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Topic: JamaicanMakeupArtist is getting wronged
Posted By: DiorShowGirl
Subject: JamaicanMakeupArtist is getting wronged
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 2:05am
on her channel...it seems like she took down all of her makeup tutorials cause she is teaching online makeup classes and having those videos up is not fair to her students who are paying for the exact same thing that is shown in those videos..

folks are mad cause she didn't give notice, thinks her ish don;t stink cause she is a "someone" now on youtube...

a lot unscribed to her cause of her taking down her videos..



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Posted By: DiorShowGirl
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 2:07am
don't know if she addresses the comments in this video u have to read the comment section to see the remarks...so sad..no support for her cause of her taking down her videos..


Posted By: newdiva1
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 2:11am
damn.  they ain't gotta do all that.  just watch someone else's vids.  don't want sista's to do better and get paid.


Posted By: Diane (35)
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 2:13am
okay.


Posted By: DiorShowGirl
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 2:13am
E.X.A.C.T.L.Y.  i couldn;t believe all of their childish, ignorant, non-supporting, can i get it for free assess on there...

she did tell them of themselves...she wasn;t holding back with what she had to say to them..


Posted By: DiorShowGirl
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 2:17am
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What happened to all of your old videos? 😔
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I'm sorry love but I'm teaching my techniques now and newer ones. So having them here on YT compromises the integrity of my classes. BUT! I have good videos cooking :-)
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Posted By: DiorShowGirl
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 2:18am

Lyric I have been an admirer of your work and personality , for quite a long time now . However , I am little confused as to why you deleted all you previous videos . I subscribed to you because I love the way you do your makeup and would occasionally drop by to review your old videos . Now that you have deleted them ; I am questioning my purpose here . People subscribed to you because they admired your videos . You would not have as many views and opportunities if it wasn't for us the subscribers . I think it's very shallow of you to delete your older videos just because you teach makeup classes now . That's just utterly sad . You can come on here and ask people to vote , check out your social media profiles , come to your makeup classes , but you deleted all your videos and not one formal notification was given from you . The irony of it all .Reason why many folks out here find it hard to support Youtuber's because as soon as they get some type of fame they switch . Anyways I am unsubscribing here , but I do however wish you great success in everything that you do !
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Assuming you know about the removal of them through those very social networks you follow. As well as reading the comments. I've been doing YouTube for five years so don't think that me removing the videos was a walk in the park for me. I had to make a very difficult business decision. I didn't consult anybody when creating my channel, and yes you're right, I've gotten views as subs, of which I am very grateful. Every time I'm asked I answered why they were removed. If you can't see that this step is important for me, then you're being unfair to my growth and the opportunities I'm being offered. Expecting to stay where I was for five years is what your requesting. As a student why would you attend my classes if tutorials are in here for free?? Notice OTHER youtubers who are now instructors they no longer make Makeup Tutorials. This step was important to me. And if you can't see that not support it, then where we we're is not where we are
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Posted By: DiorShowGirl
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 2:19am
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I subbed for the makeup tutorials & now there's none :/ unsubscribed. 
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Ok dear. Thanks for announcing you unsubscribed. Thanks for your support thus far
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Posted By: DiorShowGirl
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 2:21am
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Why did u delete all ur makeup tutorials? Some form of notice would've been nice. Guess this is jus another review channel now
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Posted By: DiorShowGirl
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 2:21am
ignorant fools...they are...


Posted By: harley_quinn
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 6:45am
These subbies scare me, most of them don't seem to have a life outside YouTube, almost as if they're trying to live through the Guru.


Posted By: _ConcreteRose_
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 6:56am
youtube personalities have SERIOUS (and irrational) fanbases and... hater-bases.


