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Topic: BEWARE OF EBAY VENDOR!
Posted By: PeacefulOne
Subject: BEWARE OF EBAY VENDOR!
Date Posted: Nov 19 2014 at 12:12pm
First let me point out that I have been on BHM for YEARS! I have NEVER, ever posted a bad review thread or negative rant thread on any of the awful wigs or extensions I have purchased and I swear there have been many!

I guess there comes a breaking point for anyone/everyone and I have reached mine!

Ya'll may or may not know that I was with the FIRST WAVE of flw wearers on BHM, in fact, SexiB and I joined at around the same time, and I was a lurker for a long time before I joined, and I came armed with experience. I watched as lws went from Hollywood's best kept secret to mainstream, buy at KMart and the dollar store products. So I have seen the quality of lws drop from "died and gone to heaven" to "why is this dead squirrel fur on my head" but today, I am here to tell you, I have had ENOUGH, and I am going to fight back!

Here's what happened:

I purchased a flw from the ebay vendor thehairlady007, aka savygirl5000, back in October. Her feedback was good, only 1 negative feedback with lots of transactions, and I saw that another bhm'er whom I really like, had purchased from her, and left positive feedback. I took the plunge and purchased what was listed as a VIRGIN curly flw. Got it, threw it in the drawer, and about a week later ordered ANOTHER of the same product, a VIRGIN flw. MISTAKE NUMBER ONE!

But let me explain why I did it this way. I like to have 2 of the same product on hand so that I can lift color, and cut the hair at the same time. Lots of us vets do it this way. Then you rotate your flw, and it lasts longer.

So, on my day off, I pull out the wigs, rinse the hair on one, the curl pattern was nice, so I mix up my kaleidocolors hi lift lightener and start working on the parting area and tips of the hair. I have done this a MILLION times so I have this down pat. MISTAKE NUMBER TWO! ALWAYS snip a piece of hair and pre test, no matter how the hair looks or feels!

The color doesn't budge after 50 minutes, sitting in a shower cap. But I rinse, condition, and recheck, figure the knots aren't THAT bad, so I cut the lace and leave it overnight to dry, so I can install and wear the next morning. It dried with a nice curl pattern, the ends are a tad lighter, so I install and leave to go to a cpr class I have to teach at work, at 8 am. BY 12 NOON, THIS THING LOOKED LIKE A ROUS ATTACKING MY HEAD!!! I am not kidding when I say I could literally feel the hair CRAWLING on my head!!

So we break for lunch, I go to my car, flip down the rear view mirror, and to my HORROR discover what looks like Bob Marley and Buckwheat's mutant love child on my muthafukinhead!!! I went straight home, sprayed lace release on it and wrestled it off my scalp. At the end of the day I came home took pics, and contacted the seller, said "I don't know wtf this is BUT IT IS NOT VIRGIN HAIR, I DON'T EVEN THINK ITS REMY HAIR, AND I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IT IS DEAD ROADKILL HAIR!!!" Sent pics, and she agreed how bad it looks, apologized, and offered me a 65 dollar rebate. I did not think 65 dollars was fair on a 250 dollar item! But more importantly, how is she selling this straw bale crap and calling it hair???!!!

Many emails are exchanged; she states you shouldn't have altered, washed or otherwise touched the hair and sent it back. IMO, she should have checked her product before shipping it out. Either way, I lost the ebay case, and will not get a refund for the piece of sh!t, but the 2nd one is going back. That's ok . . . I don't spend rent or bill money on hair, but----ya'll need to know about my FUBAR experience with this seller and BEWARE! She doesn't give a shyt if she is selling shaved butthole hair or monkeyball hair or wtf ever this is. And miss Shady(savy)girl5000, if you are a member here, you should be ashamed of yourself!

There will also be a YouTube review of this hair, and pics will follow, along with lanks! Tis all!



Replies:
Posted By: cocopuffs
Date Posted: Nov 19 2014 at 12:59pm
Damn! Is there any way to try again with your credit card?
So sorry this happened!!!


Posted By: lala0726
Date Posted: Nov 19 2014 at 1:00pm
Oh no..sorry to hear that...I came very close to ordering from her I wonder if any of the sellers claiming "virgin hair" on eBay are worth buying from. I get skeptical of the feedback scores


Posted By: PeacefulOne
Date Posted: Nov 19 2014 at 2:08pm
Coco, I payed with paypal. I will continue to check my options.

Lala, I have purchased "virgin" hair on ebay before, some of it was, but most was not, it was clearly chemically curled, which I can accept at 50-100 bucks. But when it is neither virgin (no color added) nor Remy (cuticles aligned) we have a mutha effin' issue, at 250 dollars.

