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Topic: Study:Even Poor Whites Have It Better Than Blacks
Posted By: tatee
Subject: Study:Even Poor Whites Have It Better Than Blacks
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 10:09am

Surprised? Even Poor Whites Have It Better Than Blacks

A 25-year study of blacks and whites in Baltimore finds that income status can be an equalizer, but race does make a difference.

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Boarded up row houses in east Baltimore, three blocks north of the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, Dec. 2, 2003

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From birth, practically, we’re told—again and again—that education is the golden ticket to the American dream. This is a meritocracy! Study diligently, put the work in and you, too, can get ahead, leapfrogging over your parents on the social strata. All you have to do is grab those bootstraps and pull. Hard.

Or not.

For 25 years, a group of researchers from Johns Hopkins University tracked 800 mostly low-income schoolchildren from Baltimore from the start of first grade until they were just shy of 30 years old. In one of the very few projects to compare and contrast the lives of poor black and poor white kids, the researchers interviewed the youngsters, their parents and teachers, checking in with them regularly over the years. What the sociologists found was disheartening: The long-held truism that education trumps social class didn’t hold up. The children who were born poor tended to stay poor—no matter their race.

More often than not, one’s lot in life is determined by that of one’s parents. Almost half the kids surveyed remained in the same social class as their parents—and almost none of the kids, black or white, from low-income families graduated from college. Four percent of kids from poor homes finished college by age 28, compared with 45 percent of kids coming from more well-off backgrounds, even though the disadvantaged kids spoke of wanting to continue their educations. They, too, believed that education was the key to getting ahead.

“It’s a story of middle-class privilege,” says sociologist Karl Alexander, who, along with his colleagues Doris Entwistle and Linda Olson, reported their findings in a new book, http://www.amazon.com/The-Long-Shadow-Disadvantaged-Sociological/dp/0871540339/ref=as_sl_pc_ss_til?tag=root04c-20&linkCode=w01&linkId=ECB3B5Y75TG33QPL&creativeASIN=0871540339" rel="nofollow - The Long Shadow : Family Background, Disadvantaged Urban Youth and the Transition to Adulthood.

“When the dust settles, not very many of these [inner city] kids are moving up in life, following the path that we tell them to follow,” Alexander says. “That’s sad and that’s sobering. The challenges are very real and there are many of them. There’s not just one thing getting in the way.”

And there are more things getting in the way for poor black kids compared with their poor white counterparts, according to Alexander. Low-income urban white neighborhoods tend to be more stable and less violent than urban black neighborhoods with an almost identical income profile, he says.

Black neighborhoods in Baltimore were more likely to be upended by public works projects; highway construction or new railroad lines cut a swath through once-stable communities, sending families scattering. Ninety percent of families that had to relocate because of public works projects were African American, according to Alexander. Working-class white kids were more likely to stay in the same neighborhood, fostering stability and extended social networks.

With http://bmorehistoric2013.baltimoreheritage.org/2013/10/10/deindustrialization-and-its-effects-on-history-and-preservation/" rel="nofollow - deindustrialization , high-paying working-class jobs all but evaporated. But of those blue-collar jobs that remained, white men were much more likely to find work, according to Alexander. At age 28, the last year the former schoolkids were surveyed, 45 percent of the white men were working in those jobs, compared with 15 percent of black men. Among the students who dropped out, only 40 percent of black dropouts were working, compared with 89 percent of white dropouts. Low-income white men in the study had the lowest rate of college attendance or completion, but they also earned double what black men earned.

Why such a glaring difference?

“We see a very clear pattern of white privilege that probably extends back a few generations to Baltimore’s boom times [in the ’40s to ’50s],” Alexander says. “I personally think there’s a lot of racism in the mix, but we can’t quantify that.”

White working-class men benefited from knowing someone who knows someone, according to Alexander. They might get a job working in, say, their uncle’s auto shop. Or their dad works in the shipyards, so that gives them an in. It’s only natural for parents to look out for their kids, Alexander says, but in so doing, this further perpetuates white privilege.

“If you look at the kids that don’t go to college, white [working-class] guys have a tremendous advantage over everyone else,” Alexander says.

Low-income white women also benefit, he says. They are the ones who marry the white guy with the good blue-collar job. And though poor white women typically had the same rate of teen births as did poor black women, they were more likely to either marry or be in long-term partnerships, the study found.

