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Posted By: Guidette
Subject: Malaysia plane shot down on the Ukraine-Russia bor
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 10:42am
Interfax news agency are claiming that a Malaysian passenger plane has crashed in Ukraine, near the Russian border.

"A Boeing Malaysian Airlines that was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur began to descend about 50km before entering Russian airspace, and was subsequently found burning on the ground in Ukraine," an aviation source told Interfax.

Interfax said that 295 people were on board at the time.

Footage uploaded to YouTube purports to show smoke bellowing into the sky from the scene where the plane crashed.

Cant post video



Update



Earlier on Thursday, the http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/17/russias-shoots-down-ukraine-plane_n_5594340.html?utm_hp_ref=world&utm_hp_ref=world" rel="nofollow -  Ukrainian military accused  Russian jets of having shot down a Ukrainian warplane late Wednesday night.





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Posted By: Gkisses
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 10:45am
I think they shot it down tbh.


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 10:47am
Rip to those that died


Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 10:48am
white terrorists


Posted By: Guidette
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 10:49am
Originally posted by Gkisses Gkisses wrote:

I think they shot it down tbh.



Yes just about to update.


Posted By: BBpants
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 11:10am
so they kept it a secret this whole time ?? Sleepy


Posted By: fckwitmeuknoigotit
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 11:15am
hi gui-gui


Posted By: Gkisses
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 11:16am
Originally posted by BBpants BBpants wrote:

so they kept it a secret this whole time ?? Sleepy


This a different plane


Posted By: Immie89
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 11:26am
World war 3...


Posted By: BBpants
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 11:30am
Originally posted by Gkisses Gkisses wrote:

Originally posted by BBpants BBpants wrote:

so they kept it a secret this whole time ?? Sleepy


This a different plane


oh this is a different plane?....well now I know that malaysia planes are jinxed


Posted By: Immie89
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 11:41am
This is not malaysia airlines fault...the plane was shot down...it just happened to be a malaysian plane


Posted By: Immie89
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 11:42am
Russians are in HUGE sh*t. They are the only ones capable of striking down a plane this big...Ukraine has no part in it..nor do they have the missles to do it.


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 11:43am
Originally posted by Immie89 Immie89 wrote:

Russians are in HUGE sh*t. They are the only ones capable of striking down a plane this big...Ukraine has no part in it..nor do they have the missles to do it.


Posted By: india100
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 11:53am
Pure Evil . I can't believe the media. How can you show body parts live ? Praying .   


Posted By: Alias_Avi
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 11:57am
redundant

Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

white terrorists


Posted By: india100
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 12:07pm
Originally posted by Immie89 Immie89 wrote:

Russians are in HUGE sh*t. They are the only ones capable of striking down a plane this big...Ukraine has no part in it..nor do they have the missles to do it.
Immie . President Obama warn against flying in Ukraine air space 3 months ago . I would never put anything past Russia . I can't believe the media continues to show close up pictures of dead people . Disrespectful to the families .


Posted By: Nisha
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 12:17pm
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Posted By: Nisha
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 12:18pm
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Posted By: Nisha
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 12:20pm
Warning: This one is graphic.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Posted By: AwesomeAries
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 12:23pm
What was the purpose of shooting them down


Posted By: Alias_Avi
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 12:31pm
Damn


Posted By: kerysdream7
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 12:34pm
Damn, these journalists & spokesperson lady are spicyShocked


Posted By: blaquefoxx
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 1:12pm
Does this mean that the U.S. has to now throw on their capes and take unnecessary necessary action? If so...this won't end well.


Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 1:53pm
why are any flights going over that part of the Ukraine knowing what's going on there?  


Posted By: OoDles O
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 1:55pm
oh wow… Thats terrible.
I'm waiting for Obama to be blamed for this 


Posted By: Prtybrwneye_z
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 2:15pm
Originally posted by OoDles O OoDles O wrote:

oh wow… Thats terrible.
I'm waiting for Obama to be blamed for this 

^yep, I'm sure Fox News has already started


Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 2:38pm
Thanks Obama!Stern Smile


I don't think I believe 'the rebels did it' story that's coming out.


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 4:18pm
so it was the ukranian rebels that shot it down



Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 4:20pm
Putin just chillin' in the cut like 'and what'?


Posted By: Wildfire
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 4:51pm

every time i see pics like those, bodies, just crushed and tossed like garbage, it makes me think that We need to be kind and good towards each other, be  humble, because, in the big scheme of things, we are nothing.
Sad. RIP. Poor families.


Posted By: Immie89
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 5:01pm
Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

so it was the ukranian rebels that shot it down


Source? 


Posted By: OoDles O
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 5:29pm
Why would Putin shoot down a passenger Jet with 20 or so Americans on board?
Hes not that crazy

Im hearing that some Pro Russian Separatist in Ukraine got a hold of some military equipment
and shot down what they thought was a military air craft. Could be wrong tho. 


Posted By: Immie89
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 5:34pm
there are clear sources of pro russian separatists claiming they shot down a plane not long before it went down.




Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 5:37pm
Aka Ukrainian rebels


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 5:38pm
Originally posted by OoDles O OoDles O wrote:

Why would Putin shoot down a passenger Jet with 20 or so Americans on board?
Hes not that crazy

Im hearing that some Pro Russian Separatist in Ukraine got a hold of some military equipment
and shot down what they thought was a military air craft. Could be wrong tho. 


not like America is gonna send ships over or anything

Any other country .. Bombs would have been dropping


Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 5:40pm
I learned my lesson from the last Malaysian plane tragedy where I was speculating like a mofo for weeks.Dead


Posted By: melikey
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 5:49pm
Russia gave them the surface to air missiles. They were reckless and couldn't know if the plane was commercial or Ukrainian. They thought they were shooting down a Ukrainian plane.


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 6:02pm
Originally posted by melikey melikey wrote:

Russia gave them the surface to air missiles. They were reckless and couldn't know if the plane was commercial or Ukrainian. They thought they were shooting down a Ukrainian plane.
errm .. Sources say that the missiles were taken when they took over a military installation

These types of missiles have been in the Eastern European block countries for years

And Ukraine prior to the crisis had their own


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 6:03pm
Russia did not supply the missiles .. Though i understand why it would be easy and more palatable to claim otherwise


Posted By: femmefatale85
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 6:05pm
damn

they wanted someone or some people on that plane dead



Posted By: thewonderfulwa
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 6:11pm
God bless those that died.


Posted By: melikey
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 6:13pm
Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

Originally posted by melikey melikey wrote:

Russia gave them the surface to air missiles. They were reckless and couldn't know if the plane was commercial or Ukrainian. They thought they were shooting down a Ukrainian plane.
errm .. Sources say that the missiles were taken when they took over a military installation

These types of missiles have been in the Eastern European block countries for years

And Ukraine prior to the crisis had their own


Your line of thinking is what they were banking on plausible deniability. It's clear Putin is looking to destabilize the eastern portion of the country and is doing whatever it takes. It's very similar to how the US armed the Taliban. Russia is doing the same thing.


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 6:17pm
lol my line of thinking .. i can easily say your spewing us rhetoric .. which is exactly what it sounds like to be honest

still does not negate the fact that these missiles and military installations were already part of the ukraine defense forces that are now in the hands of the ukrainian rebels..

thats a fact

what is conjecture however, is saying that these were provided directly by the russians.

maybe, but more than likely a few decades ago when it was all good


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 6:25pm
i see gazprom cutting off its energy supplies soon and a sharp rise in oil and gas prices soon

its gonna be interesting


Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 6:41pm
Sad the passenger already felt nervous flying with Malaysia Airlines in wake of the other crash before take off.Unhappy

Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 Passenger Joked On Facebook “If It Disappears, This Is What It Looks Like”

Dutch passenger Cor Pan’s Facebook post has gone viral in the wake of Thursday’s http://www.buzzfeed.com/mikehayes/malaysian-airliner-crash-ukraine" rel="nofollow - crash in Ukraine .

Cor Pan, https://twitter.com/HuffPostUK/status/489807505615519745" rel="nofollow - reportedly a Dutch passenger on the downed Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17, made a joke about the flight on Facebook before taking off Thursday morning.

https://www.facebook.com/cor.pan.7" rel="nofollow - Facebook: cor.pan.7

He posted a photo of a Malaysia Airlines plane with the caption: “If it disappears, this is what it looks like.”

In the search for details about who might have been on board the downed flight, Twitter users began sharing screenshots of Pan’s photo.

https://twitter.com/EvaMcL3" rel="nofollow"> Arsène's Bodyguard @EvaMcL3

The guy who posted the pic on FB -Cor Pan- making a joke about the missing plane, was on the flight with his wife. Friends confirmed. RIP.

https://twitter.com/EvaMcL3/status/489843304956444673" rel="nofollow - -
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    https://twitter.com/SiboeSiboe" rel="nofollow"> Siboe Siboe @SiboeSiboe

    Dutch national Cor Pan joked as he lined up to board MH17, "If it goes missing, this is what it looks like."

    https://twitter.com/SiboeSiboe/status/489839772148727810" rel="nofollow - -
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  • https://twitter.com/DefeatObama" rel="nofollow"> Kris Zane @DefeatObama

    MH17 passenger Facebook post 1 hour before the plane got shot down-"in case it disappears..." https://t.co/qYZnavkq21" rel="nofollow - https://t.co/qYZnavkq21

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  • Many found the joke incredibly eerie.

    https://twitter.com/J8mmyc/status/489826552423530496/photo/1" rel="nofollow">
    https://twitter.com/J8mmyc" rel="nofollow"> Jamie Craig @J8mmyc

    Eerie "If it disappears, it looks like this" https://t.co/a90syV79OB" rel="nofollow - https://t.co/a90syV79OB MH17

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  • https://twitter.com/NinjaArkRock" rel="nofollow"> Kate Mullen @NinjaArkRock

    Last Facebook post of Dutchman Cor Pan makes tragic reading. "If it disappears, this is what it looks like" next to a photo of flight MH17.