But I have been trying to remember my fotki password, can pretty please someone post the pics here if I email them to ya? PM me?


Posted By: india100
Date Posted: Nov 19 2014 at 5:44pm
I work a 14 hour shift today PeacefulOne . You know as a fellow Nurse how tired I am . Give me a day to check my old messages . The thief sold me some Rat Nest Indian wefts . I called her dang house several times . The husband / boyfriend is part of the scam . I pray God will allow me to find her BHM username . We are going to have another Weavegate call out from hell . I also allowed a few members to scam me with crap hair and never said a word . I am tired . Watch out !! Ms India got your back if I can find her private messages from my purchase .  Ouch  Heart


Posted By: PeacefulOne
Date Posted: Nov 19 2014 at 6:39pm
the Proof:


http://public.fotki.com/PeacefulOne/

MsIndia, girl I am heartbroken that it happened to YOU, one of the nicest people on bhm! That alone makes me fighting mad!

It is definitely time to start calling these people out, it is the only way we can cut the bs, and hit them where it hurts!

I think members who do this crap should be BANNED, and ebay should shut down their stores. I know it doesn't seem like there is anything that can be done, but if enough people start posting, maybe we can come up with something. One thing I would like to see done is the market section on bhm should be made for Elite/platinum members only, because it is too easy for people to sign up and offer crap for sale here, and once caught, they start over with a new user name. It is fraud, plain and simple.


Posted By: sugabanana
Date Posted: Nov 19 2014 at 6:54pm
sorry OP that you had to experience that. Please post your bad experience on EBAY in the feedback section. Your description of the hair experience was hilarious. I'm tired of people wasting money on effed up hair.


Posted By: sugabanana
Date Posted: Nov 19 2014 at 6:57pm
OMG OP that hair had that coating crap on it that once you wash the hair it slickness of the hair disappears. No maam that wasn't virgin hair at all.


Posted By: cocopuffs
Date Posted: Nov 19 2014 at 9:59pm
Peacefulone-
I definitely remember you as one of the vets! And, again I am so sorry about this. I meant that if you paid with paypal did you use a credit card for the funds. If you did, you definitely have recourse through them. Even if you paid with your bank account, you can still file the complaint through your bank. Just like if there was a fraudulent charge on your debit card (think about what happened recently with the whole Target/TJmaxx security breach). That involved both credit cards and folks using their debit cards which are of course tied directly to their checking accounts and criminals making fraudulent charges after accessing peoples' private account numbers. To me, this constitutes a fraudulent charge in that you were defrauded out of what you intended to, and were led to purchase based on what she was advertising. Make some screen shots of the auction as a start and print out the hard copies. Keep the pics of what you received and also use references in this forum about commonly accepted ways that natural hair behaves if it is not processed and how it behaves if it is processed and cuticles out of alignment. There is a way to demonstrate your issue to a third arbiter (your bank) so that you can win this after all. Also, check to see time frames of filing disputes for bank transactions if that is what you wound up using. I believe credit cards are 180days, but I am not sure what the time frame is for bank transactions. But rest assured, they do have a dispute process and avenue for you. It's not quite "over" yet just because ebay made their ruling on the case. I will be checking this thread in support of you and trying to lend a hand.

India, I am sending positive vibes your way for finding the info you need. Enough of this nonsense! It is getting ready to be holiday season real fast, and unfortunately it has become a time of having to be extra vigilant since some folks don't care who they have to screw over for the latest Ipad in that Christmas stocking.


Posted By: hennared
Date Posted: Nov 20 2014 at 5:59am
Oh NO!!!!  God grief; I am so sorry this happened to you!  And I also came very close to purchasing
one of her 'virgin' units, myself. 
EBay sell
I think coco has a point; if it was your credit card through Paypal that was used, you might get somewhere with the bank that issued the card, and it cannot hurt to try!



Posted By: PeacefulOne
Date Posted: Nov 20 2014 at 8:16am
Originally posted by sugabanana sugabanana wrote:

sorry OP that you had to experience that. Please post your bad experience on EBAY in the feedback section. Your description of the hair experience was hilarious. I'm tired of people wasting money on effed up hair.


You can bet I will be leaving feedback, a link to this thread!
and yeah, I typed that description as accurately as possible and for those that don't know, ROUS is rodent of unusual size, and I believe it in my bones, that is what she sold me! I will pursue with my bank.