Posted By: hauteshellbi
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 7:22am
Lyric is going to start posting videos again... when she deletes her videos she will lose revenue...you need to constantly post and show your work to grow and gain subbies but meh who cares


Posted By: hauteshellbi
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 7:27am
And no shade but where is she teaching classes Jamaica? You have 108,000 subscribers and you delete tutorials for a class full of 30 people hmmm



Posted By: HaitianLuv
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 7:32am
meh i kinda understand both sides. One thing that i dont like about youtubers is that once thye get popular they slow down or completely stop doing what made them popular. On the flip side youtubers dont owe anybody anything and they're free to do what ever they want.

I personally just unsubscribe from youtubers who arent doing what they used to. Just like your free to not upload videos and visit haircare events instead, im free to unsub you.


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 7:33am
Don't blame the subbies for unsubscribing.
Guess I don't blame her either.

She must be charging folks an arm and a leg bc YT can be profitable too


Posted By: MissDarkEyes
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 8:11am
Personally I think it was a BIG mistake for her to remove all her makeup videos.  They would have been the perfect marketing tool for her business!  People would watch and would want to sign up for her class.  Short sided thinking wont get you far... 


Posted By: bunzaveli
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 8:15am
she pretty, she look like the type to stab a Brotha


Posted By: rickysrose
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 8:34am
that wasn't wise

She could still teach her classes and could have used youtube to advertise her classes, now she's burned the bridge

The people in the class likely found her on youtube

A lot of people can't mimic the vid and would prefer one on one so the vids don't take away from her classes

Plus new looks, techniques, products come along, new content isn't hard to come by

But it's her public persona, she can do with it what she likes



Posted By: rickysrose
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 8:35am
didn't read the thread I basically agree with miss dark eyes 


Posted By: Fcgriffin
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 8:37am
I agree Ricky!  Beatfacehoney teaches classes now and her vids are still up.  


Posted By: creole booty
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 8:46am
Why would anyone stay subscribed if what they wanted is no longer there? She is really good at makeup though. Like, really good.


Posted By: mizzsandra00
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 9:09am
She shoulda left them up and came up with a new way to teach her classes....people don't pay for the class for the same info they can get everywhere else.....they pay for the hands on instruction....the video didn't compromise that.....


Posted By: Brjasuga51
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 9:17am
bad business move...because this was a way people knew who she is and can see her work at an extent. I guess she will advertise through facebook...ig..twitter.  But cant tell them Youtube gurus nuttin....they think they know it all.


Posted By: Diane (35)
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 11:09am
Originally posted by hauteshellbi hauteshellbi wrote:

And no shade but where is she teaching classes Jamaica? You have 108,000 subscribers and you delete tutorials for a class full of 30 people hmmm


She does them online, she send me tons of emails asking me to join and pay. Shes been having the classes for at least a year.

http://www.lyricrochester.com/882-2-2/?awt_l=LtcZk&awt_m=44LhdkM9O.Ctc54" rel="nofollow - http://www.lyricrochester.com/882-2-2/?awt_l=LtcZk&awt_m=44LhdkM9O.Ctc54

not sure if that's what she's still using


Posted By: Diane (35)
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 11:36am
Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:


if anything she should only post teaser videos online and then tell people to pay for her class

YUP!!!!!!! That would draw in more custy's. New vids should be no more than 2 minutes. Leave all of them up and then do her teasers/review videos or whatever. On thing is certain i couldn't take her loud ass Chrisrtiain dancehall music!DeadDeadDead 


Posted By: Rumbera
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 11:40am
Actually, I think it was a bad move to remove all of them. I rarely watch her vids , she is not my style.
 
She could've left a handful of vids as a teaser to sell her online classes... Like, it you want to see more, go here..... I would not sign up for her online tutorials based on her pics at all.


Posted By: Rumbera
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 11:42am
Originally posted by rickysrose rickysrose wrote:

didn't read the thread I basically agree with miss dark eyes 
^^ and Ricky ! LOL


Posted By: liesnalibis
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 11:46am
People are spoiled. Youtube has a wealth of information, all for free.


Posted By: sexyandfamous
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 11:48am
People feel so entitled nowadays... fvck off already. There are plenty of tutorials, losers.


Posted By: MissDarkEyes
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 12:24pm

^^LOL!