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  • Posted By: OoDles O
    Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 6:50pm
    Originally posted by melikey melikey wrote:

    Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

    Originally posted by melikey melikey wrote:

    Russia gave them the surface to air missiles. They were reckless and couldn't know if the plane was commercial or Ukrainian. They thought they were shooting down a Ukrainian plane.
    errm .. Sources say that the missiles were taken when they took over a military installation

    These types of missiles have been in the Eastern European block countries for years

    And Ukraine prior to the crisis had their own


    Your line of thinking is what they were banking on plausible deniability. It's clear Putin is looking to destabilize the eastern portion of the country and is doing whatever it takes. It's very similar to how the US armed the Taliban. Russia is doing the same thing.

    haha

    I think its more to the story… I don't think Putin is innocent by any means but … from a Western perspective The Narrative of Putin the evil dictator is pushed down our throats. 

    In a destabilized region I wouldn't be surprised if some rebels got hold of a command post full of dangerous weaponry. 

    In any case what will happen if they find out there was a good amount of Russian citizens on that flight?
    hmmm


    Posted By: india100
    Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 8:02pm


    BREAKING NEWS


    MISSILE DOWNED JET, U.S. SAYS

    aircraft.

    The United States has concluded a missile shot down the plane, but hasn't pinpointed who was responsible, a senior U.S. official told CNN's Barbara Starr.


    Heat signature,
    radar data cited




    •Data could lead to missile's source
    •U.S. to send crash experts
    •298 aboard Malaysia Airlines 777
    FULL STORY ON CNN.







    Posted By: Jess
    Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 8:20pm
    My God.


    Posted By: AshBash89
    Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 8:42pm
    There's a big war coming...may they rip


    Posted By: femmemichelle
    Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 8:51pm
    I'm saying. Is this not war-inducing?? Lord please protect the USA and Africa from these fools.


    Posted By: ms_wonderland
    Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 8:52pm
    Originally posted by AshBash89 AshBash89 wrote:

    There's a big war coming...may they rip

    i really, really hope not...this is scary.


    Posted By: AshBash89
    Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 9:06pm
    It's extremely ironic that the still missing Malaysian plane incident took the heat off of what was going in the Ukraine and now an Malaysian plane is shot down in the Ukraine. I'm getting a bad feeling.


    Posted By: indiecat
    Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 10:02pm
    They said 3 infants were on board and died
    God bless all of the people who lost their lives on that plane.

    This world is going to hell in a handbasket.


    Posted By: afrokock
    Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 11:40pm
    Originally posted by OoDles O OoDles O wrote:

    Originally posted by melikey melikey wrote:

    Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

    Originally posted by melikey melikey wrote:

    Russia gave them the surface to air missiles. They were reckless and couldn't know if the plane was commercial or Ukrainian. They thought they were shooting down a Ukrainian plane.
    errm .. Sources say that the missiles were taken when they took over a military installation

    These types of missiles have been in the Eastern European block countries for years

    And Ukraine prior to the crisis had their own


    Your line of thinking is what they were banking on plausible deniability. It's clear Putin is looking to destabilize the eastern portion of the country and is doing whatever it takes. It's very similar to how the US armed the Taliban. Russia is doing the same thing.


    haha

    I think its more to the story… I don't think Putin is innocent by any means but … from a Western perspective The Narrative of Putin the evil dictator is pushed down our throats. 

    In a destabilized region I wouldn't be surprised if some rebels got hold of a command post full of dangerous weaponry. 

    In any case what will happen if they find out there was a good amount of Russian citizens on that flight?
    hmmm


    innit though


    Posted By: Alias_Avi
    Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 11:45pm
    This is some Final Destination ish


    INESCAPABLE FATE: 'Unlucky' husband dies in MH17 crash, 'lucky' wife escaped MH370


    http://310627192.r.worldcdn.net/media/k2/items/cache/a627b12b33cdf54f397cc7f9705fcfd1_XL.jpg" rel="nofollow"> INESCAPABLE FATE: Unlucky husband dies in MH17 crash, lucky wife escaped MH370

    In a bizarre twist of fate, Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight steward Sanjid Singh had swapped flights to fly on flight MH17 that crashed with 298 on board in Ukraine last night.

    Just 131 days ago, his wife, also a flight stewardess, had swapped out of flight MH370 which then vanished while en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

    "He was last here about a month ago. He told us recently that he swapped with a colleague for the return Amsterdam-Kuala Lumpur flight.

    "He always called us before he leaves for his trip," Sanjid's broken-hearted father Jijar Singh told The Malaysian Insider in Bukit Mertajam, Penang, this morning.

    "Sanjid's wife was meant to fly on MH370 but swapped with another colleague at the last minute," he said between sobs.

    The 71-year-old Jijar also said he and his wife were eager to see their only son after his latest flight, having prepared his favourite dishes.

    "He was supposed to come here at noon after he returns from Amsterdam this morning. His mother had prepared all his favourite dishes," said the father of two.

    'My whole body is shivering'


    ijar Singh’s son, Sanjid, was a steward on flight MH17 which was shot down in the Ukraine yesterday.

    Sanjid, 41, was among the 15 crew members who died in the plane crash near the village of Grabovo, in eastern Ukraine. There were 283 passengers, including three infants, on board the plane.

    Jijar said his daughter in Italy who is Sanjid's older sister, had informed them of the crash about 4am (Malaysian time) although she had learnt of his death four hours earlier.