Middle- and upper-class white men were much more likely to report using drugs, binge drinking and smoking, followed by lower-income white men—findings that contradict the stereotype of inner-city black men on drugs.

The study also found other interesting black-white disparities. Middle- and upper-class white men were much more likely to report using drugs, binge drinking and smoking, followed by lower-income white men—findings that contradict the stereotype of inner-city black men on drugs. These men were also more likely to have an arrest record, the survey found, while low-income black men were more likely to have a conviction: 49 percent compared with 41 percent of low-income white men. But serving time in prison didn’t hold white men back when it came to finding jobs.

Alexander, who spent most of his career at Johns Hopkins tracking these students, admits that he found the study results depressing. But he says the young adults today are anything but depressed. Most expressed a desire to continue their education. When asked what they considered being “successful” meant, many said that being alive and living a drug-free life and being able to be with their families was what mattered most to them.

“There’s a certain sentiment in this country that the only way you can be happy is to make a lot of money and have a high-status job,” Alexander says. “But on the ground, there are other things that are more important to these young people. And these are substantial values.”

Teresa Wiltz is a journalist based in Washington, D.C.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2014/07/white_privilege_extends_to_the_poor.html




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Posted By: tatee
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 10:13am
Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:


of course


its the reasoning why in the article that are interesting because i think its things we can change a community.


Posted By: eanaj5
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 10:14am
did this really need a study though?


Posted By: tatee
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 10:15am
Originally posted by eanaj5 eanaj5 wrote:

did this really need a study though?


yah really hate studiesLOL


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 10:18am
Originally posted by tatee tatee wrote:

Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:


of course


its the reasoning why in the article that are interesting because i think its things we can change a community.
elucidate ..


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 10:19am
Originally posted by eanaj5 eanaj5 wrote:

did this really need a study though?
yes


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 10:21am
Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:


well


Low-income white men in the
study had the lowest rate of college attendance or completion, but they
also earned double what black men earned.





                    
                    


Why such a glaring difference?







                    
                    


“We see a very clear pattern of white privilege that probably extends
back a few generations to Baltimore’s boom times [in the ’40s to
’50s],” Alexander says. “I personally think there’s a lot of racism in
the mix, but we can’t quantify that.”




The study also found other interesting black-white disparities.
Middle- and upper-class white men were much more likely to report using
drugs, binge drinking and smoking, followed by lower-income white
men—findings that contradict the stereotype of inner-city black men on
drugs. These men were also more likely to have an arrest record, the
survey found, while low-income black men were more likely to have a
conviction: 49 percent compared with 41 percent of low-income white men.
But serving time in prison didn’t hold white men back when it came to
finding jobs.

what is that you people.....racism is not a big factor anymore? just work harder you say?



*harmonizes*


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 10:23am
Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:


yes it did need a study

why? because without valid studies people make baseless claims

this provides some evidence of what is happening in our world

sorry but hearsay and anecdotal stories usually don't hold weight beyond a regular everyday conversation

studies help shape pubic policy

maybe I should make a how studies shape public policy thread








I'm all for it


Posted By: iliveforbhm
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 10:26am
The one who is I can't say their name is correct. Very correct.


Posted By: _ConcreteRose_
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 10:36am
I like studies. Especially when they're acedemic/government studies and use the right procedures. 
However, wayy too often Journalists and reporters will take the study and draw the wrong conclusion from it, or misrepresent the statistics in the study.  And then the average idiot reads the article and thinks they're an expert on the subject now.

wow, this post came off aggressive.




Posted By: _ConcreteRose_
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 10:41am
Originally posted by CherryBlossom CherryBlossom wrote:

but but but...bootstraps...exceptional black success...racism is a thing of the pastDisapprove
Thank you Rosa Parks for ending racism. [/RNC]


Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 10:45am
duh...


Posted By: Miss B
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 10:51am
I like reading studies. Data doesn't lie. There are some people that will not believe the realiities of our society unless its in the form of a line graph or pie chart.

However its becoming more and more important to read the actual study because even news outlets can draw hard and fast conclusions that the study does not necessarily assert or disprove.


Posted By: fckwitmeuknoigotit
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 10:56am
we need an economic base and more black owned businesses so we can employ our own people and keep circulating the money in our community.
 