 
No big loss.  Personally I love THIS guy
 
https://www.youtube.com/user/gossmakeupartist" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/user/gossmakeupartist
 
Now here's a guy that's a professional MUA and he has his own line of makeup brushes.  And he still posts TONS of useful tips on YT weekly.  This is how you use YT to market yourself.  She should take notes.
 
 
 
 


Posted By: Diane (35)
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 12:46pm
I love Goss. I cant take all the chitter chatter on YT videos.

He did have a bit of controversy with hsi brushes though, there were some who felt the brushes were too expensive esp. sinc eh likes to tell us what is worth the money and what isn't. But he made the brushes he would actually want/use and that's that.


Posted By: hauteshellbi
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 12:53pm
Lmao at hating her Christian dancehall music

Ooh I didn't know it was online...how much are people paying to skype her? I guess because I've been subbed to her since she had a handful of subbies I don't really see her as a huge guru...anyone else remember when she used to put white highlight under her brows *shivers*


Posted By: Diane (35)
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 1:02pm
Shellbi i dont remember.

I found her early on too, yes i remmeber that. But Ive never subscribed to a youtuber EVER. I watch and go. I dont even check in with the one i like. I may watch their video in succession thought but meh.


Posted By: bunzaveli
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 1:04pm
Originally posted by MissDarkEyes MissDarkEyes wrote:

^^LOL!

 
No big loss.  Personally I love THIS guy
 
https://www.youtube.com/user/gossmakeupartist" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/user/gossmakeupartist
 
Now here's a guy that's a professional MUA and he has his own line of makeup brushes.  And he still posts TONS of useful tips on YT weekly.  This is how you use YT to market yourself.  She should take notes.
 
 
 
 


not that i understand whats going on but she has 100k subscribers, and he has 1.6 million. his lowest videos are 6 million hits, her highest are 30k.

they both post youtube videos, but they are in 2 different worlds. but anyway, i agree, setting fire to your fan base is never a good look.


Posted By: BBpants
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 1:22pm
There are tons of makeup gurus out there that probably do the same sh*t as her....move on to the next and stop complaining.


Posted By: india100
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 1:27pm
I admire her for trying to make it , but the makeup looks too hard in my op . I would thank the people that support me online . I will never understand the current Dracula eyebrow trend . Beautiful with a gift to reach people . SMH .  


Posted By: DiorShowGirl
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 1:27pm
hopefully someone will re-vamp her methods of this situation....can't believe folks are getting mad cause she took down her videos..."I am leaving, unsubbing and so on" 

i like her..wish i could understand what she is saying most of the time...but hey, her life,job, career and so on...she feels she wants to do this then let it be...



Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 1:52pm
Originally posted by india100 india100 wrote:

I will never understand the current Dracula eyebrow trend .  
LOLDead


Posted By: newdiva1
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 2:02pm
If she made a wrong move then she'll learn soon enough. Still...folks act so entitled. Those comments were like...iono...like they were tryna hurt her feelings. If anything the comments should have been like some here. Simply inform her that they believe she's making a wrong move etc etc. Those comments read like they're mad that she's trying to better herself and come up. It's a shame that her own subbies can't be supportive. I mean the channels...there are so many...


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 2:12pm
She used YT for exposure and subbies used her for makeup info.
I don't view YouTube as a support base


Posted By: mizzsandra00
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 2:17pm
People paying to Skype makeup classes.......this might be worse than paying to Skype a bish in Cambodia to see the same 7.914563 oz of hair


Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 2:23pm
hmmmm, imo...it's just like watching any other tv show that is funded based off of viewership.  if you have no viewers, you get no advert $. 
 
the only way they (who came/subbed for makeup tuts) can support her is to watch makeup videos which she has now removed.   i'm a bit lost as to why she believes having the tuts up will somehow slight the people who wish to pay for actual hands on help.  is she never planning on evolving???  trying new products and techniques??  it's so weird, imo.
 
anyway, i do think a psa of an unsub is a bit childish and ridiculous.