    "I have undergone two heart bypasses. Our daughter waited until 4am to tell us. She dare not tell us earlier. I am 71 and she (Sanjid's mother) is 73. We are in such a state.  My whole body is shivering.

    "We are heartbroken because he was our only son. What to do? What has happened, has happened," he said with a trembling voice.

    The former Lembaga Letrik Negara (LLN) employee said Sanjid's wife would go to Ukraine to do the necessary.

    Sanjid and his family, including their seven-year-old son, live in Kuala Lumpur. - TMI


    Full article: http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=323802:twist-of-fate-unlucky-husband-dies-in-mh17-crash-lucky-wife-escaped-mh370&Itemid=2#ixzz37nB7OYED" rel="nofollow - http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=323802:twist-of-fate-unlucky-husband-dies-in-mh17-crash-lucky-wife-escaped-mh370&Itemid=2#ixzz37nB7OYED



    Posted By: Alias_Avi
    Date Posted: Jul 17 2014 at 11:53pm
    Gddamn! Can't believe they're actually showing these graphic photos
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/17/flight-mh17-crash-photos_n_5595830.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular" rel="nofollow -
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/17/flight-mh17-crash-photos_n_5595830.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular


    Posted By: noneyons
    Date Posted: Jul 18 2014 at 12:37am
    i blame israel.


    Posted By: Jess
    Date Posted: Jul 18 2014 at 12:52am
    Originally posted by Alias_Avi Alias_Avi wrote:

    Gddamn! Can't believe they're actually showing these graphic photos
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/17/flight-mh17-crash-photos_n_5595830.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular" rel="nofollow -
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/17/flight-mh17-crash-photos_n_5595830.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
    How graphic? Are there bodies? Bones?
    I can't with this world. Let them rest in peace


    Posted By: Alias_Avi
    Date Posted: Jul 18 2014 at 12:54am
    @Jess

    Yes twisted bodies, smashed with part of the head missing Disapprove


    Posted By: Claudie
    Date Posted: Jul 18 2014 at 1:42am
    This is sad Broken Heart


    Posted By: ms_wonderland
    Date Posted: Jul 18 2014 at 2:07am
    Wow, did you guys hear the audio of the pro separatist military as they discovered it was a civilian plane they took down? Talking about the plane must've been bringing in spies then. What morons. I missed the first few seconds of the audio but they just played it on cnn.


    Posted By: newdiva1
    Date Posted: Jul 18 2014 at 2:16am
    smh.


    Posted By: afrokock
    Date Posted: Jul 18 2014 at 3:25am
    MORE than 100 AIDS activists, researchers and health workers bound for a major conference in Melbourne were on the Malaysia Airlines flight downed in the Ukraine.

    It is believed that delegates to the 20th International AIDS Conference, due to begin on Sunday, will be informed today that 108 of their colleagues and family members died on MH17.

    Stunned researchers, activists and development workers arriving at Melbourne Airport paid tribute to AIDS researcher Joep Lange and the other attendees believed killed aboard MH17.
    Jonathan Quick, head of a not-for–profit medicine supply company working with the Global Fund and the US government in Africa and Latin America, described Mr Lange as a force for change in HIV/AIDS treatment.
    “I remember meeting him back in the late 1990s. He was really driven at a time when there was not much going on in the way of treatment,” he said.
    “This is a community in which individuals have moved mountains and it’s also a community that has had regular exposure to horrific loss.”
    Mr Quick, who runs Management Sciences for Health, will introduce an address by former High Court judge Michael Kirby at the conference.
    Activist and journalist Sean Strub, who runs the New York based POZ magazine, said the conference was shaken by the tragedy and by Mr Lange’s death.

    “It’s going to be a very sombre week,’’ he said. “The struggle with the epidemic is bigger than any one individual but the collective loss of so many important people is one that is emotionally devastating.”
    Kenyan development worker Perez Odera said she feared the tragedy would dissuade people from flying to conferences such as this.
    “I just feel it is very, very unfortunate. It’s something we don’t have control over,’’ she said.
    Dr Robert Grant, a researcher from the Gladstone Institute at the University of California, said that on arriving in Melbourne he had heard reports Mr Lange had died.
    He declined to say he was speaking about Mr Lange ahead of confirmation of the death, but said a senior colleague — thought to be the Dutch researcher — appeared to have perished.
    “It’s incredible. He’s been a mentor to me and an incredible leader in this field. We have published together and I have relied on him for advice and guidance,” he said.
    Another delegate, Jennifer Watt, who works for a pharmaceutical company in San Francisco, talked of Mr Lange‘s work in Africa.
    “I have worked very closely with him in a number of clinical research projects. He’s very well known and a very passionate person. He’s the father of AIDS research in the developing world,’’ she said.
    Another attendee, Houston based community worker Moise Arrah, said the news was devastating. “People were coming here for such a noble cause and then they lose their lives in such a tragedy.”
    Mr Lange was a clinical researcher specialising in HIV therapy who served as the International AIDS Society president from 2002 to 2004.
    His friend Dr Seema Yasmin, from the US Centers for Disease Control, said Mr Lange was a true humanitarian.
    “What a HUGE loss to the world,” she tweeted. “Just learned that dear friend, amazing father to 5 girls and veteran AIDS researcher Joep Lange was on #MH17.”
    Australia’s National AIDS Trust paid tribute to Mr Lange.
    “Reports Joep Lange died in Malaysian plane crash today, with other scientists on way to AIDS_conference. Desperately sad news,” it said on Twitter.
    American academic and AIDS activist Gregg Gonsalves tweeted that “Lots of AIDS researchers, activists, officials on downed Malaysia Airlines flight to Melbourne for Intl AIDS Conference.
    “Joep Lange was a leading AIDS researcher and clinician and an activist at heart. Lost today too soon on Malaysian flight 019. RIP.”