 


Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 10:59am
ummmm this has always been the case since the inception of this country . holla at me with a study that's proves opposite of historical reality....


Posted By: JasmineE02
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 10:59am
We don't even read the terribly written articles. Cry


Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:00am
oh and I only read the title...


Posted By: iliveforbhm
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:06am
If you have the numbers and data then you have a strong case and even more so peer reviewed then your data can change lives. But words alone are not enough.


Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:10am
Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:


well that's my point TC (you only reading the title lol)

why would a study need to prove otherwise?

proving what we know is fine



lol...i guess some need proof of what is obvious and what has already been proven time and time again historically...i guess. me... i'd much rather resources be spent on more forward thinking endeavors...


Posted By: JasmineE02
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:13am
We won't know what those forward thinking endeavors are until we can quantify exactly what is going on.  


Posted By: sbrownie84
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:18am
Originally posted by fckwitmeuknoigotit fckwitmeuknoigotit wrote:

we need an economic base and more black owned businesses so we can employ our own people and keep circulating the money in our community.
 

 

Blacks are untrustworthy of each other. It will be a longggg hard road for this to work.
In a perfect world, we need to establish integration with all races.




Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:21am
Originally posted by JasmineE02 JasmineE02 wrote:

We won't know what those forward thinking endeavors are until we can quantify exactly what is going on.  


huh? why can't previous studies be used to know what is going on?


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:21am

Damn can a negro catch a break?

 


Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:25am
Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:



multiple studies proving there is a problem can a be catalyst for social programs that can change lives/communities

evaluating programs that already exist and proving they work helps keep those programs going and gets them more funding/secures their funding



i guess...but that indicates a flaw in the public policy system, imo. which is also obvious lol.   but, of course, shyt won't change until multiple studies are performed to prove that over and over again as well...


Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:26am
Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:

Originally posted by ThoughtCouture ThoughtCouture wrote:

Originally posted by JasmineE02 JasmineE02 wrote:

We won't know what those forward thinking endeavors are until we can quantify exactly what is going on.  


huh? why can't previous studies be used to know what is going on?


they can but you can't really make a good argument off of studies done 10 years ago

if anything a current study proving what happened ten years ago is still happening is even more reason that something needs to be done

again, this isn't just for everyday conversations with people you know

it has a bigger reach


ahh ok. well i hope it reaches the right levels...


Posted By: JasmineE02
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:27am
One study doesn't prove anything.  It's suggestive and usually people go back and try to tease out different variables and replicate their findings.  


Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:29am
so these periodic studies are like pulse checks to measure if policy changes have had any impact?


Posted By: fckwitmeuknoigotit
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:29am
Originally posted by sbrownie84 sbrownie84 wrote:

Originally posted by fckwitmeuknoigotit fckwitmeuknoigotit wrote:

we need an economic base and more black owned businesses so we can employ our own people and keep circulating the money in our community.
 

 

Blacks are untrustworthy of each other. It will be a longggg hard road for this to work.
In a perfect world, we need to establish integration with all races.


 
its hard work but its the only way our people will have jobs because its obvious whites aren't in a hurry to employ people of color at an equal scale, which leaves us on the outside looking in.
 
i do disagree that blacks are unstrustworthy of each other. if you're doing legit business then you should have no worries.


Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:32am
as it relates to this particular topic...there has been waaaay more than 1 study. but i get it...

personally, i won't be needing a study (on this) until there is one that proves something opposite of historical reality...


Posted By: bunzaveli
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:39am
Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:


These men were also more likely to have an arrest record, the survey found, while low-income black men were more likely to have a conviction: 49 percent compared with 41 percent of low-income white men. But serving time in prison didn’t hold white men back when it came to finding jobs.


Posted By: JasmineE02
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:40am
They also do systematic reviews of the literature.  There will often be studies that contradict each other, but when there's a wealth of information with strong, well designed research...they'll see the other studies as possible outliers.  Science is messy.  


Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:42am
Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:


I remember when I told you I was a research psychologist and you asked me what I do/what is that

well this is it TC lol


ahhhhh ok!!!!!


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:44am
I love these studies.
Keep em coming.
 