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 2:26pm
I don't think its childish.
They are voicing their displeasure.

It can be done in a childish way but on its face I don't see the problem with it.

Especially if they tell Ber why on the way out.


Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 2:27pm
these people are crazy...it's free.  she don't owe them shat.


Posted By: noneyons
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 4:47pm

no different from many aspiring musicians who give away free copies of their cds or links to their soundcloud or whatever and start to charge for their music once they grow their fanbase. 

these people are crazy. she can do whatever the hell she wants
 Wacko


Posted By: noneyons
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 4:53pm
or like a free trial subscription to netflicks or mcafee or the free microsoft office suite that comes with new computers. when the trial is up, you can't use the sh*t no more unless you pay up.


Posted By: thewonderfulwa
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 5:31pm
It was her choice to remove the video that no one had to pay to view them so if it wasnt a wise decision it was hers to make.I dont understand the anger everyone on Youtube seems to be doing the same thing.


Posted By: miiszjanae
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 5:59pm
If people subbed for makeup videos and she deleted them then I can see why they're unsubbing. I don't see how she getting wronged.


Posted By: noneyons
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 6:03pm
subscribers should be thanking her for taking the time to post the videos for as long as she did and wishing her well on her future endeavors not complaining and making it a point to pretty much tell her 'i'm not your friend no mo cause you stopped giving me free candy'. 


Posted By: bunzaveli
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 6:15pm
aint nobody got time to be subbed to a user with no videos


Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 6:17pm
it makes sense for them to unsub but why are they leaving angry comments?


Posted By: rell85
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 6:20pm
I like her vlogs...


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 6:37pm
Originally posted by bunzaveli bunzaveli wrote:

aint nobody got time to be subbed to a user with no videos

Fr fr


Posted By: miiszjanae
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 6:46pm
Originally posted by noneyons noneyons wrote:

subscribers should be thanking her for taking the time to post the videos for as long as she did and wishing her well on her future endeavors not complaining and making it a point to pretty much tell her 'i'm not your friend no mo cause you stopped giving me free candy'. 
They thanked her with their subs, likes and sharing her videos which helped her get to the point she's at now. If anything she should be thanking them. 

  


Posted By: femmemichelle
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 6:52pm
Originally posted by miiszjanae miiszjanae wrote:

Originally posted by noneyons noneyons wrote:

subscribers should be thanking her for taking the time to post the videos for as long as she did and wishing her well on her future endeavors not complaining and making it a point to pretty much tell her 'i'm not your friend no mo cause you stopped giving me free candy'. 
They thanked her with their subs, likes and sharing her videos which helped her get to the point she's at now. If anything she should be thanking them. 

  

And probably helped put money in her pockets through clicks.



Posted By: noneyons
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 6:58pm
if they learned makeup tricks through her tutorials, it was an even exchange. she offered a FREE service and benefited from it as she should have. hell, some of her subscribers can take what they learned and follow in her footsteps (and i'm quite sure many of them have). 

i have no problem helping a black woman come up. but that's just me.


Posted By: femmemichelle
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 7:34pm
You can still come up without shafting the people who got you to where you are. 


Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 9:39pm
Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

it makes sense for them to unsub but why are they leaving angry comments?
 
that's what i'm saying.  i mean.. it seesm like a lil too much imo.  just unsub and keep it moving...


Posted By: newdiva1
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 11:09pm
^^^^^^^all i'm saying.


Posted By: newdiva1
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 11:11pm
honestly...just to play the other side...it would have sent a stronger message if folks just unsubbed without commenting or even just saying "good luck".  She would see her numbers go down and revise her strategy.


Posted By: eleisha26
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 11:22pm
Originally posted by mizzsandra00 mizzsandra00 wrote:

People paying to Skype makeup classes.......this might be worse than paying to Skype a bish in Cambodia to see the same 7.914563 oz of hair




Posted By: Diane (35)
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 11:23pm
Originally posted by ThoughtCouture ThoughtCouture wrote:

Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

it makes sense for them to unsub but why are they leaving angry comments?
 
that's what i'm saying.  i mean.. it seesm like a lil too much imo.  just unsub and keep it moving...