    A Geneva-based World Health Organisation media adviser, Glenn Thomas, is also believed to be among the dead.
    Dr Haileyesus Getahun, coordinator of the WHO’s Global TB program, tweeted: “Saddened to learn that my friend and @WHO staff who was traveling to @AIDS_conference to Melbourne was on flight #MH17. RIP #Glenn Thomas”.
    His colleague Dr Rachel Ba ley, of the WHO’s HIV Department, told Vox: “I’m just devastated. He’s a very close colleague whom I work with on a daily basis.
    “He just had his birthday, he was going to plan all sorts of celebrations.”
    Nicole Schiegg, a former Senior Advisor at USAID, tweeted: “I am still stunned. So sorry & thoughts are with Glenn’s extended @WHO family at this time.
    “Glenn was a great guy & will be missed.”
    Jennifer Yang, global health reporter at the Toronto Star, tweeted: “So saddened to hear about lovely, funny, whip-smart Glenn.”
    Delegates Lucie van Mens, Martine de Schutter, Pim de Kuijer and Jacqueline van Tongeren were also reportedly on the flight.
    Dr Van Mens, director of program development and support at the Female Health Company, has been involved in public health, focusing on prevention of STIs and HIV/AIDS, since 1995.
    Organisers of the AIDS 2014 conference in Melbourne are awaiting confirmation of how many delegates were aboard the Malaysian Airlines flight shot down over eastern Ukraine.

    International Aids Society president-elect Chris Beyrer issued a brief statement outside the Melbourne Convention Centre, where the world’s leading HIV researchers and scientists, former US president Bill Clinton and philanthropist Bob Geldolf will gather for next week’s conference.
    “The International AIDS Society today expressed its sincere sadness at receiving news that colleagues and friends en route to attend the 20th International AIDS Conference taking place in Melbourne, Australia, were on board the Malaysian Airlines MH17 flight that has crashed over Ukraine earlier today,” Mr Beyrer said.
    “At this incredibly said and sensitive time the IAS stands with our international family and sends condolences to the loved ones of those who have been lost to this tragedy.

    “The IAS is hearing unconfirmed reports that some of our friends and colleagues were on board the flight and if that is the case this is a truly sad day.
    “The IAS has also heard reports that among the passengers was a former IAS President Joep Lange and if that is the case then the HIV/AIDS movement has truly lost a giant.”
    UNAIDS executive director Michel Sidibe tweeted: “My thoughts & prayers to families of those tragically lost on flight #MH17. Many passengers were enroute to #AIDS2014 here in #Melbourne.”
    The IAS released a statement today confirming the death of a number of attendees to the 20th Annual AIDS Conference.
    “The International AIDS Society (IAS) today expresses its sincere sadness at receiving news that a number of colleagues and friends en route to attend the 20th International AIDS Conference taking place in Melbourne, Australia, were on board the Malaysian Airlines MH17 flight that has crashed over Ukraine earlier today,’’ it said.
    “At this incredibly sad and sensitive time the IAS stands with our international family and sends condolences to the loved ones of those who have been lost to this tragedy.”

    Bill Clinton, Bob Geldof, Michel Sidibe , the executive director of the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria Mark Dybul, Indonesian Health Minister Nafsiam Mboi, Swedish Ambassador for Global Health Anders Nordstrom are down as speakers at the conference.

    source:australiatoday


    Posted By: carolina cutie
    Date Posted: Jul 18 2014 at 3:31am
    Damn RIP.Unhappy


    Posted By: newdiva1
    Date Posted: Jul 18 2014 at 3:43am
    Ukraine....u know u done fucced up right?


    fucc.  all those researchers.


    Posted By: Missvw
    Date Posted: Jul 18 2014 at 5:35am
    Damn, another Malaysia incident? Cry


    Posted By: Guidette
    Date Posted: Jul 18 2014 at 8:50am
    Originally posted by fckwitmeuknoigotit fckwitmeuknoigotit wrote:

    hi gui-gui


    Hi!Wink


    Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
    Date Posted: Jul 18 2014 at 9:00am
    Didn't watch the news yesterday. I woke up to this. This is some bullshyt. The end of days.


    Posted By: livi123
    Date Posted: Jul 18 2014 at 10:01am
    Whether they were Russian or Ukrainian who shot down that plane, I don't really care for how they're described as "separatist"  instead of terrorist....


    Posted By: afrokock
    Date Posted: Jul 18 2014 at 11:39am
    Originally posted by livi123 livi123 wrote:

    Whether they were Russian or Ukrainian who shot down that plane, I don't really care for how they're described as "separatist"  instead of terrorist....