I like to see the methods used  and how the study was done too


Posted By: JasmineE02
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:44am
Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:

Originally posted by JasmineE02 JasmineE02 wrote:

They also do systematic reviews of the literature.  There will often be studies that contradict each other, but when there's a wealth of information with strong, well designed research...they'll see the other studies as possible outliers.  Science is messy.  
 

good posts jasmine Embarrassed

Big smile  Thanks!  I've been drowning in all of my old psych textbooks as I get ready for grad school. Cry  I was reading The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat during my vacation as some "light reading". LOL


Posted By: rickysrose
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:46am
Originally posted by eanaj5 eanaj5 wrote:

did this really need a study though?

Unfortunately yes because too many people believe that racism doesn't exist

And blame black people instead of racism 



Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:51am
Originally posted by rickysrose rickysrose wrote:

Originally posted by eanaj5 eanaj5 wrote:

did this really need a study though?

Unfortunately yes because too many people believe that racism doesn't exist

And blame black people instead of racism 

Lamp

I want to write about this so bad. It kills me how this information is rarely brought up during discussions about race, economics and class in articles, news broadcasts, etc.


I'm waiting for the yt caped crusaders, race isn't important and the 'all Black American ____ are lazy' groups to come in lol


Posted By: rickysrose
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:52am
haven't read the thread yet but have the bootstrappers chimed in yet

Not sure how they intend to twist this 


Posted By: rickysrose
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:53am
we are here >><<



Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:54am
no bootstrappers.......yet............


Posted By: HaitianDiva64
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:57am
It'll be the blacks fault for getting arrested and not moving/looking hard enough


Posted By: rickysrose
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:58am
denial so deep they can't see the thread lol


Posted By: JasmineE02
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 11:59am
We still have bootstrappers?


Posted By: noneyons
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 12:00pm
good read. 


Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 12:01pm
becky still lurking around i think...


Posted By: rickysrose
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 12:01pm
yes in recent threads they schooled us that racism isn't holding back blacks, blacks are holding back blacks 

If you work hard and stop being ratchet (acting black)  there's nothing stopping you from succeeding

Yes they are among us

I believe some have been sent, while others are simply indoctrinated 




Posted By: sbrownie84
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 12:08pm
So what now? All of us are well aware of the problem (s). We have the studies and statistical evidence to prove what everyone knows, some denied but the results are as is. What now?

What do we do now? Any solution to the problem? Advice on what we should do? What?


Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 12:09pm
lmaoooo what was then one word?????


Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 12:14pm
Originally posted by rickysrose rickysrose wrote:

yes in recent threads they schooled us that racism isn't holding back blacks, blacks are holding back blacks 

If you work hard and stop being ratchet (acting black)  there's nothing stopping you from succeeding

Yes they are among us

I believe some have been sent, while others are simply indoctrinated 


I just need them to read this summarized study and others like it and have an 'Ah ha!' moment.Big smile

Lawd knows I can not wait ti drop this study on the clueless Becky in class next semester.



Posted By: sbrownie84
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 12:21pm
I just what to hear any plans/advice/suggestions/ on what we can do to counteract this problem. Talking about it is the first step. Now it's time to move on and make plans. What now?
Personally, I'm stumped. The education myth ( thought it helps to a great extent) has been exposed. What are we tell our children now?


Posted By: rickysrose
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 12:23pm
lol they didn't let the light all the way in

Acknowledging the problem helps because there's now an issue to fix

Racism blamed blacks, many bought into it and since that wasn't the root we've been spinning our wheels for decades

I think re-branding black and exposing/dismissing the roots/causes/tactics/intent of the negative stereotypes and beliefs about blackness will go a long way in helping to rebuild the black psyche. 

The true definition and manifestations of racism needs to be made very simple and very clear.   Many have no idea what racism is. Racism likes it that way.

A combination of laws, shame and social pressure can also help even the scale


Posted By: noneyons
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 12:26pm
reduce conspicuous consumption, open black businesses, live in predominately black neighborhoods so our tax dollars will circulate, build our infrastructure, make our schools more competitive.


Posted By: fckwitmeuknoigotit
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 12:26pm
who is "they"??? who are the boostrappers??? speak into the mic


Posted By: fckwitmeuknoigotit
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 12:27pm
Originally posted by sbrownie84 sbrownie84 wrote:

I just what to hear any plans/advice/suggestions/ on what we can do to counteract this problem. Talking about it is the first step. Now it's time to move on and make plans. What now?
Personally, I'm stumped. The education myth ( thought it helps to a great extent) has been exposed. What are we tell our children now?
create an economic base and get money, build businesses. money talks...