Just like good bye cruel board threads. I loved to read them and laughed but really just never come back to bhm. I wouldnt even unsubscribe it's neither here nor there. but i guess maybe they dont want to see the updates that come with subbing? Whateverssssss

Bunz IA she really wasnt in the league of the big one like goss. 


Posted By: newdiva1
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 11:30pm
Originally posted by femmemichelle femmemichelle wrote:

You can still come up without shafting the people who got you to where you are. 



How is she shafting people tho?  She took down vids that were free.  She ain't take nothing that belonged to nobody.


Posted By: Princess Grace
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 11:31pm
They sending her nasty messages while that asian girl on American Express and Target commercials,,, Uhmm okay.

ConfusedDead



Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 11:31pm
i don't want to jack this thread but have y'all seen what Qaadir is up to??

for a laugh, please click:   www.pursue-acuity.com" rel="nofollow - www.pursue-acuity.com

these yters....this dude is such a con artist...yes, he's a "life coach" now.

check out the backdrop of MANHATTAN...the stock photo of happy people....


Posted By: newdiva1
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 11:32pm
girl wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuud.


Posted By: Princess Grace
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 11:33pm
She took down her videos, on her channel of HER doing the makeup, they all should have several seats...


Posted By: newdiva1
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 11:40pm
Qaadir...iono...I haven't watched his vids in a long time.  He seems to be struggling to find his way.  If his initial plans for his channel fell through he should document the process of ...just doing better or finding a career or path or something.  He is in no position to be nobody's life coach.  Your life needs to be all the way together before you can qualify for something like that. No shade but he ain't makin' the ends of his own life meet.


Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 11:41pm
Originally posted by newdiva1 newdiva1 wrote:

Qaadir...iono...I haven't watched his vids in a long time.  He seems to be struggling to find his way.  If his initial plans for his channel fell through he should document the process of ...just doing better or finding a career or path or something.  He is in no position to be nobody's life coach.  Your life needs to be all the way together before you can qualify for something like that. No shade but he ain't makin' the ends of his own life meet.

i know!!  he just got a job a few months ago and now he's Confucius.  charging $75/hr though...the stories of never to be seen concerts and albums wasn't gonna jive anymore so he found another way to get money out of his followers.


Posted By: DiorShowGirl
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 11:49pm
Originally posted by Princess Grace Princess Grace wrote:

She took down her videos, on her channel of HER doing the makeup, they all should have several seats...


thank you....Clap


Posted By: DiorShowGirl
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 11:52pm
Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

Originally posted by newdiva1 newdiva1 wrote:

Qaadir...iono...I haven't watched his vids in a long time.  He seems to be struggling to find his way.  If his initial plans for his channel fell through he should document the process of ...just doing better or finding a career or path or something.  He is in no position to be nobody's life coach.  Your life needs to be all the way together before you can qualify for something like that. No shade but he ain't makin' the ends of his own life meet.

i know!!  he just got a job a few months ago and now he's Confucius.  charging $75/hr though...the stories of never to be seen concerts and albums wasn't gonna jive anymore so he found another way to get money out of his followers.



i wanna see some university receipts, hanging out with CEO'S, lunch everyday with the Obama's,Oprah, tons of letters after your name like
phd, EFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXY AND   ZEEEEE...GTLFOH..75.00 AN HOUR...how much does Lizzie charge?


Posted By: DiorShowGirl
Date Posted: Jul 09 2014 at 11:54pm
Originally posted by thewonderfulwa thewonderfulwa wrote:

It was her choice to remove the video that no one had to pay to view them so if it wasnt a wise decision it was hers to make.I dont understand the anger everyone on Youtube seems to be doing the same thing.


that is so true...no support at all...the videos were free and they act like they paid high and low for them and then she just ran off with their money by taking the videos down...lawdhammercy



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