Posted By: PeacefulOne
Date Posted: Nov 20 2014 at 8:20am
Originally posted by cocopuffs cocopuffs wrote:


Peacefulone-
I definitely remember you as one of the vets! And,
again I am so sorry about this. I meant that if you paid with paypal did
you use a credit card for the funds. If you did, you definitely have
recourse through them. Even if you paid with your bank account, you can
still file the complaint through your bank. Just like if there was a
fraudulent charge on your debit card (think about what happened recently
with the whole Target/TJmaxx security breach). That involved both
credit cards and folks using their debit cards which are of course tied
directly to their checking accounts and criminals making fraudulent
charges after accessing peoples' private account numbers. To me, this
constitutes a fraudulent charge in that you were defrauded out of what
you intended to, and were led to purchase based on what she was
advertising. Make some screen shots of the auction as a start and print
out the hard copies. Keep the pics of what you received and also use
references in this forum about commonly accepted ways that natural hair
behaves if it is not processed and how it behaves if it is processed and
cuticles out of alignment. There is a way to demonstrate your issue to a
third arbiter (your bank) so that you can win this after all. Also,
check to see time frames of filing disputes for bank transactions if
that is what you wound up using. I believe credit cards are 180days, but
I am not sure what the time frame is for bank transactions. But rest
assured, they do have a dispute process and avenue for you. It's not
quite "over" yet just because ebay made their ruling on the case. I will
be checking this thread in support of you and trying to lend a hand.

India,
I am sending positive vibes your way for finding the info you need.
Enough of this nonsense! It is getting ready to be holiday season real
fast, and unfortunately it has become a time of having to be extra
vigilant since some folks don't care who they have to screw over for the
latest Ipad in that Christmas stocking.


Thank you so much, I will definitely be following up with all you have suggested. the information is so important!    


Posted By: 1KrysT
Date Posted: Nov 20 2014 at 10:03am
That's utterly ridiculous!


Posted By: mmogoogleair
Date Posted: Dec 11 2014 at 8:56pm
That's utterly ridiculous!




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Posted By: NJHairLuv
Date Posted: Dec 11 2014 at 10:30pm
I just pulled up the user name and I see that there are now multiple negative feedback posts and the seller responded 'You could have gotten a FULL REFUND."
My first thought was whoa - what do you mean 'could have gotten a full refund'? If they hair is that old acid dipped grade AA non-virgin IR from back in the day and it matted up in one day, give the people their money back. It seems that the seller had the wigs listed as 'clearance' for a reason...


Posted By: fifayouu
Date Posted: Dec 16 2014 at 3:42am
That's utterly ridiculous!

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Posted By: fifayouu
Date Posted: Dec 16 2014 at 3:43am
That's utterly ridiculous!


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Posted By: 4shopiece
Date Posted: Dec 20 2014 at 7:39pm
How did things go?
I ordered from her a few months ago and they sent me the wrong texture as well the cap contruction and density being extra thin. It took quite a while to ship. The wig was wearable after working with it so it wasnt a total loss and I didnt feel like going through the hassle of a return. and I recieved a partial refund. Around the time I ordered there rave reviews about quality etc. and given she is an AV I thought the turn around time was be quick but nope and she is drop shipping. vendor was listed on my package I didnt really do much research as to who she is using tho . If I can find the email exchange i will post in Vendor to avoid thread.


Posted By: PeacefulOne
Date Posted: Dec 21 2014 at 6:39pm
I lost the eBay case and got a refund on the second item. PayPal will not cover you if ebay rules against you. I have a PayPal cc so same deal.   I agree this vendor is drop shipping or is not looking at the products before sending them out. So be warned you may will get what you ordered or some trash. Thanks for your support yall.


Posted By: trynabedaone
Date Posted: Jan 23 2015 at 8:48am
Originally posted by PeacefulOne PeacefulOne wrote:

I lost the eBay case and got a refund on the second item. PayPal will not cover you if ebay rules against you. I have a PayPal cc so same deal.   I agree this vendor is drop shipping or is not looking at the products before sending them out. So be warned you may will get what you ordered or some trash. Thanks for your support yall.

paypal is owned by ebay
if you lose with ebay, you lose with paypal and vice versa


Posted By: chatnoir
Date Posted: Jan 30 2015 at 10:37am
Hello PeacefulOne,

I'm late on this thread (haven't been on BHM in quite some time).  I wanted to say that I am so sorry that this has happened to you. 

Thanks very much for the warning.


Posted By: ljdream
Date Posted: Mar 21 2015 at 2:59pm
Shocked So sad this has happened to you.


Posted By: da808gypsy
Date Posted: May 23 2015 at 5:31am
I bought a unit from savvy girl b4. It was a kinky curly lace front. Turned into a rats nest in less than a month of usage. I even gave it a bleach bath. Nothing worked. tangled soooo much.



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