    Posted By: Diane (35)
    Date Posted: Jul 18 2014 at 11:43am
    LORD JEEZEEEEE!!! This is what i came to BHM yesterday to see, my friend told me about this. I really need to buy a smart phone.

    What the fork? Those ppl onboard and their families and friendsCryCryCryCryCryCry. This is one of my greatest fears

    RIP



    Posted By: Wildfire
    Date Posted: Jul 18 2014 at 12:14pm
    Oh God. This is scaring me


    Posted By: india100
    Date Posted: Jul 18 2014 at 12:40pm
    83 children died . 3 Infants .   


    Posted By: nekamarie83
    Date Posted: Jul 18 2014 at 1:30pm
    ^^^ *sigh* *smh* bless... RIP
    Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

    MORE than 100 AIDS activists, researchers and health workers bound for a major conference in Melbourne were on the Malaysia Airlines flight downed in the Ukraine. 
    goodness... Disapprove


    Posted By: Wildfire
    Date Posted: Jul 18 2014 at 4:50pm
    they say most of the passengers were from Holland?....189...22 of them children. sigh




    The scale of the disaster was immense in a country of just 15 million people. Twitter posts compared the impact on the Dutch people to that of the 9-11 attacks in the United States.


    The Netherlands was last night trying to come to terms with one of the worst aviation disasters in its history, as grieving relatives gathered at a primary school attended by some of the 22 Dutch children killed.

    The De Klimroos school, in the southern town of Roosendaal, opened specially on the first day of the holidays to provide counselling for those who were close to the children.

    "They're inconsolable," a local resident said, declining to give her name. "This is a small country and nearly everyone is affected."

    A total of 189 Dutch people were among the dead – nearly two-thirds of those killed when the Malaysia Airlines passenger jet bound from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur was blown to pieces on Thursday over eastern Ukraine.

    Flags were lowered to half-mast across the country as Mark Rutte, the prime minister, cut short a trip Germany to fly home. "The whole of the Netherlands is in deep mourning," he said.


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10977385/MH17-relatives-of-dead-Dutch-children-gather-as-Holland-mourns.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10977385/MH17-relatives-of-dead-Dutch-children-gather-as-Holland-mourns.html





    Posted By: Wildfire
    Date Posted: Jul 18 2014 at 4:58pm




    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10974050/Malaysia-Airlines-plane-crashes-on-Ukraine-Russia-border-live.html" rel="nofollow - Malaysia Airlines crash: live blog

    The authenticity of this 14-second video has not been independently verified.

    It appears to have been posted to the social network Instagram by a Malaysia Airlines passenger named Md Ali Md Salim.

    The 30-year old expressed his nervousness while on board the flight, which was shot down over the Russian-Ukrainian border on Thursday.

    The caption reportedly states: "Bismillah... #hatiadasikitgentar (In the name of God... feeling a little bit nervous)."

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10975608/Malaysia-Airlines-crash-video-shows-MH17-passengers-preparing-for-take-off.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10975608/Malaysia-Airlines-crash-video-shows-MH17-passengers-preparing-for-take-off.html




    Posted By: Wildfire
    Date Posted: Jul 18 2014 at 5:01pm

    MH17 plane crash: Russia's UN ambassador accuses the world of taking Ukraine's side

    At a UN Security Council meeting on Friday, Ambassador Vitaly Churkin said that "whatever the Ukraine government arbitrarily does is judged favourably by the world"

    Russia's ambassador to the UN has said the country places all blame on the Kiev government and calls for the Ukrainian side to take decisive measures to stem such incidents in the future.

    Ambassador Vitaly Churkin was speaking at an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council on Friday on  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10974050/Malaysia-Airlines-plane-crashes-on-Ukraine-Russia-border-live.html" rel="nofollow - the downing of a Malaysia Airlines jet , killing 298 people on board.

    Addressing the meeting, Mr Churkin said: "It seems that whatever the government (of Ukraine) arbitrarily does is judged favourably (by the world), but it seems the victims of the geopolitical ambitions of the regime are actually a whole people, the people of Ukraine. The punitive operation in eastern Ukraine needs to be stopped as soon as possible. Negotiations for the crisis are still possible. "

    Earlier, U.S. Ambassador Samantha Power said the US believes the plane was likely downed by an SA-11 missile fired from an area in eastern Ukraine controlled by pro-Russian separatists.

    U.S. Ambassador Samantha Power told an emergency meeting of the U.N. Security Council on Friday that the United States cannot rule out that Russia helped in the launch of the surface-to-air missile that shot down a Malaysian Airlines jet over eastern Ukraine, killing all 298 people on board.



    Posted By: trudawg
    Date Posted: Jul 19 2014 at 12:55am
    They talking about it may have been staged. Bodies were not fresh and decomposing rapidly.




    Posted By: DiorShowGirl
    Date Posted: Jul 19 2014 at 1:06am
    ^^^^ WAIT I AM SERIOUSLY LOST ON THAT COMMENTARY OF THE PLANE CRASH/BODIES   WTLFH????


    so if true, where, how and why

    where are the passenger's bodies

    how did they get those alleged decomposed bodies there that fast

    WHY?  