Posted By: sbrownie84
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 12:27pm
Didn't we do this in the 60's?


Posted By: sbrownie84
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 12:29pm
My response was to rickyrose last post


Posted By: rohan
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 12:31pm
Originally posted by sbrownie84 sbrownie84 wrote:

So what now? All of us are well aware of the problem (s). We have the studies and statistical evidence to prove what everyone knows, some denied but the results are as is. What now?

What do we do now? Any solution to the problem? Advice on what we should do? What?

Start your own thing.  Blacks get hired last, fired first, have less access to financing, and are systematically excluded or self-select out of opportunities available from the greatest creator of wealth the world has seen since the transatlantic slave-trade: The internet.  There is a startup gold-rush going on that blacks are absolutely absent from, and there's no good reason why they should be.  I speak at conferences where I'm the only black person on the panel and sometimes the only black person in the entire building.  The internet has leveled the playing field in a lot of ways, but we're not taking advantage of it.  I think startup incubators aimed at black people with ideas, and access to financing will go along way.  That's why I posted that lady's hair extension idea on here.  We need access to financing.


Posted By: fckwitmeuknoigotit
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 12:33pm

@brownie, yes we did and we were thriving as far as having safe communities, businesses, 2 parent families and jobs. what stopped that momentum was jim crow. we need to get back to that.



Posted By: Alias_Avi
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 12:34pm
Notice how when our labor was free, Whites always stressed how good we were at our job but when we became free and discriminating against hiring us became against the law how quickly we got labeled "lazy" and wanting "a hand out"

http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&docid=m1x4R1iYqBoSmM&tbnid=RcIFzVKPZGV35M:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.saveyourheritage.com%2Fslavery.htm&ei=ecy-U923OMTyoASOg4GAAw&bvm=bv.70810081,d.cGU&psig=AFQjCNGMXQvj5OcbVqoLV_8LHuA_aNSXWw&ust=1405099511072505" rel="nofollow">




How can anyone say you can't quantify racism.... in America of all places? How ignorant can one be


http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&docid=VTZ7B7tbKYO96M&tbnid=lYbzo2-gex5zmM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fusslave.blogspot.com%2F2011%2F05%2Fslave-catchers.html&ei=mM2-U7SLF4rqoAT91IGQDg&bvm=bv.70810081,d.cGU&psig=AFQjCNENiwo8wbspwIxBAyiq-dXH9R8zpg&ust=1405099797477006" rel="nofollow">


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Posted By: noneyons
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 12:43pm
there is a trend among upper middle class latinos called gente-fication (not to be confused with gentrification) where upwardly mobile hispanics chose to return to poorer hispanic neighborhoods in order to help their people (gente) prosper. 

we need to follow their example. 


Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 12:55pm
Originally posted by noneyons noneyons wrote:

there is a trend among upper middle class latinos called gente-fication (not to be confused with gentrification) where upwardly mobile hispanics chose to return to poorer hispanic neighborhoods in order to help their people (gente) prosper. 

we need to follow their example. 
 
this is what i chose to do...i ain't neva scared...but you know...


Posted By: noneyons
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 1:01pm
i feel you, tc.

my current neighborhood is interesting. i live in a city/town that is considered the hood based on it's reputation. but i live in the historical area of the city where there's a mixture of 400k houses smack dab in the middle of run down shacks. the third largest private school in the country is across the way from me, and down near the end of my street there are a couple of small extremely low income complexes in the mix. 

i refuse to leave my people.


Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 1:11pm
yeah.  this is why i will always respect common.  he grew up on the southside...his mother still lives on the southside in the same neighborhood....i've been to her house a few times.  real cool peoples...


Posted By: noneyons
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 1:19pm
rohan, what is this goldrush you speak of? sharing is caringLOL


Posted By: Random Thoughts
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 1:35pm
Originally posted by Random Thoughts Random Thoughts wrote:

Originally posted by Random Thoughts Random Thoughts wrote:

Originally posted by coconess coconess wrote:

them crackas smell like wet dogs!


Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Jul 10 2014 at 1:38pm
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