it is actually going too far!

    I think the way they have addressed the problem can seem offensive though. But some illegals make the legals look bad! Just saying! 


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    Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote afrokock Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 30 2013 at 2:22am
    Lol

    When they say illegals they mean all brown folk ..

    Legals included sweety.

    This just a diversion from pressing matters
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    Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote NARSAddict Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 30 2013 at 2:42am
    How many people of color are actually on the dole in the UK?  Serious question because I am trying to find stats that breaks down the racial background of people on public assistance and from what I have gleaned, there isn't a lot of people of color in the UK unless they are trying to pass.  Also from what I casually gleaned, it's mostly white people on the dole and a great portion of them that is hustling the system, case in point the woman who got the NHS to pay for her implants to become a glamour girl (such high aspirations the mom of two has).  Anyways I will keep looking.
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