    Please tell me those arent the bodies from the first Malaysian plane crash,they somehow just kept sort of "on ice" and then dumped them there? 

    this is so weird if the video is true..


    Posted By: trudawg
    Date Posted: Jul 19 2014 at 1:18am
    I.e., the [already] dead bodies were on the plane when it was shot down
    images of the actual bodies on liveleak. They look swollen and full of rigamortis

    *graphic*
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e5_1405626203" rel="nofollow - http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e5_1405626203

    when I seen  them  images of fresh unburned passports I thought something isn't right, why would all the passports be collected in one spot. Generally, folks keep their passports on them.


    Posted By: DiorShowGirl
    Date Posted: Jul 19 2014 at 2:13am
    ^^^^^ i hate to say this but that couple that is shown all of the time...seafoam green shirt and looks like a dark blue shirt is always shown in this wreckage....dayum there are decomposed bodies already in that wreckage...WTH???? 


    Posted By: bindy
    Date Posted: Jul 19 2014 at 5:28am
    smh


    Posted By: Lilaca
    Date Posted: Jul 20 2014 at 4:29am
    Sad sad times

    I hope they find all the bodies to give back to their loved ones


    Posted By: Lilaca
    Date Posted: Jul 20 2014 at 4:33am
    Originally posted by trudawg trudawg wrote:

    I.e., the [already] dead bodies were on the plane when it was shot down
    images of the actual bodies on liveleak. They look swollen and full of rigamortis

    *graphic*
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e5_1405626203" rel="nofollow - http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e5_1405626203

    when I seen  them  images of fresh unburned passports I thought something isn't right, why would all the passports be collected in one spot. Generally, folks keep their passports on them.
    CryThey were literally obliterated. 


    Posted By: afrokock
    Date Posted: Jul 20 2014 at 5:32am
    Originally posted by trudawg trudawg wrote:

    I.e., the [already] dead bodies were on the plane when it was shot down
    images of the actual bodies on liveleak. They look swollen and full of rigamortis

    *graphic*
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e5_1405626203" rel="nofollow - http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e5_1405626203

    when I seen  them  images of fresh unburned passports I thought something isn't right, why would all the passports be collected in one spot. Generally, folks keep their passports on them.


    thats because they have a small surface area


    Posted By: trudawg
    Date Posted: Jul 20 2014 at 1:07pm
    Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

    Originally posted by trudawg trudawg wrote:

    I.e., the [already] dead bodies were on the plane when it was shot down
    images of the actual bodies on liveleak. They look swollen and full of rigamortis

    *graphic*
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e5_1405626203" rel="nofollow - http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e5_1405626203

    when I seen  them  images of fresh unburned passports I thought something isn't right, why would all the passports be collected in one spot. Generally, folks keep their passports on them.


    thats because they have a small surface area


    true, but how could they collectively be in one location.


    Posted By: carolina cutie
    Date Posted: Jul 20 2014 at 1:18pm
    Since anyone was allowed at the crash scene it looks like people collected the passports in one spot.

    Jewelry, cash/credit cards and property are being looted right now and people are taking tourist-y like photos around large broken parts of the plane with the smell of bodies rotting in the air.Dead


    Posted By: Lilaca
    Date Posted: Jul 20 2014 at 5:53pm
    Originally posted by carolina cutie carolina cutie wrote:

    Since anyone was allowed at the crash scene it looks like people collected the passports in one spot.

    Jewelry, cash/credit cards and property are being looted right now and people are taking tourist-y like photos around large broken parts of the plane with the smell of bodies rotting in the air.Dead
    Cryhere today , rotting tomorrow...those poor folk


    Posted By: OoDles O
    Date Posted: Jul 20 2014 at 6:56pm
    I was listening to some of the accounts on NPR 
    They were talking about how the missile literally blasted people out of the plane and they plunged to their death. Its such a horrifying sight to imagine. I hope those responsible pay hard for this sh*t.


    Posted By: carolina cutie
    Date Posted: Jul 20 2014 at 7:47pm
    ^Jesus I hope they were knocked unconscious before they hit the ground. Then the fact you don't know where the bodies of your loved ones are?Cry

    Who will pay...everyone seems pretty quiet about that besides the talking heads on TV.


    And Putin still chillin' in the cut like 'what?' *runs out of thread*


    Posted By: noneyons
    Date Posted: Jul 20 2014 at 9:58pm
    so i've done some digging, and here goes my little conspiracy theory.

    ihor kolomoskyi is the governer of a ukrainian province/kiev appointed head of regional administration, the second richest man in ukrain, and is also of israeli descent. he is a huge donor to the israeli government, a prime suspect in the odessa massacre and the head of what some people call "obama's ukrainian dream team."

    kolomoskyi has referred to putin as "schizophrenic" and "crazy". putin recently referred to him as a "unique opportunist". 

    there's a whole lot of background stuff that i don't feel like going into but i'm wondering if this is all just one big ass clusterfck conspiracy 

    i'ma leave it at that cause this could be much to do about nothing or i might have stumbled on some sh*t that aint supposed to be dug up. when i think about the alliances of nations (russia/china/north korea/syria/*palestine vs u.s/israel), this stuff has got me shook tbh LOL

    bottom line, we need to be careful about pointing the finger at russia. we don't want it with them. there's always more to the story. where there's smoke, there's israel. 


    Posted By: noneyons
    Date Posted: Jul 20 2014 at 11:07pm
    and it gets deeper. 

    yulia tymoshenko, the former prime minister of ukraine has close ties to kolomoskyi, the obama administration washighton and of course israel. 

    there is a wiretapped recording floating around the internet of her saying 'i will use all my connections and get the whole world to rise up to kill 8 million russians, particularly, vladimir putin'.

    wtf? 

    lemme go find house hunters on hgtv and leave this ish alone.




    Posted By: Alias_Avi
    Date Posted: Jul 20 2014 at 11:51pm
    I really thought I could handle what was in that link... I was not ready :(
    I've never seen the human body splatter. That can not be unseen


    Strange how a missile can break a plane apart but not disintegrate the bodies
    I pray these people were dead before they hit the ground Disapprove

    Originally posted by trudawg trudawg wrote:

    I.e., the [already] dead bodies were on the plane when it was shot down
    images of the actual bodies on liveleak. They look swollen and full of rigamortis

    *graphic*
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e5_1405626203" rel="nofollow - http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e5_1405626203

    when I seen  them  images of fresh unburned passports I thought something isn't right, why would all the passports be collected in one spot. Generally, folks keep their passports on them.


    Posted By: DiorShowGirl
    Date Posted: Jul 21 2014 at 1:01am
    Originally posted by noneyons noneyons wrote:

    so i've done some digging, and here goes my little conspiracy theory.

    ihor kolomoskyi is the governer of a ukrainian province/kiev appointed head of regional administration, the second richest man in ukrain, and is also of israeli descent. he is a huge donor to the israeli government, a prime suspect in the odessa massacre and the head of what some people call "obama's ukrainian dream team."

    kolomoskyi has referred to putin as "schizophrenic" and "crazy". putin recently referred to him as a "unique opportunist". 

    there's a whole lot of background stuff that i don't feel like going into but i'm wondering if this is all just one big ass clusterfck conspiracy 

    i'ma leave it at that cause this could be much to do about nothing or i might have stumbled on some sh*t that aint supposed to be dug up. when i think about the alliances of nations (russia/china/north korea/syria/*palestine vs u.s/israel), this stuff has got me shook tbh LOL

    bottom line, we need to be careful about pointing the finger at russia. we don't want it with them. there's always more to the story. where there's smoke, there's israel. 




    just making THIS PERFECTLY CLEAR ...I DO NOT KNOW THIS USER ON THIS BOARD, FORUM AT ALL...NEVA HEARD OF THEM , NEVER  ENGAGED IN ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THIS PERSON...THANK YOUBig smile


    LAWDHAMMERCY...


    Posted By: DiorShowGirl
    Date Posted: Jul 21 2014 at 1:02am
    Originally posted by noneyons noneyons wrote:

    and it gets deeper. 

    yulia tymoshenko, the former prime minister of ukraine has close ties to kolomoskyi, the obama administration washighton and of course israel. 

    there is a wiretapped recording floating around the internet of her saying 'i will use all my connections and get the whole world to rise up to kill 8 million russians, particularly, vladimir putin'.

    wtf? 

    lemme go find house hunters on hgtv and leave this ish alone.




    AGAIN....NEVER , EVER HEARD OF THIS PERSON...THANK YOU...Big smile


    Posted By: noneyons
    Date Posted: Jul 21 2014 at 1:09am
    well damn! what if i had wanted to delete them posts lmao!


    Posted By: noneyons
    Date Posted: Jul 21 2014 at 1:13am
    but for real. the stuff i call myself piecing together is all readily available on the innanets lol. i just found myself connecting some dots that done left my ass tumbling down the damn rabbit hole. ish gets way deeper but i aint THAT bold to be posting it all. 

    and again, it could all be much ado about nothing. 

    eta: btw, if i'm going down, you going down with me because of the quoteStern Smile
    spreading propagandaLOL


    Posted By: DiorShowGirl
    Date Posted: Jul 21 2014 at 1:38am
    Originally posted by noneyons noneyons wrote:

    well damn! what if i had wanted to delete them posts lmao!



    UM please do not talk to me..just stop and leave me alone...bye person of interest




    Posted By: DiorShowGirl
    Date Posted: Jul 21 2014 at 1:41am
    Originally posted by noneyons noneyons wrote:

    but for real. the stuff i call myself piecing together is all readily available on the innanets lol. i just found myself connecting some dots that done left my ass tumbling down the damn rabbit hole. ish gets way deeper but i aint THAT bold to be posting it all. 

    and again, it could all be much ado about nothing. 

    eta: btw, if i'm going down, you going down with me because of the quoteStern Smile
    spreading propagandaLOL


    *clutching my holy bible*...listen please do not do this to me, i never bothered you at all on here...i am a single parent living the H.O.N.E.S.T. LIFE...

    shoo....go away....CryCry (always the innocent ones (like me) on here)


    Posted By: noneyons
    Date Posted: Jul 21 2014 at 1:46am
    LOL



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